Dandadan Discussion Thread

[Second22]

Unless the all out "attack" is stated to have a 100kmph cap, your argument doesn't matter. And like I said Statements << Feats.

Also Okarun launching out of wires is a faster attack anyway. Thus breaking that 100kmph limit,

When did I ever talk about statements and feats being related to combat speed or travel speed? I was only giving my opinion on the part I disagreed with, and I didn’t bring up anything else at all.

Still just out of wires, his base still 100 km/hr

 

[Second22]

Look at the debate below, Okarun constantly denies (or teases) that 100km/h is too slow to travel like that.

Tubro Granny was simply angry because Okarun teased her speed, she was just angry because he said that but did not deny whether Okarun's words were right or wrong.

Dude, what are you even trying to say? Like fr, I don’t get what you mean.

 

[Optimus.negz]

Bro ?

 

[Optimus.negz]

Dude, what are you even trying to say? Like fr, I don’t get what you mean.

Okarun himself claims that 100km/h is too slow for telephone lines (which should be around the SOL)

 

[Second22]

Okarun himself claims that 100km/h is too slow for telephone lines (which should be around the SOL)

It’s slow, so what? That’s the clearly stated speed. Turbo Granny couldn’t even keep up with a 120 km/h train if it didn’t slow down. It’s not just some random statement, the author was simply pointing out that 100 km/h is slow. Like, he doesn’t even care.

 

[GodEarh206]

Turbo Granny couldn’t even keep up with a 120 km/h train if it didn’t slow down.

I just want to say that, travel speed 100km/h is obviously lower than 120km/h

Dude, what are you even trying to say? Like fr, I don’t get what you mean.

Even if it was explicitly stated, it was just Turbo pointing out that she could move anywhere at that speed, not that she was claiming that she "could only" move at that speed, the most prominent example of which is Kizaru with his SoL.

 

[Second22]

Even if it was explicitly stated, it was just Turbo pointing out that she could move anywhere at that speed, not that she was claiming that she "could only" move at that speed, the most prominent example of which is Kizaru with his SoL.

Except that’s not how the statement was framed. It wasn’t just ‘she can move at that speed,’ it was literally given as her speed. If the intent was to show she could move freely and not be capped by that number, the author wouldn’t have set a specific figure in the first place. Comparing it to Kizaru isn’t the same either, since his SoL depiction is fundamentally different from a character being outright stated to move at 100 km/h.

 

[57Dev]

No one is arguing about the running speed. Punching, kicking, dodging and jumping isn't running.

Fastest real life ball throw is 242 kmph. Fastest real life kick at is 218 kmph verified while there are much higher claims like Ronnie Huberson's 210 mph (338 km/h) strike unverified.

That doesn't mean these guys can run at that speed.

 

[Second22]

No one is arguing about the running speed. Punching, kicking, dodging and jumping isn't running.

Fastest real life ball throw is 242 kmph. Fastest real life kick at is 218 kmph verified while there are much higher claims like Ronnie Huberson's 210 mph (338 km/h) strike unverified.

That doesn't mean these guys can run at that speed.

Again, it’s not just running speed. It’s literally a move he uses in fights, Okarun straight-up launches himself at enemies with crazy speed. He doesn’t even use it for running. And he can only go All-Out (100 km/h) like 2–3 times before he’s drained. You’re basically saying he can casually move hundreds or even thousands of times faster without burning out? That makes zero sense, dude.

 

[Second22]

I’m cool w/ Feat > statement talk now, but saying his combat/reaction speed is over 100 km/h? Nah, no way. I 100% don’t buy that.

 

[57Dev]

So you are cool with Feats being above statments, but still against Okarun being above 100 kmph despite the feats proving so

What the **** are you even saying anymore.

Alright. Okarun gets to stay at 100 kmph. There is no rule for everyone else in verse who scales to Evil eye.

 

[57Dev]

I’m cool w/ Feat > statement talk now, but saying his combat/reaction speed is over 100 km/h? Nah, no way. I 100% don’t buy that.

So his reaction and combat speed are less than Real life humans.

Sure.

 

[Second22]

So you are cool with Feats being above statments, but still against Okarun being above 100 kmph despite the feats proving so

What the **** are you even saying anymore.

Alright. Okarun gets to stay at 100 kmph. There is no rule for everyone else in verse who scales to Evil eye.

