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Powerscalers vs Fiction part 2: Wokistan vs Judge Holden (0-3-0)

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EDP? EDP445? (Not sure what EDP refers to here, I'm just assuming from searching it up)

You probably should have included starting distance, I think Judge would take this if the distance is far enough (especially if beyond 900 metres, though Wokistan would need some distance to use acceleration and speed either way) since he might be able to sense the car coming even without sight and then use the howitzer to blow up the car (assuming Judge can aim properly even if Wokistan drives erratically).

That being said, if Judge is unable to see the car coming, and Wokistan weaponised it by using incendiary and pressurised explosive stuff, Wokistan could win then.
 
EDP? EDP445?
Yep, that one, since Holden committed those actions as well
You probably should have included starting distance, I think Judge would take this if the distance is far enough (especially if beyond 900 metres, though Wokistan would need some distance to use acceleration and speed either way) since he might be able to sense the car coming even without sight and then use the howitzer to blow up the car (assuming Judge can aim properly even if Wokistan drives erratically).
Idk which distance I should choose to make it even, so let's assume that it's closer to range of Holden's revolvers, rather than howitzer and they behind some kind of City block
That being said, if Judge is unable to see the car coming, and Wokistan weaponised it by using incendiary and pressurised explosive stuff, Wokistan could win then.
Wokistan needs to somehow survive that and tbh I think just running him over would be enough to win
 
Yep, that one, since Holden committed those actions as well

Idk which distance I should choose to make it even, so let's assume that it's closer to range of Holden's revolvers, rather than howitzer and they behind some kind of City block

Wokistan needs to somehow survive that and tbh I think just running him over would be enough to win
Wokistan could try rigging the car to drive towards Holden by using weights to press the accelerator down (maybe Wokistan could use that as a distraction to draw Holden's attention before using other weapons to ambush Holden, but unsure), I doubt jumping out of a moving vehicle is a good move.
 
So, who would win in your opinion more often than not and how reliable are Wokistan's wincons?
 
Also here's a thing - all equipment and prep time are two different modifiers. So Wokistan have to come up with a plan before Holden finds him or try to win some time by hiding
 
Blame the wheels, not me

Rules:
  • No line of sight for anyone in open area
  • Wokistan have all equipment (including his car)
  • Judge Holden have all weapons and possible abilities
  • Speed is not equalized
  • Battle theme is this
Wokistan runs over EDP's ancestor:

Judge Holden throws a hecking howitzer:

I'll remove that matchup if it makes everyone too uneasy (incon):
I think unfortunately I may have to vote Judge Holden winning/Wokistan losing due to Judge's howitzer outclassing most stuff Wokistan has in terms of damage and range (and also being capable of destroying Wokistan's car which is probably the best equipment Wokistan has).
 
While Howitzer is OP, I'd say that Wokistan have pretty decent chance at speedblitzing Holden with his car. First of all - currently Holden lacks enhanced senses, so he could potentially be caught off guard by car running at him at full speed outside of his FOW and that most likely would be enough to completely incapacitate him (since car crashes could be scaled above baseline Wall level, while Holden currently scales to Street level skull crushing). Second of all - Wokistan might have some advanced GPS system downloaded on his car (depending on it's model), that tracks not only destination, but other cars and pedestrians, so he potentially could find Judge Holden a bit faster than he does

And no, that's not a vote for anyone, since it's up to you, to consider those advantages as sufficient or not
 
While Howitzer is OP, I'd say that Wokistan have pretty decent chance at speedblitzing Holden with his car. First of all - currently Holden lacks enhanced senses, so he could potentially be caught off guard by car running at him at full speed outside of his FOW and that most likely would be enough to completely incapacitate him (since car crashes could be scaled above baseline Wall level, while Holden currently scales to Street level skull crushing). Second of all - Wokistan might have some advanced GPS system downloaded on his car (depending on it's model), that tracks not only destination, but other cars and pedestrians, so he potentially could find Judge Holden a bit faster than he does

And no, that's not a vote for anyone, since it's up to you, to consider those advantages as sufficient or not
That's true but again, depends a lot on distance, even if Wokistan can detect Holden faster, Wokistan cannot affect Holden faster than Holden can affect Wokistan (due to range differences, I'm unsure Wokistan could cover the distance with the car before Holden can fire the howitzer) if assuming they both went for open assault, and range still also makes it difficult for ambush capacity for Wokistan since Holden can deploy the howitzer and revolvers faster and can attack from a longer range than Wokistan can with the car or other equipment.
Idk which distance I should choose to make it even, so let's assume that it's closer to range of Holden's revolvers, rather than howitzer and they behind some kind of City block
Wokistan would still need time to accelerate the car to a high enough speed to hit Holden, but by that point the noise would very likely alert Holden before Wokistan has built up enough speed OR covered the necessary distance (unless we're assuming the car is freaking rocket-propelled or jet-propelled or is a general supercar like that of F1 and NASCAR race cars or popularly known extremely fast cars, and even then it'd take a bit of time to go from a complete stop to full speed, so we'd also need to assume the car is capable of extremely high/fast acceleration, which would also make it challenging to rig to aim for Holden without, and that's all assuming Wokistan even OWNS a car like that or is able to modify a car or other weapons and vehicles to cover the distance faster and more accurately AND with more power, all at the same time, than Holden's howitzer and revolvers can).

