The strongest boxer in human history vs A weak ass NPC

[XxZetsuxX]

Cid Kagenou vs Yu (17 years)

Rules:

• Speed is NOT equalised.
• Starting Distance: 10 meters
• Cid's Magic is restricted
• Location: A normal house
• No prep time, no prior knowledge
• Cid's AP: 9.92 KJ
• Yu's AP: 9,92 KJ

	Cid's advantages: Skill stomps Stamina LS Better ANPR and Info analysis Better AD Better PP	Shadow -
	Yu's advantages: Dura Neg Perception hax Range Speed Acrobatics	The Devil -

 

[Catbowtie]

"Skill Stomps"

 

[Huesito88]

"Skill Stomps"

Looks at both's intelligence sections (or blogs), ummmm which one?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

"Skill Stomps"

Am i wrong though?

 

[azontr]

Skill stomps is crazy

Also if speed is unequaled Yu blitzes

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Skill stomps is crazy

Am i wrong?

Also if speed is unequaled Yu blitzes

Speed is hardly a factor against Cid, he can predict blitzes and even dodge mach 1 danmaku by just walking

 

[Catbowtie]

Yea I just looked and bro who's VSB OC is this?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Yea I just looked and bro who's VSB OC is this?

 

[azontr]

Am i wrong?

Yes lol

Speed is hardly a factor against Cid, he can predict blitzes and even dodge mach 1 stuff by just walking

He's 20 m/s without using Magic, Yu is nearly 6x faster, that's an insane advantage plus his perception stuff. I'd say Yu wins based purely on this, not to mention he also gets massively faster through fights as well.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Yes lol

He's 20 m/s without using Magic, Yu is nearly 6x faster, that's an insane advantage plus his perception stuff. I'd say Yu wins based purely on this, not to mention he also gets massively faster through fights as well.

He didn't use magic when dodging mach 1 danmaku lol infact, Cid was even making milimeter dodges too

 

[azontr]

He didn't use magic when dodging mach 1 danmaku lol infact, Cid was even making milimeter dodges too

Then he should be Mach 1 in base.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Then he should be Mach 1 in base.

No, he was walking (1 m/) without magic

He was predicting their trajectories and stuff

 

[Catbowtie]

Okay so Cid cheats and pretends it's skill okay.

 

[azontr]

No, he was walking (1 m/) without magic

He was predicting their trajectories and stuff

Unfortunately not how it works, we've been over stuff like this on wiki before, you can't dodge things several dozen times faster than you with pure skill, it's just not physically possible. Either he's mach 1 or the feat is invalid.

 

[Zefra3011]

If it's Yu's first key, he ain't taking Cid down anytime soon. Yu is average in stamina, while Cid is superhuman.

All Cid really needs to do is avoid any mortal injury, which he managed to do against characters times faster than him.

Okay so Cid cheats and pretends it's skill okay.

Unfortunately not how it works, we've been over stuff like this on wiki before, you can't dodge things several dozen times faster than you with pure skill, it's just not physically possible. Either he's mach 1 or the feat is invalid.

Cid simply outpredicted the hell out of the opponents and aim-dodged lol. He has enough processing speed to account for thousands of things while he fights.

 

[Epiccheev]

Yea I just looked and bro who's VSB OC is this?

At least his skill feats mostly make sense/are within possibility of biomechanics.
Re:Zero has characters who can dodge rain in a storm,sand in a sandstorm, dodge multiple attacks from a mach 1 character while having normal human movement speed
, dodge explosions without getting out of the AOE range, keep fighting with all their senses sealed, cut concepts with sword skill, perform complex surgery on enemies mid combat. etc.

 

[azontr]

Aim-dodging is a different story, but in that sense the feat isn't particularly that impressive by being Mach 1, lol.

Stamina is a big issue tho yeah, they are similar in AP so even if they're equal in skill Yu will Tucker out first.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Aim-dodging is a different story, but in that sense the feat isn't particularly that impressive by being Mach 1, lol.