Please understand that it’s a different matter. I think you misunderstood what I meant. I’m fine with saying feat > statement, but claiming that combat speed or reaction speed is over 100 km/hr while still keeping travel speed at just 100 km/hr doesn’t make sense. If we’re going with feat > statement, then the 100 km/hr should just be discarded entirely.

 

[57Dev]

Please understand that it’s a different matter. I think you misunderstood what I meant. I’m fine with saying feat > statement, but claiming that combat speed or reaction speed is over 100 km/hr while still keeping travel speed at just 100 km/hr doesn’t make sense. If we’re going with feat > statement, then the 100 km/hr should just be discarded entirely.

Yes it should be. I am just putting this out as a alternative incase we can't.

And it makes complete sense. I just gave you real life examples. Kicks and Throws above 200 kmph by real humans who can't even run faster that 30 kmph. Okarun's primary method of attacking is ramming into opponents but he also has various other attacks. And a lot of them leave after images which requires 200 mph minimum .

 

[57Dev]

Why is the website so slow at loading today

 

[57Dev]

Today's episode was absolutely cinema. Yeah up until now Dandadan takes best animation for this year. Only competition I see ahead is MHA and Spy x family.

Also a Lightning blocking feat, lightning dodging feat and Evil Eye throwing a bag very far very fast.

Most character are seen hurting and knocking the Kaiju. So they may scales to great kinta calcs.

 

[Second22]

Most character are seen hurting and knocking the Kaiju. So they may scales to great kinta calcs.

I already made a CRT before, but it got rejected.

 

[Second22]

And also, about Vamola’s lightning attack, should it even count? Because it only appears in the anime, and as far as I remember, there’s no such feat in the manga.

 

[Buraqibear]

Statements << Feats.

Good luck trying to get that accepted on this wiki

 

[57Dev]

Good luck trying to get that accepted on this wiki

Actually that's the rule here. I have been around for a while. Only a few exceptions where this doesn't apply life gaming characters.

 

[57Dev]

And also, about Vamola’s lightning attack, should it even count? Because it only appears in the anime, and as far as I remember, there’s no such feat in the manga.

Well if the anime adds a lot of stuff we can simply make two profiles.

 

[Second22]

Well if the anime adds a lot of stuff we can simply make two profiles.

Bro, the manga profile ain’t even close to done yet and you already talking about making an anime one too?

 

[57Dev]

Bro, the manga profile ain’t even close to done yet and you already talking about making an anime one too?

Later later. Its would much easier to that since most of it will be just the copy of the Manga profile.

 

[57Dev]

Small itsy bitsy chance that a potential timeskip maybe incoming. We will know it's just theory next chapter.

 

[AmonInChains]

Full of hair fight (Dandadan vs JJBA)

AIRA SHIRATORI vs YUKAKO YAMAGISHI Both starts in base, but can access to their strongest values along the fight. Aira scales to 0.05 Tons up to 0.33 Tons, 758 Metric Tons & 22.22 m/s. Yukako scales to 71.93 m/s reactions & 94.422 kiloJoules for Durability. Love Deluxe scales to 0.588 MegaJoules...

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[Second22]

Dandadan Season 2 has ended, and here are my brief thoughts:

• Aira and Evil Eye scaling with Vamola – In previous discussions, their feats were considered outliers, but in the anime it’s clearly shown that they can scale to her level. Multiple scenes support this.
• Great Kinta’s stats – He’s listed at 40 meters tall and 35,000 tons in weight. This directly affects the lifting strength scaling for Vamola, and by extension Aira, Evil Eye, and others.
• Speed feats vs. statements – Several anime scenes display speeds well above 100 km/h, such as dodging lightning, or Great Kinta running and throwing Vamola. These can be used to support “feat > statement” discussions, though detailed analysis is still needed.
• Anime and manga consistency – Should they be treated as one canon? Personally, I don’t think it’s necessary to separate them. The anime mostly adds supplementary detail and doesn’t contradict the manga, so treating them together works fine.

I think these are the main big points worth discussing.

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Anime and manga consistency – Should they be treated as one canon? Personally, I don’t think it’s necessary to separate them. The anime mostly adds supplementary detail and doesn’t contradict the manga, so treating them together works fine.

Any author statements on the anime? That usually seems mandatory for merging anime stuff with manga.