At this point Wokistan's best bet is either the car or being able to build a light gas gun or other means of using pressurised stuff to accelerate flammable, sharp and/or blunt stuff towards Holden faster than Holden can with the howitzer and revolvers, but again, unlikely that Wokistan's car is actually in the same league as extremely-high-speed-and-acceleration vehicles or that Wokistan can build and operate such means without alerting Holden or before Holden is alerted.

Also I'm not sure if a city block is open enough to be considered an open area... (We need to confirm how open an "open area" needs to be, either it's open in all dimensions from all angles (like a wide open field with minimal cover and concealment) or it's only open from certain angles (like streets lined with buildings.)

Both sides would also likely give away their positions early even without line of sight (it'd be quite hard to conceal the howitzer and car visibly).

(I'm still not sure how there's no line of sight in an open area, since the open area would also mean that they'd more easily spot each other, unless you mean that they aren't initially aware of each other's positions visually from the start, and even then it'd take a relatively short time for either side to see each other after the match begins, again as mentioned more clarification is necessary on what "no line of sight in open area" means).
 
Also I'm not sure if a city block is open enough to be considered an open area... (We need to confirm how open an "open area" needs to be, either it's open in all dimensions from all angles (like a wide open field with minimal cover and concealment) or it's only open from certain angles (like streets lined with buildings.)
Basically open area means any locations that takes place outdoors and it could have some obstacles, if it's without line of sight (basically battle takes place near City-block, so they can be on opposite sides of it without concrete information of their opponents location, so they need to find each other by themselves). The only exception I can thing of currently is some sort of gateway, since it just a very narrow hall, but on the streets, so any area that have some space in it and doesn't take place inside a building, doesn't limited by fences and other barriers would count as "Open area"
(I'm still not sure how there's no line of sight in an open area, since the open area would also mean that they'd more easily spot each other, unless you mean that they aren't initially aware of each other's positions visually from the start, and even then it'd take a relatively short time for either side to see each other after the match begins, again as mentioned more clarification is necessary on what "no line of sight in open area" means).
Yep, they are visually unaware of location of their opponent in "no line of sight" modifiers, also if it's in open area - it could have more obstacles and hiding spots than if it was with line of sight from the get go. My matchup with Patrick Bateman is pretty much straightforward example of "No line of sight in open area", battle took place in some random park, distance is too long to see each other from the start, trees and benches could be used as hiding spots and block the view, opponents could start from opposite ends of this location or in completely random directions, but most importantly - there still a lot of free place, so it could qualify as "open area"
 
Also this matchup is good example of "No line of sight in open area", but most likely I won't do matchups with such huge starting distances
 
Basically open area means any locations that takes place outdoors and it could have some obstacles, if it's without line of sight (basically battle takes place near City-block, so they can be on opposite sides of it without concrete information of their opponents location, so they need to find each other by themselves). The only exception I can thing of currently is some sort of gateway, since it just a very narrow hall, but on the streets, so any area that have some space in it and doesn't take place inside a building, doesn't limited by fences and other barriers would count as "Open area"

Yep, they are visually unaware of location of their opponent in "no line of sight" modifiers, also if it's in open area - it could have more obstacles and hiding spots than if it was with line of sight from the get go. My matchup with Patrick Bateman is pretty much straightforward example of "No line of sight in open area", battle took place in some random park, distance is too long to see each other from the start, trees and benches could be used as hiding spots and block the view, opponents could start from opposite ends of this location or in completely random directions, but most importantly - there still a lot of free place, so it could qualify as "open area"
In that case, yeah I think Holden would still have an easier time attacking Wokistan than Wokistan attacking Holden even if both of them have advantages in terms of finding each other (admittedly it'd be hard to conceal either of Holden's or Wokistan's stuff so I'd assume that that sort of advantage is near negligible), due to the howitzer being capable of both indirect and direct fire at a longer range than any of Wokistan's equipment, and if there's obstacles it'd also limit Wokistan's ability to utilise the car (which is Wokistan's possibly strongest equipment) and even if Wokistan could design a vehicle or weapon capable of the same abilities as the howitzer it'd require far more time for Wokistan to design and operate such stuff than for Holden to aim and fire his already existing howitzer.
 
So it's currently 1 win for powerscalers and 1 win for fiction
 
Bruh, my imgur account broke for some reason, sorry for matchups taking so long
 
What on earth
 
Wokistan is a 5”7, woke and a magic the gathering player. He gets ****** up.
 
Why did the forum censor the f word but not magic the gathering, hmm? Curious.
 
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