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Kaneki vs Garou (0-0-0)

Anyways on with the match, this is going to be epic.
Kaneki's RE is basically "get stronger" while Garou's is "get stronger + resist ur shit." As such, Kaneki has to kill Garou in one ability if he wants to do such damage.
PD Kaneki has some busted regen that I don't think Garou even has the answer to. Now unless garou can paste Kaneki somehow (in which I doubt), Garou has no good way to surmount that regen. I don't think Garou can do FORQRA by this time, which would have been a solid wincon for Garou.
Garou ain't anything to scoff at either. Garou has goated willpower, which will make Kaneki want to try harder. But of course.. theres the RE.
I'm going with Incon. Garou has no good way to surmount Kaneki's regen while Kaneki has no good way to surmount Garou's goated RE.
Incon, they'll fight forever I guess.
 
I'd like to finish Kaneki's other matches before jumping into this one, but it'll be a heated one.
Kaneki has a different attack pattern, so Garou has to adapt to it. For example, if Kaneki copies Touka's electricity or Tatara's fire, it will be useless against Garou, but slashing attacks are still useful. Regen neg will be useful against Garou in the first part of the fight, but will lose its effectiveness after a short period of time.
Kaneki's LS will give him an advantage in frontal attacks early on, but Garou's LS grows to astronomical levels over time.
Kaneki's Kagune is his main asset, because, as we saw in the battle with Orochi, Garou is vulnerable to formless attacks. Kaneki's Kagune can also develop numerous teeth, which will bite off chunks of flesh from Garou when he parries, replenishing his stamina. The AOE attack turns the enemy who just tore Kaneki apart into a pool of blood.

But to be fair, some Garou techniques can cut and tear apart an enemy from the inside, which will eventually deplete Kaneki's regeneration.

I won't vote for now, but I'm also leaning toward incon.
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
What are the stamina feats looking like for both sides?
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Kaneki: Can fight even after days of being tortured. Can fight with broken bones and all that sort of thing.
Garou: Can survive an ass whooping from saitama. Regularly says no to death. Regularly just gets up from being KOed cold and fights people.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Kaneki: Can fight even after days of being tortured. Can fight with broken bones and all that sort of thing.
Garou: Can survive an ass whooping from saitama. Regularly says no to death. Regularly just gets up from being KOed cold and fights people.
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garou outlasts?

kaneki would just steal garous blood to gain stamina while garou does the same

Incon FRA ig
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
What are the stamina feats looking like for both sides?
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Garou, awakened from his near-death state, immediately enters combat and is subjected to extreme thermal effects. He then receives a large stab wound to the abdomen and is severely beaten, after which he loses consciousness. To be fair, he was knocked out by a High 6-A fighter. After lying unconscious for a couple of hours, he engages Darkshine, who crushes his ribcage. Garou's RE begins to work, leveling his AP stats, but loses consciousness from his injuries. Garou had lost an insane amount of blood and had no extra energy to recover.

Kaneki awakens from his coma, after the Dragon gradually dissolved him within itself, and engages Furuta, where he endures multiple beatings, being torn apart from the inside, his throat slit, and broken bones, all with the help of his kagune, which suppresses regeneration. After this, his RE activates and he one-shots the enemy. Afterward, he battles the Dragon for an unknown amount of time, his body is completely chewed up, which is further enhanced by the regen neg effect, leaving him recovered and exhausted. All of this took place overnight. Generally, an ordinary investigator is capable of exerting himself at his maximum for several hours.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
I don't think Garou can do FORQRA by this time, which would have been a solid wincon for Garou.
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This Garou is capable of using it via evolving. (Basically the only requirement is to be able to use both techniques at the same time. He achieves it in this form)
 
I don’t know why my Goat Garou has 10 wins 4 losses 6 incons on his profile meanwhile b*tch *ss Deku has 21 wins no losses no inconclusive matches
 
KNY is a comparatively underrepresented verses like OPM and really for most of the notable verses on this wiki. It’s one of the main reasons I rep KNY in the first place. If KNY had someone like Kachon or Kingofwolves then my *ss would’ve been glazing Gojo and Garou
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Because its the biggest mismatch in existence. None of Deku's wincons will let the matchup get added onto profiles because Deku is reverse blitzing Garou under speed equalization despite Garou being the faster one
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Garou's acceleration is quite powerful, and his technique will make Fa Jin look like a bad joke. By the way, as far as I know, if character A is initially slower than character B, but their speeds are equalized, then character A cannot use blitz amp as a wincon.
 
Catbowtie said:
KNY is a comparatively underrepresented verses like OPM and really for most of the notable verses on this wiki. It’s one of the main reasons I rep KNY in the first place. If KNY had someone like Kachon or Kingofwolves then my *ss would’ve been glazing Gojo and Garou
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I don't know, dude. You have a pretty big gang. It's pretty hard for me to host TG matches because a significant portion of the supporters are constantly busy and can't actively participate.
 
NikHelton said:
Garou's acceleration is quite powerful, and his technique will make Fa Jin look like a bad joke. By the way, as far as I know, if character A is initially slower than character B, but their speeds are equalized, then character A cannot use blitz amp as a wincon.
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They can. Its just that it wont get added onto profiles. Also the only possible way for this match to work is if Deku starts at 45% 42 Petatons and Garou starts at 42 Petatons. Which would lead to a mismatch because Deku would just blitz a faster character.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
They can. Its just that it wont get added onto profiles. Also the only possible way for this match to work is if Deku starts at 45% 42 Petatons and Garou starts at 42 Petatons. Which would lead to a mismatch because Deku would just blitz a faster character.
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Garou has already survived brutal attacks from stronger characters. He simply gets stronger and wins. The MHA heretics have led you to believe too much in the Deku heresy. Cleanse your mind of the filth and stand for Garou, the God of Humanity.
 