Stamina is a big issue tho yeah, they are similar in AP so even if they're equal in skill Yu will Tucker out first.

For context, here is the feat

 

[azontr]

Impressive feat, but still basically aim-dodging, the attacks being Mach 1 doesn't really make it that much more impressive.

Either way, Yu's stamina is still an issue. Even if they are equals in skill he is just a scrawny malnourished highschooler in this key who got winded dodging attacks in the first round of a boxing match. Cid really just needs to outlast him and take any hits he can't dodge.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Impressive feat, but still basically aim-dodging, the attacks being Mach 1 doesn't really make it that much more impressive.

Either way, Yu's stamina is still an issue. Even if they are equals in skill he is just a scrawny malnourished highschooler in this key who got winded dodging attacks in the first round of a boxing match. Cid really just needs to outlast him and take any hits he can't dodge.

So uh, vote for Cid? or are you gonna hold on a little bit longer and wait for more arguments?

 

[azontr]

No, is a stomp match. Is no way Yu can win, he just gets winded too fast.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

No, is a stomp match. Is no way Yu can win, he just gets winded too fast.

Should i change key to his 2nd key? Heck, it can be his last key, Cid still outlasts XD

 

[azontr]

If it's higher keys then Cid can't harm Yu and then gets his brains pasted it's just a mismatch, doesn't really work no matter what version you use.

 

[Zefra3011]

If it's a higher key and speed is equal, Cid would outlast Yu anyway, if it's considered a wincon. If not, yeah, Cid has no wincons against higher keys.

 

[azontr]

Outlasting wouldn't really work in that case cuz he'd break his fists trying to hit Yu lol

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Outlasting wouldn't really work in that case cuz he'd break his fists trying to hit Yu lol

How about this;

I make the arena different, the arena will be a colliseum-esque arena, with water filled with sharks or whatever, in case Cid does indeed outlast Yu, he can just throw him there while Yu is tired unable to move due to being tired

 

[azontr]

?????

 

[XxZetsuxX]

?????

It's a wincon for Cid if vsbattle doesn't include win via exhaustion of the opponent

 

[azontr]

I feel like if you gotta put a shark tank in the battlefield to make the match work that you just shouldn't make the match my guy.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I feel like if you gotta put a shark tank in the battlefield to make the match work that you just shouldn't make the match my guy.

It's an out of bounds wincon, which i am pretty sure it's allowed in vsbattle

 

[Epiccheev]

I make the arena different, the arena will be a colliseum-esque arena, with water filled with sharks or whatever, in case Cid does indeed outlast Yu, he can just throw him there while Yu is tired unable to move due to being tired

They both start in monster trucks with shotguns and the arena is filled with holes wich in turn are filled with vipers and eletric cables.

 

[azontr]

The point is that the match just doesn't work and it's an incredibly silly aspect you've added to it to make it so that it does work, which is dumb. To begin with Cid would not be able to outlast Yu anyways because he literally can't harm Yu without magic in his later keys. He would be hitting a brick wall and probably breaking his own fists.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

The point is that the match just doesn't work and it's an incredibly silly aspect you've added to it to make it so that it does work, which is dumb. To begin with Cid would not be able to outlast Yu anyways because he literally can't harm Yu without magic in his later keys. He would be hitting a brick wall and probably breaking his own fists.

Mhm

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

At least his skill feats mostly make sense/are within possibility of biomechanics.
Re:Zero has characters who can dodge rain in a storm,sand in a sandstorm, dodge multiple attacks from a mach 1 character while having normal human movement speed
, dodge explosions without getting out of the AOE range, keep fighting with all their senses sealed, cut concepts with sword skill, perform complex surgery on enemies mid combat. etc.

Mach 2.5+

 

[Deadguy999]

the arena will be a colliseum-esque arena, with water filled with sharks or whatever, in case Cid does indeed outlast Yu, he can just throw him there while Yu is tired unable to move due to being tired

I laughed so hard at this bruh