Maki Zenin VS Ruby Rose (10-6-2) FINISHED

[Phoenks]

Maki Zenin (Jujutsu Kaisen) VS Ruby Rose (RWBY)​

Match Conditions​

• Complete Maki Zenin with all equipment.
• Peak (Ascended) Ruby Rose.
• Speed equalized.
• Battle takes place in an abandoned warehouse at 3am.
• Ruby is given the knowledge that Maki wields a soul-splitting katana.

Note: Maki scales to 124.4 tons of tnt. Ruby scales to 249.48 Tons tons of tnt. This means that Ruby is just about ~2x stronger than Maki. However, Ruby holds a masssive advantage in lifting strength. Class M VS Class G.

Votes​

Maki: @LIFE_OF_KING, @Anonymous_Learner, @Endou_God_Hand, @LaserPrecision, @Naito-desu, @Keshirou, @DaReaperMan, @AigerTheKing, @NotoriouSoda, @AthelChan
Ruby: @XSOULOFCINDERX, @Keeweed, @Spinoirr, @WeeklyBattles, @CastoriceTheFifth, @StorytellingDemonKing
Inconclusive: @Robo432343, @Mommyleona

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Ruby cuz Itadori profile suck ass

 

[Keeweed]

Who has the ap advantage?

 

[Phoenks]

Who has the ap advantage?

Ruby by about 2x. Edited it into the OP.

 

[Keeweed]

Then this goes the same as last time. Massive melee weapon with speed advantage guts dude with zero way to defend himself https://vsbattles.com/threads/red-and-black-ruby-rose-vs-yuji-itadori.181837/

 

[Phoenks]

Then this goes the same as last time. Massive melee weapon with speed advantage guts dude with zero way to defend himself https://vsbattles.com/threads/red-and-black-ruby-rose-vs-yuji-itadori.181837/

Oh, I wasn't aware this was done before. Have a better idea then.

 

[Keeweed]

Do you mean you have a better idea or do you mean you are asking me? (Because I would just recommend yang since she does bludgeoning damage and lacks the speed amp)

 

[Arkansalter2]

Pretty sure Ruby just slams here. I don't have any Johns for Yuji or Rubi (I'm saving John EBG for Sukuna and them).

 

[Phoenks]

Do you mean you have a better idea or do you mean you are asking me? (Because I would just recommend yang since she does bludgeoning damage and lacks the speed amp)

Changed to Maki Zenin instead

 

[Zenopuccz]

Changed to Maki Zenin instead

Give her information about Soul splitter or she gets one shot by an attack that goes through her aura.

 

[Phoenks]

Give her information about Soul splitter or she gets one shot by an attack that goes through her aura.

Sure. Sounds fair to me.

 

[Keeweed]

Mmmmh Itadori loves to grab his opponents. What Ruby can do if he holds her once?

That had to be written backwards. Ruby is Class M to G (I think she should just be M but oh well, Ruby profiles are stuck at being messes)

Though with the match change. Think I’ll vote maki. The speed boost is really bad, but if Ruby hits anywhere other than the head, she can instant kill counter

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Maki has analytical prediction that allows her to dodge even invisible attacks and feel everything around her, a massive LS advantage that she uses a lot (Maki most of time throws her opponentes over the battlefield), some pretty decent stamina and has a sword that ignores the durability and soul of anyone

What can Ruby do?

 

[Naito-desu]

Maki won against Qrow in another thread so this'll be interesting to see if there's anything different here lol

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Maki won against Qrow in another thread so this'll be interesting to see if there's anything different here lol

Qrow didn't have a spammable blitz amp and an arsenal of hax bullets like Ruby does. He's arguably weaker than her now too.

 

[Keeweed]

She has a massive speed advantage with her semblance and a stabbing weapon with two times ap behind it. So the precognition kinda becomes moot for defense as she lacks the speed to actually capitalize on it. If Ruby goes for extra fatal hits fast enough she could shred Maki, but if maki lives I feel she could use the precognition to set up a counter

 

[Phoenks]

Maki has analytical prediction that allows her to dodge even invisible attacks and feel everything around her, a massive LS advantage that she uses a lot (Maki most of time throws her opponentes over the battlefield), some pretty decent stamina and has a sword that ignores the durability and soul of anyone

What can Ruby do?

Slight correction but Ruby actually holds the massive LS advantage. She has Class G. My OP is wrong.

Ruby also has the AP advantage (2x) and speed advantage via her amps.

I also did give her prior knowledge on the sword, so she at least knows to avoid it. And I believe the "ruby is skilled" people will be here at some point to debate ya on that aspect.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I don't watch the series. Can someone show me that blitz so I can try to work with that?

 

[Keeweed]

I don’t agree with Ruby having the skill advantage, but I think both are in the generic anime skill ball park of being above average by a lot but not translating into real world skill at all (maki at least has good perception and precision, that is understandable)

 

[LaserPrecision]

Maki has analytical prediction that allows her to dodge even invisible attacks and feel everything around her, a massive LS advantage that she uses a lot (Maki most of time throws her opponentes over the battlefield), some pretty decent stamina and has a sword that ignores the durability and soul of anyone

What can Ruby do?

Although less noteworthy, it's stated Maki has all equipment which includes Playful Cloud (Which vastly upscales the user in strength) and Dragon Bone (Which absorbs the force of an opponent's strike and ejects it out the back of the sword to use in a strike that cleaves through whatever it hits), and Maki has been shown to duel-wield. Which would be even more annoying to deal with.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I don’t agree with Ruby having the skill advantage, but I think both are in the generic anime skill ball park of being above average by a lot but not translating into real world skill at all (maki at least has good perception and precision, that is understandable)

I'm not going to argue skill because I feel that's sort of irrelevant in this match-up, but what do you mean by not translating into real world skill?

