• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Reality Quest CRT (New Profiles, Abilities and Feats) *Accepted*

" In Chapter 166, Dowan got hit by a lightning strike and absorbed it's power using Indomitable Will. According to lighting feats a bolt of lightning is 1.6 billion joules and according to these threads cloud to ground lightning is at least half. So, Dowan's durability is: At least 800 Megajoules or 0.191 Tons (Small Building Level+) "

lets not do this. lightning isnt some energy ball that only goes into you if it hits you, lightning current splits among multiple paths , greatly dicipating the force. its how humans survive getting struck themselves .lightning only lasts 30–100 microseconds per pulse which isnt ANYWHERE near enough time to deliver total force.
Dowan wasn’t just standing near the lightning, he was actually touching the tree that got hit, which means the electricity would’ve gone straight through him on its way to the ground.

This isn’t like getting hit by the shockwave or being nearby it’s direct contact, so it makes sense to assume he took in a large portion of the energy, probably around 80–90%
 
Last edited:
Dowan wasn’t just standing near the lightning, he was actually touching the tree that got hit, which means the electricity would’ve gone straight through him on its way to the ground.

This isn’t like getting hit by the shockwave or being nearby it’s direct contact, so it makes sense to assume he took in a large portion of the energy, probably around 80–90%
thats not how it works. please look into the science of how irl people survive lightning strikes. touching the tree makes the damage he took FARRRRR less. its a nothing burger feat
 
thats not how it works. please look into the science of how irl people survive lightning strikes. touching the tree makes the damage he took FARRRRR less. its a nothing burger feat
That's just false; touching the tree during the strike provides the electricity with an alternative route to travel, which is much more dangerous than regular cases of this accident happening.

Reading a few articles online, notably this one, it is clear that this is a case of a Contact Injury type of incident. While it is absolutely not the most dangerous type of strike, it is also not as "safe" as a Ground current strike, which has the highest survival rate out of all types of lightning strike accidents.

Still, my point stands: If the entire CRT is held back by the presence of a feat that requires further research, remove it and have someone calculate it properly if anyone would like
 
Last edited:
Dowan attacks while synchronized broke/dislocated Bujin arm while previously they did not reach that level of power at all. Martial arts also do inherently increase the power output of someone by virtue of allowing the body to move in a more destructive manner (Throw a punch normally vs a Punch with technical correction from a martial point, there is a clear difference). Durability sure its a maybe but both Speed and AP are directly increased by the fact the fight itself went from a fairly difficult fight to him being ragdolled around.
 
You’ve got to be in complete denial to think AP wasn’t affected via Sunjae’s earrings. I don’t see how you could possibly think that. I’d understand with durability but AP is certain.
Never said AP wasnt affected, I just said there was little proof to say it was Sunjae levels of AP
 
Never said AP wasnt affected, I just said there was little proof to say it was Sunjae levels of AP
Why would it not be Sunjae levels of AP? The items description is only “It synchs you with Sunjae Choi”, it gave Dowan enough of a boost to make a very difficult fight into a easy match and increased his Speed and AP enough where Dowans non-synch hits which did almost nothing to damage enough that made Bujin looked messed up. So the earrings seemingly gave a stat boost to Dowan and the items says it synchs with Sunjae so the logical conclusion would be it gave a stat boost to match Sunjae’s stats. Only durability seems iffy because in the fight, earrings Dowan got hit (not shown but told) and once he felt the rib damage, it broke his earrings but that seems more like a Bujin strength upscale (though I won’t actually argue for that and VSBW usually questions things that are one hit only). At least, it’s a AP and Speed increase using the earrings matching it to Sunjae with no contradictions to it.

Plus, this CRT isn’t really about the Earrings/Sunjae synch mode. The crt about the earrings was months ago so any changes will need to be made with another CRT though I doubt besides durability being questioned, nothing about what the earrings say/do will change.
 
Last edited:
Why would it not be Sunjae levels of AP? The items description is only “It synchs you with Sunjae Choi”, it gave Dowan enough of a boost to make a very difficult fight into a easy match and increased his Speed and AP enough where Dowans non-synch hits which did almost nothing to damage enough that made Bujin looked messed up. So the earrings seemingly gave a stat boost to Dowan and the items says it synchs with Sunjae so the logical conclusion would be it gave a stat boost to match Sunjae’s stats. Only durability seems iffy because in the fight, earrings Dowan got hit (not shown but told) and once he felt the rib damage, it broke his earrings but that seems more like a Bujin strength upscale (though I won’t actually argue for that and VSBW usually questions things that are one hit only). At least, it’s a AP and Speed increase using the earrings matching it to Sunjae with no contradictions to it.