NikHelton said:
Garou has already survived brutal attacks from stronger characters. He simply gets stronger and wins. The MHA heretics have led you to believe too much in the Deku heresy. Cleanse your mind of the filth and stand for Garou, the God of Humanity.
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Ignoring how Deku's soul hax that can kill someone with 3 different types of soul resistances, If 45% Deku and Garou both start off at 42 Petatons, theres legit the scenario of Deku just quickly going 100%+Gearshift+Faux 100% and one shotting him with a value that massively upscales 12.71 exatons since he can one shot Shigaraki's Mid Regen leaving nothing left anytime he wanted to even while crippled.

Even all of that, that win cannot even be added to profiles since Deku is blitzing Garou who is faster
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Ignoring how Deku's soul hax that can kill someone with 3 different types of soul resistances, If 45% Deku and Garou both start off at 42 Petatons, theres legit the scenario of Deku just quickly going 100%+Gearshift+Faux 100% and one shotting him with a value that massively upscales 12.71 exatons since he can one shot Shigaraki's Mid Regen leaving nothing left anytime he wanted to even while crippled.

Even all of that, that win cannot even be added to profiles since Deku is blitzing Garou who is faster
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What if they both start with a value in exatons?
 
NikHelton said:
Garou, awakened from his near-death state, immediately enters combat and is subjected to extreme thermal effects. He then receives a large stab wound to the abdomen and is severely beaten, after which he loses consciousness. To be fair, he was knocked out by a High 6-A fighter. After lying unconscious for a couple of hours, he engages Darkshine, who crushes his ribcage. Garou's RE begins to work, leveling his AP stats, but loses consciousness from his injuries. Garou had lost an insane amount of blood and had no extra energy to recover.

Kaneki awakens from his coma, after the Dragon gradually dissolved him within itself, and engages Furuta, where he endures multiple beatings, being torn apart from the inside, his throat slit, and broken bones, all with the help of his kagune, which suppresses regeneration. After this, his RE activates and he one-shots the enemy. Afterward, he battles the Dragon for an unknown amount of time, his body is completely chewed up, which is further enhanced by the regen neg effect, leaving him recovered and exhausted. All of this took place overnight. Generally, an ordinary investigator is capable of exerting himself at his maximum for several hours.
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So basically no clear advantages...

yeah incon makes the most sense here
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Deku gets obliterated with no win cons. This match already happened almost a year ago with an even closer value 😭
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Garou has a speed advantage and simply withstands this attack. Afterwards, his speed stat increases even more, and he evens out his speed every time Deku slows him down.

You've heard too much nonsense, my friend.
 
NikHelton said:
Garou has a speed advantage and simply withstands this attack. Afterwards, his speed stat increases even more, and he evens out his speed every time Deku slows him down.

You've heard too much nonsense, my friend.
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Buddy i just said Deku gets obliterated with no win cons if they both start out in exatons.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Buddy i just said Deku gets obliterated with no win cons if they both start out in exatons.
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Sorry, my translator misinterpreted that.

Why wasn't this match added? All of Deku's wins are dead heat. Characters don't have time to play their trump cards and abilities and are immediately destroyed.
The fact that all of Deku's losses are recorded as stomp seems like a double standard.
 
NikHelton said:
Sorry, my translator misinterpreted that.

Why wasn't this match added? All of Deku's wins are dead heat. Characters don't have time to play their trump cards and abilities and are immediately destroyed.
The fact that all of Deku's losses are recorded as stomp seems like a double standard.
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ngl I still have no idea why the obito thread was added when that was a clear stomp in obitos favor

also MHA has a really big fandom and loves to see their fav character blitz other 6A characters cause funni
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
So basically no clear advantages...

yeah incon makes the most sense here
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In fact, Kaneki seems a bit more remarkable, considering he was poisoned throughout the events but was still able to fight, while Garou lost consciousness after his fight with Darkshine.
 
NikHelton said:
Sorry, my translator misinterpreted that.

Why wasn't this match added? All of Deku's wins are dead heat. Characters don't have time to play their trump cards and abilities and are immediately destroyed.
The fact that all of Deku's losses are recorded as stomp seems like a double standard.
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Multiple reasons.
1. The only time you can argue Blitz stomp is if its Final War Arc 100% Deku since thats the Deku who uses Gearshift
2. Multiple of the Deku matchups were created by me and every single matchups were created via characters who can counter his blitz
3. Multiple matchups where Deku actually blitz stomps doesnt even get added in the first place.
4. I defended all the Deku matchups that were accused of blitz stomps and prevented them from being deleted
 
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Deku almost losing to Tanjiro has to be the greatest Deku match

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Tanjiro Kamado Vs Izuku Midoriya (Deku) (Demon Slayer Vs MHA) [11-19-5]

Tanjiro Kamado Vs Izuku Midoriya Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro will be used Attack Potency: 2.93 Megatons Durability: 2.93 Megatons Lifting Strength: Class K Dark Hero Arc 30% Deku will be used Attack Potency: 2.15 Megatons, 10.75 Megatons with Fa Jin Durability: 2.15 Megatons Lifting Strength...
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MrTayman616 said:
Garou didn't lose it because of Darkshine, it was an effect of monsterization. (It's not a lack of stamina case)
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Do you have proof of this? His metamorphoses often occur when he's unconscious. Garou was gaining momentum during the battle with Darkshine, but the accumulated wounds took their toll. Although it's also possible that he lost consciousness because he stopped fighting. Something similar happened with Metall Bat when he stopped fighting Garou and his Fighting Spirit stopped keeping him upright.
 
NikHelton said:
However, from what I've read, all the arguments are based on blitz+oneshot
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It's more-so...
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