 

[Keeweed]

I'm not going to argue skill because I feel that's sort of irrelevant in this match-up, but what do you mean by not translating into real world skill?

I mean that they aren’t really qualifiable because they don’t do things that would be realistically skillful or in an out of verse sense don’t actually mean much of anything. Like weekly likes to point out that aura requires alot of skill to use, but skill in what exactly from an out of verse perspective. It’s a meaningless statement.

 

[Phoenks]

I'm not going to argue skill because I feel that's sort of irrelevant in this match-up, but what do you mean by not translating into real world skill?

Tbh I don't see how it is that irrelevant. Maki is primarily a physical (melee) fighter. So is Ruby from what I can tell.

If Maki is skilled enough to land a good hit on Ruby even despite a speed disadvantage, she wins. If she isn't, then she loses. That's how I'd view it, anyway.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I don't watch the series. Can someone show me that blitz so I can try to work with that?

Can someone please show the amp in action and how it is used

 

[First_Witch]

I'm not going to argue skill because I feel that's sort of irrelevant in this match-up

How can you say something so hurtful

 

[Keeweed]

The big thing for me is that Ruby doesn’t usually try to super murder human opponents so she’ll try to go for less dangerous hits, which maki can eat due to regeneration giving her many chances to land a hit and nuke Ruby’s soul. If Ruby just went buck wild I’ll vote for her, but I am super torn right now on.
Also for her semblance:

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Can someone please show the amp in action and how it is used

3:22 and this is when she was significantly worse at using it than she is in this key.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Tbh I don't see how it is that irrelevant. Maki is primarily a physical (melee) fighter. So is Ruby from what I can tell.

If Maki is skilled enough to land a good hit on Ruby even despite a speed disadvantage, she wins. If she isn't, then she loses. That's how I'd view it, anyway.

I was saying it was irrelevant because the two seem to be in a similar enough ballpark to harm each other. If there was a big skill gap, then yeah, it would be relevant to the debate, but I don't wanna argue if the two are comparable. Skill debates are boring.

I mean that they aren’t really qualifiable because they don’t do things that would be realistically skillful or in an out of verse sense don’t actually mean much of anything. Like weekly likes to point out that aura requires alot of skill to use, but skill in what exactly from an out of verse perspective. It’s a meaningless statement.

I mean for stuff like abilities yeah. But most of Maki's skill is like... hand to hand combat. Which can be replicated irl. Only thing that can't is her ability to jump off of air. But like, her normal acrobatics can be realistically replicated skillfully irl. Maki has no aura or energy system skill that can't be replicated irl. She's like, a physical brawler.

How can you say something so hurtful

I'm sorry little one. But debating skill gets boring at some point.

 

[Arkenis]

3:22 and this is when she was significantly worse at using it than she is in this key.

Is this the blitz?

Edit: Whats the difference? Like stated amp? Multiplier? Just seems like she goes faster. If this is all, Maki's senses would let her predict it and hit her like she did Naoya.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Also for her semblance:

So like, it's strainght line dash? She press the thing and boom? Cuz if so I really think that Maki's analytical prediction can deal with it, specially when she could react to numerous Sukuna slashes

 

[Phoenks]

I was saying it was irrelevant because the two seem to be in a similar enough ballpark to harm each other. If there was a big skill gap, then yeah, it would be relevant to the debate, but I don't wanna argue if the two are comparable. Skill debates are boring.

Any skill gap is notable when you have two physically comparable melee fighters competing against one another.

Couldn't disagree more on skill debates being "boring." I find them quite interesting when done right.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So like, it's strainght line dash? She press the thing and boom? Cuz if so I really think that Maki's analytical prediction can deal with it, specially when she could react to numerous Sukuna slashes

No, she can do all sorts of turns and even fly with it, not to mention using it makes her intangible too.

 

[Arkenis]

not to mention using it makes her intangible too.

Not really relevant given SSK.

 

[Keeweed]

Yeah in this key ruby can go in any direction she wants plus can even split. That’s on the profile

 

[Keeweed]

Not really relevant given SSK.

I mean, can that hit stray molecules?

 

[Arkenis]

I mean, can that bit stray molecules?

Oh she decons her soul into molecular sized?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Not really relevant given SSK.

It will make hitting her harder since she can split around attacks instead of just going through them, something she shows several keys ago.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Any skill gap is notable when you have two physically comparable melee fighters competing against one another.

Couldn't disagree more on skill debates being "boring." I find them quite interesting when done right.

I mean sure, but I feel like there are better things to focus on that matter more than skill such as their weapons and abilities. If it was a massive skill diff, then sure. The ability can be rendered useless. But if they're comparable, those tend to matter more.

If they're done right, sure. Most people I've done it with don't do it right or it just goes on ad nauseam, or it ended up not mattering much in the end. So if people wanna debate skill here they can, but I don't particularly want to get invested into it.

 

[Arkenis]

It will make hitting her harder since she can split around attacks instead of just going through them, something she shows several keys ago.

Oh she decons her soul into molecular sized?

 

[Keeweed]

Oh she decons her soul into molecular sized?

Considering she can become two of herselves through it, I assume the soul sticks to the molecules and isn’t just in the general area.