Regarding Non-Physical Interaction and Intangibility/Incorporeality

[Sir_Ovens]

So the question posed: Does having Non-Physical Interaction, but only feats that would qualify for only one type of Intangibility, grant Non-Physical Interaction towards other types of intangibility as a default? Or do you need showings of interacting with those types of Intangibility for that argument to be made?

It's generally regarded that you'd have to show that you can interact with a certain level of intangiblity to get the corresponding NPI. However, that is also case by case. Cause if you want to scrutinise this to its extreme then you could say someone who could grab the air like it was solid wouldn't be able to do the same with water. Logically that makes sense, but if mechanically, the person grabbing the air is doing so because he manipulates density, then it can be assumed he can do so to interact with any fluid material.

Ultimately it comes down to reading the context and coming to our own conclusions. This is too broad a spectrum to have any specific hierarchy we could slap onto it.

This is why I'm still confused as to why this thread was even made. What was it trying to achieve? It is already widely accepted that you need the corresponding NPI to interact with a specific type of intangiblity. So why even ask the question?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It's generally regarded that you'd have to show that you can interact with a certain level of intangiblity to get the corresponding NPI. However, that is also case by case. Cause if you want to scrutinise this to its extreme then you could say someone who could grab the air like it was solid wouldn't be able to do the same with water. Logically that makes sense, but if mechanically, the person grabbing the air is doing so because he manipulates density, then it can be assumed he can do so to interact with any fluid material.

Its apparently not generally regarded like that seeing as several people on this thread have thought the opposite, hence why this thread was made in the first place. Im aware that it works like this, im just trying to get it put onto the pages that it works like this. And possibly adding a type of intangibility between elemental and immaterial for less tangible elements.

Ultimately it comes down to reading the context and coming to our own conclusions. This is too broad a spectrum to have any specific hierarchy we could slap onto it.

Its less about establishing a hierarchy and more about putting a rule/clarification in place on the pages that a hierarchy would not exist by default unless sown otherwise.

This is why I'm still confused as to why this thread was even made. What was it trying to achieve? It is already widely accepted that you need the corresponding NPI to interact with a specific type of intangiblity. So why even ask the question?

It...wasnt. Phoenks was arguing the exact opposite, they were arguing for a hierarchy-based NPI system.

 

[Vietthai96]

Should i move this to CRT section?, at this point, the thread is a psuedo-CRT than simply a Q&A thread, from what i'm seeing, the original question was mostly answered and everyone start steering the suppose Q&A into a completely different direction, there was even some suggestion at adding note to the NPI page or something, which is content revision territory

 

[Damage3245]

A fresh thread being created as a CRT with a structured propsoal is probably better than moving this thread.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Should i move this to CRT section?, at this point, the thread is a psuedo-CRT than simply a Q&A thread, from what i'm seeing, the original question was mostly answered and everyone start steering the suppose Q&A into a completely different direction, there was even some suggestion at adding note to the NPI page or something, which is content revision territory

That works yeah

 

[Vietthai96]

A fresh thread being created as a CRT with a structured propsoal is probably better than moving this thread.

Probably a new thread is better, yes, also it should be staff thread since it involve standard

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That works too

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Regarding Non-Physical Interaction and Intangibility/Incorporeality Part 2

Continued from here as a staff thread as per request. As discussed in the previous thread, there is an apparent issue with the intangibility/incorporeality and non-physical interaction pages, that being an assumption that there is a hierarchy of non-physical interaction and that interacting...

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Sorry this took so long to make lol

 

[Vietthai96]

if no one have problem I will close this thread since the question was mostly answered

Edit: Closing

Edit 2: Any normal members except Weekly who want to participate in the staff thread, please remember to ask for permission from staff