What exactly is it that Kaneki can't resist?
These versions of the brothers don't have deconstruction.
I didn't say decon.
Time Manipulation (Can slow down time to almost seem like a Time Stop via Devil Trigger),
Slows down time for a short period of time. Incidentally, this will be useless after transitioning to Kakuju.
And so?
Never used in battle
Yes, when they are in Limbo
Still happens which leaves him vulnerable if caught.
So he can cut Kaneki's kagune apart without having to worry about the ap diff.
Why does being in Limbo matter? And no.
It's not a basic move, and Kaneki will simply recover from it. And if he increases his speed enough, it won't matter.
This isn't the original Virgil. His Yamato allows for spatial breaches, but it's not a dura neg.
Because the impact on the souls and the world of people occurs in Limbo, which they cannot get to themselves.
In that case, it's strange that you speak so confidently about the stomping
What reasons are we talking about? Arkenis is literally unfamiliar with the characters' abilities for this argument to be valid.
It feels like Arkenis just doesn't like Kaneki
Time slowing and teleportation could help them kill him before he restrains them with kagune. Could they use that immediately?
Time dilation is Dante's ability, not Vergil's. He never uses it immediately due to his personality. He likes to be cheeky, taunt his opponents, and go all-out. Therefore, there's a high chance Kaneki will quickly destroy him with his skills, given the difference in AP.
How does he recover if they just attack in that moment and cut his head off?
Dimensional Cutting is still dura neg and the sword seems to have the ability to cut through anything, so besides the spatial stuff it'll still one shot.
How does this mean they don't have npi for souls?
Because the hax are pretty blatant.In that case, it's strange that you speak so confidently about the stomping
Why make a match where one character has a 12x diff (On Vergil) and a 79x (On Dante) diff in ap? Restrict Half-Kakuja because it makes this match heavily disadvantageous for the brothers.
Literally read TG five times and made several changes to the verse. I made the Ghoul page also
Because Dante can't decapitate him with one blow and never starts with DT. He can dodge Vergil's attacks with skill and instinctive reactions. Plus, he can disarm both of them with LS.
This is a separate ability and isn't used like Dura Neg in combat. Dante himself withstood these attacks without falling apart.
I didn't understand your question. Communicating through a translator is terrible. However, just in case, I'll say that their influence on the soul requires certain conditions to which they have no access.
As we've already established above, this isn't true. Dante doesn't use hax from the start, and teleportation will only improve their mobility, but Kaneki's heightened senses and instinctive reactions will prevent him from being caught off guard.
You just said it's a stomp and Kaneki has no chance. How does his kakuja change the situation if he enters this form during critical damage?
I want to do a fight against 8-A Raiden and against the 7-A MCU Avengers team.
Kaneki doesn't dodge in character for most of his hostile fights and is fine with getting hit, especially once going into Kakuja.
Either the pages are outdated, which looks to be the case or you didn't see this.
I'm asking how them not being in Limbo means they can't touch souls.
What senses? And idk how many times I've had to say this but it's bootleg instinctive action, humans do what Kaneki did in those examples. He's just running off his training, nothing preternatural/supernatural that Vergil or Dante can't deal with.
I don't like disadvantages in ap or dura is all.
Kaneki doesn't start in a kakuja and he never plays the tank role, trying to dodge attacks
Yes, you are right
Because they never affect souls in the real world. All this astral crap is only possible in Limbo, where they were usually forcibly dragged
Call me when trained people are capable of fighting with their eyes closed using only instinct and can see the space around them like sonar. You greatly underestimate Kaneki.
If Virgil is still capable of harming him, it won't be by stomping
That's why I said once he goes into it Kakuja.
Still don't see how that means they can't interact with souls. Does Limbo just give people the power to interact with demons?
Kaneki has never seen the area as a sonar passively. And its something they train to do, all Ghouls can't do it. Shirazu needs to knock on the wall to perceive that way and Ayato also admits he's not as good as others with it and has to concentrate. If you're going to use this argument give an example of Kaneki doing it. Plenty of humans fight who are blind, you can google Pier Morten or just google blind martial artists. No one's underestimating, you're just wanking lmao.
When he enters the kakuja he will probably blitz both brothers
Because the impact on the soul occurs only through limbo
Neither person demonstrates good acrobatic skills, runs on walls, or does somersaults. Ayato isn't as good as Hinami, who can hear for miles, but he can still scan a building. Donato can sense vibrations in the air and dodge attacks from behind while jumping. If Kaneki is attacked while teleporting, he'll simply dodge.
Several people have addressed this feat in previous matches and explained how this isn’t impressive. So done arguing with you.
You were the only person with this feat. It was a match against Taiyo.
Only Vergil can hurt Kaneki via Spatial Hax and even then Time Manip doesn't last long. You also have to assume Dante immediately uses Devil Mode when he really only does it when Vergil is in trouble or it is the only way to win - such as Vergil's boss battle. With the AP Diff, Kaneki is more likely to one shot him than with him being able to get it off
Regen + Immortality Type 2 + AP Diff means Kaneki can tank it and eventually close in
Literally has never used this in character. Might as well bring up Memory Manip
Doesn't help him win
Harm doesn't mean instant death. Even in game, it takes some effort for them to destroy souls, and again if Kaneki hits once, its over for them.
Were they all like BFR victims of Muzan and just fighting to the death inside?
It's actually a time slow. Also, is there anything in-game that tells us Donte is slowing down time instead of just becoming super fast?
I'm planning to remove that ability and change it to a speed amp. There's nothing proving that it's a time slow as far as I can tell. Also gonna downgrade their regeneration to Mid-Low or High-Low.
It's kinda weird that Vergil simultaneously amps his speed as well, whenever Dante uses that ability. Also assuming it's speed amp - it's quite weird that only Dante can do this at his will, but Vergil can't use it otherwise and gets speed boosted automatically
Looks like it last pretty long. And when they realize "shit this monster is stronger than us" Dante does devil trigger. Also you're forgetting Kaneki already is at a one shot diff against Dante, why would he not do DT?
He's not regenerating his head. He almost died from being stabbed in the head. How do you tank spatial cutting?
Read what I said next time so you don't make pointless responses.
That's in the game, Kaneki has no soul resistance or survivability feats from having his soul damaged lol.
Oh right, I forgot that Vergil's DT doesn't work the same. His enemies don't get slowed down like Dante's so it can't be a speed amp they both have.
Can I see the regen? It's not on page and this is what I found, this would be low-mid
Not sure how reliable that wincon is, considering they could do this only in limbo and from what it seems - it's not their first option to go there