 

[Second22]

Any author statements on the anime? That usually seems mandatory for merging anime stuff with manga.

Yukinobu Tatsu is an active part of the anime series creation, as co-director.

 

[57Dev]

Latest chapter. I so ******* mad right now.

Spoiler: SPOLIER

Momo got amnesia and reset to her chapter 1 self. So she doesn't remember Okarun and the gang other than Jiji who she remembers from childhood.

I swear if this leads to some bs love triangle with Zuma (because in Chapter one she was looking for a BF and Zuma is her type) I will crash out.

 

[Second22]

Latest chapter. I so ******* mad right now.

Spoiler: SPOLIER

Momo got amnesia and reset to her chapter 1 self. So she doesn't remember Okarun and the gang other than Jiji who she remembers from childhood.

I swear if this leads to some bs love triangle with Zuma (because in Chapter one she was looking for a BF and Zuma is her type) I will crash out.

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

New chapter, pretty intriguing stuff going on.

Spoiler: Chapter 211

Mostly focused on St. Germain and his plans. Alien lady getting given a paper crane was really sweet. What the **** is the “Sorcerers Association”?

The Ultimate Yokai will be a transcendental ascendant being that our protagonists beat but we’ll still be capped at 100km/h

 

[Second22]

Dandadan Daizukan​

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Human​

Spoiler: Momo

Spoiler: Okarun

Spoiler: Aira

Spoiler: Jiji/Evil Eye

Spoiler: Vamola

Spoiler: Kinta

Spoiler: Rin

Spoiler: Zuma

Spoiler: Seiko

Spoiler: Koki

Spoiler: Manjiro

Spoiler: Masamichi Vega

 

[Second22]

Part 2​

Mysterious​

Spoiler: Turbo Cat

Spoiler: Serpo Rokuro

Spoiler: Mr. Mantis Shrimp

Spoiler: Chiquitita

Spoiler: Taro and Hana

Spoiler: Mai Kawabanga

Spoiler: Reiko

Spoiler: Banga

Spoiler: Pygmy

Spoiler: Count Saint-Germain

 

[Second22]

Part 3​

Occult​

Spoiler: Turbo Granny

Spoiler: Serpo

Spoiler: Flatwoods Monster

Spoiler: Earthbound Spirit Crab

Spoiler: Ghost and Mandrill Alien

Spoiler: Acrobatic Silky

Spoiler: Nessie

Spoiler: Dover Demon

Spoiler: Mannequin and Tsuchinoko

Spoiler: Mongolian Death Worm

Spoiler: Night Walker

Spoiler: Evil Eye

Spoiler: Music Room Portraits

 

[Second22]

Part 4​

Spoiler: Space Monster Bamola

Spoiler: Reiko Kashima 2

Spoiler: Head Exosuit Kur

Spoiler: Hastur, Ta Komeshi and Ta Koshin Jo

Spoiler: Ta kowasa, Su dako and Imo taka

Spoiler: Jet Booster Exosuit Kur, Ta koshin jyo

Spoiler: Mantis Exosuit Kur

Spoiler: Big mama and Sumer

Spoiler: This Man

Spoiler: Great Kinta

Spoiler: Shining School Building and Ninomiya

Spoiler: Onbusuman

Spoiler: Carmine and Bongo

Spoiler: Sutinas

Spoiler: Fairy-Tale Card

Spoiler: Umbreboy

Spoiler: Count Saint-Germain 2

Spoiler: Dwarf

 

[57Dev]

That is a TON of info

 

[57Dev]

So I tried reading profile with Google translate. Most of it is what we already know

One little thing about the Kur, there is a Mention of a Anti gravity canon. Could be intresting

 

[Second22]

The author made the side characters’ heights super clear but never said a thing about the main character’s.

 

[Optimus.negz]

The author made the side characters’ heights super clear but never said a thing about the main character’s.

Yes, it's quite boring.

 

[Second22]

Dandadan - 8-B and some 8-A Main Character Update

New Calculation https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Second22/Dandadan:_Tsuchinoko_Creates_an_Earthquake Sandbox https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Second22/Dandadan:_New_Status_Blog Vote Agree: Arceus0x, Dalesean027, Sir_Ovens, Gonzalo Disagree:

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I don’t think 8-A Okarun and the others work anymore, since Dover Demon’s 24× form doesn’t boost durability, if anything, it actually drops it.