Baki Hanma vs Tokita Ohma (2-3-0)

[CBslayeR]

Shocked no one's done this yet.

Both are 7-C. Baki is in his last key, Ohma is in his EOS key. (Omega is apparently 88 kilotons but I don't know where it comes from, so I'm not using that key)

Fight takes place in the same arena their crossover fight did.

Speed is equal.

LS is 0.12x in Ohma's favor.

Baki scales/possibly upscales to 15.25 kilotons from a casual younger Yujiro

Ohma upscales 5.75 kilotons (likely upscales pretty hard too)


Baki Hanma: 2


Tokita Ohma: 3


T..the crossover... was right???:

 

[CBslayeR]

bump

 

[Jigoshi]

Assuming this is current Baki, he should definitely scale above that version of Yujiro.

Otherwise yeah, gonna give it to Baki. Baki should be capable of replicating anything Ohma has done. Even with equalized speed, Baki still has access to Cockroach dash and 0.5 seconds unconscious which can blitz him, and this was also shown in the crossover. He also has Kiai/Pocket hand which already makes him at a baseline faster if used.

 

[CBslayeR]

Counted, also bump

 

[CBslayeR]

bump

 

[Catbowtie]

Looking through Baki’s profile and not a SINGLE resistance to Fear Hax.

Baki continues the bloodline FRA

 

[NikHelton]

Ohma's Advance scales to 88 KT and has about 4x the speed amp. He'll use Advance as soon as he sees the difference in power and crush Baki

 

[Greatsage13th]

Ohma's Advance scales to 88 KT and has about 4x the speed amp. He'll use Advance as soon as he sees the difference in power and crush Baki

Baki can just flick him off course if Ohma decides to attack blitz him innit?

 

[CBslayeR]

Ohma's Advance scales to 88 KT and has about 4x the speed amp. He'll use Advance as soon as he sees the difference in power and crush Baki

where is the 88 KT value from its not on the verse page or any profiles

 

[NikHelton]

Baki can just flick him off course if Ohma decides to attack blitz him innit?

No, Ohma isn't becoming a linear force. His attacks constantly change trajectory, and every move he makes can lead to a Misdirection Kata, which will turn every one of Baki's attacks against him. Besides, Ohma predicts attacks just as well as Baki.

 

[NikHelton]

where is the 88 KT value from its not on the verse page or any profiles

This is obtained through multipliers. In any case, his Advance EoS forms have this value.

 

[Greatsage13th]

No, Ohma isn't becoming a linear force. His attacks constantly change trajectory, and every move he makes can lead to a Misdirection Kata, which will turn every one of Baki's attacks against him. Besides, Ohma predicts attacks just as well as Baki.

I see. But it lacks anything to defend the half a second unconsciousneas trick. Which would be an automatic blitz.

 

[NikHelton]

I see. But it lacks anything to defend the half a second unconsciousneas trick. Which would be an automatic blitz.

Instinctive Reaction + Indestructible, which blocks energy from penetrating the body.
Indestructible from a weakened Ohma was enough to save his liver from being ruptured by Wakatsuki's low kick, which scales 15 times beyond Indestructible's durability.

Besides, 0.5 seconds isn't Baki's default technique. He prefers competitive fights when his opponent is truly strong.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Instinctive Reaction + Indestructible, which blocks energy from penetrating the body.
Indestructible from a weakened Ohma was enough to save his liver from being ruptured by Wakatsuki's low kick, which scales 15 times beyond Indestructible's durability.

That's a lot.

Besides, 0.5 seconds isn't Baki's default technique. He prefers competitive fights when his opponent is truly strong.

Fair point but the thing is he's definitely going to use it against someone that much stronger than him.

 

[NikHelton]

That's a lot

Yeah, this dude is really tough.

Fair point but the thing is he's definitely going to use it against someone that much stronger than him.

However, Baki won't use this until Ohma activates Advance. Baki will also definitely use Endorphins and Devil Back before starting the 0.5 second phase. Remember his fights with Oliva and Pickle? When he sees raw power, he can't resist challenging them.

 

[NikHelton]

Voting for Ohma

 

[Greatsage13th]

Yep, gonna vote Ohma.

 

[DarthSorox]

Ohma FRA

 

[Jigoshi]

This is obtained through multipliers. In any case, his Advance EoS forms have this value.

But how would this give him a 88kt AP? He scales to 5.2 kt and his profile gives 2.5x strength increase for some reason. My main question is how are they getting these multipliers from Advance?

Instinctive Reaction + Indestructible, which blocks energy from penetrating the body.
Indestructible from a weakened Ohma was enough to save his liver from being ruptured by Wakatsuki's low kick, which scales 15 times beyond Indestructible's durability.

I don't think instinctive reactions would help against 0.5 seconds unconscious due to the fact that even Yujiro who also has instinctive reactions and near perfect analytical analysis got blitzed from it the first time around. Yujiro then countered it, but only after getting knocked out by first. Unless Ohma has prior knowledge, I don't see him countering it.

And Baki at the point Ohma is unconscious could still blitz him before he uses Indestructible.

Besides, 0.5 seconds isn't Baki's default technique. He prefers competitive fights when his opponent is truly strong.

I mean, I didn't think this would be based more on how the characters are. Kind of the same argument for people saying Saitama would win against Goku because Goku likes fighting strong opponents and would just let Saitama reach him in power.

I think Baki does like testing the waters to see how strong his opponents are, but for the sake of general matchup's, he generally tries to finish his fights more quickly.

Still voting for Baki.

 

[NikHelton]

But how would this give him a 88kt AP? He scales to 5.2 kt and his profile gives 2.5x strength increase for some reason. My main question is how are they getting these multipliers from Advance?

Wakatsuki multipliers x5 and x3

I don't think instinctive reactions would help against 0.5 seconds unconscious due to the fact that even Yujiro who also has instinctive reactions and near perfect analytical analysis got blitzed from it the first time around. Yujiro then countered it, but only after getting knocked out by first. Unless Ohma has prior knowledge, I don't see him countering it.

It would actually be more fair to use Omega Ohma, because in this vein he has a similar ability in the form of pre-initiative

And Baki at the point Ohma is unconscious could still blitz him before he uses Indestructible.


I mean, I didn't think this would be based more on how the characters are. Kind of the same argument for people saying Saitama would win against Goku because Goku likes fighting strong opponents and would just let Saitama reach him in power.

I think Baki does like testing the waters to see how strong his opponents are, but for the sake of general matchup's, he generally tries to finish his fights more quickly.

It's not Baki's nature to use all of this at once. It could backfire.

 

[Jigoshi]

Wakatsuki multipliers x5 and x3

Oh, I suppose that makes sense. Still skeptical on those multipliers though. It just seems weird that his Advance would scale him to Waka in power.

It would actually be more fair to use Omega Ohma, because in this vein he has a similar ability in the form of pre-initiative

My main point is that one of the only counters to 0.5 seconds unconscious is Ultra High Level Sen no Sen which allowed Musashi to catch onto Baki's brain signal before he threw the attack. Ohma's Sen no Sen is below that of Ultra High Level Sen no Sen.

It's not Baki's nature to use all of this at once. It could backfire.

But Baki usually does use try and go for the blitz most of the time in his fights especially against Oliva and Yujiro. I really only see this possibly backfiring if he tries using this again like in his fight with Yujiro, but if he can, he will try to end it quickly.