Plus, this CRT isn’t really about the Earrings/Sunjae synch mode. The crt about the earrings was months ago so any changes will need to be made with another CRT though I doubt besides durability being questioned, nothing about what the earrings say/do will change.
It just seems like derailing which is why it seemed like he was being obtuse to me. There was no reason to question the validity of Sunjae’s earring amp in a CRT that doesn’t even focus on that. There’s also how in one of their very own CRT’s they referred Dowan as a “bum.” It just makes me think this is some form of spiteful behaviour but I’ll drop the accusations as they’re not taken lightly. But we should probably drop this conversation.
 
It just seems like derailing which is why it seemed like he was being obtuse to me. There was no reason to question the validity of Sunjae’s earring amp in a CRT that doesn’t even focus on that. There’s also how in one of their very own CRT’s they referred Dowan as a “bum.” It just makes me think this is some form of spiteful behaviour but I’ll drop the accusations as they’re not taken lightly. But we should probably drop this conversation.
Dowan being a bum and my point can both correct, they aren't mutually exclusive lol.

I don't let my hate bias my judgement, you guys just try to wank Dowan at every given oppurtunity and I'm tired of seeing "Dowan can beat Gun" comments (or something akin to that) on powerscaling related to the series. And it's especially funny given how much grace you guys are given.
 
Dowan being a bum and my point can both correct, they aren't mutually exclusive lol.

I don't let my hate bias my judgement, you guys just try to wank Dowan at every given oppurtunity and I'm tired of seeing "Dowan can beat Gun" comments (or something akin to that) on powerscaling related to the series. And it's especially funny given how much grace you guys are given.
This feels like a goomba fallacy at play because I do have other social media platforms and seen some comments on stuff I disagree with pertaining to RQ scaling, this really doesn’t seem applicable on this thread nor really this forum because I do recognize over half of the members who have spoken on this thread on other platforms but I have not seen them say (to my knowledge) he beats Gun. I have my own opinion already on the two verses scaling which I have had posted on other platforms (never here) but again, this seems to be really off topic for this CRT. Plus, any wanking or argument will be proven or disproven by a CRT being approved or not anyway.
 
Last edited:
can someone catch me up on what the discussion has shifted to? whats the context of discussing sunjaes ap? are they trying to say its an AP buff? i mean sure , seemed like it, cant really quantify it tho so cant really be used for scaling. either way im lost. what are the issues present. alot of people have reality quest>lookism in scaling but its mostly not on this platform so idk why it should be brough up.
 
can someone catch me up on what the discussion has shifted to? whats the context of discussing sunjaes ap? are they trying to say its an AP buff? i mean sure , seemed like it, cant really quantify it tho so cant really be used for scaling. either way im lost. what are the issues present. alot of people have reality quest>lookism in scaling but its mostly not on this platform so idk why it should be brough up.
I'd say you caught up and summed it up well tbh
 
Same for the other abilities.

If he was just struck by lighting without using skills, would he still be standing, but not energized?
Tbh the lighting feat is not really that clear

Like the skill activate when he takes immeasurable damage so that means he should tank it first to absorb the energy to use it later

But also dowan was already extremely tired at that moment he even said that he could not lift a finger and was all bloody and whatnot so idk if in that state he can tank it i mean it wouldn't really be convincing to say he can while being in that shape.

I think there is just too much controversy on this feat so i think it should be removed and the other profiles and abilities will be good enough.
 
Tbh the lighting feat is not really that clear

Like the skill activate when he takes immeasurable damage so that means he should tank it first to absorb the energy to use it later

But also dowan was already extremely tired at that moment he even said that he could not lift a finger and was all bloody and whatnot so idk if in that state he can tank it i mean it wouldn't really be convincing to say he can while being in that shape.

I think there is just too much controversy on this feat so i think it should be removed and the other profiles and abilities will be good enough.
Prior to getting struck, was he already injured?

Would he likely be standing/still moving if he was healthy and got struck?
 
Prior to getting struck, was he already injured?

Would he likely be standing/still moving if he was healthy and got struck?
The skill's only description and times its been used is this fight. The wording of the skill "use it when suffering immeasurable damage" is what's causing the confusion but I personally don't believe that the MC at that state of the fight, would've been able to survive the lightning strike if it weren't for the skill. Which is why I believe it was due to the skill's possible "damage negation" and "energy absorption" that he was fine and amped up.
 
Same for the other abilities.
Thanks for the evaluation.

If he was just struck by lighting without using skills, would he still be standing, but not energized?
It's hard to say...

The lightning feat would be 10x stronger than Dowan's current durability and 6x stronger than the strongest AP feat in the series so far.
But the strongest AP feat was something Choi Sun-Jae performed casually so it's not unreasonable to assume that it's possible for the high tier characters in the series such as Dowan himself to be able to survive getting struck by lighting.

That said, like @Hayder0772 said, Dowan was in a really weakened state when he got hit by lightning.
That on top of Indomitable Will's description saying that it can only be activated when the user suffers 'immeasurable damage', it could be the author's way of implying that at his current level Dowan can't survive the lightning strike.

Considering everyone on the thread disagrees with the lightning feat, it should be removed from the CRT.
 
Back
Top