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Ok so currently, Gold saint level characters are scaled as galaxy level, upto uni+ with miracles. This is incorrect as the galaxy rating comes from the manga, which isn’t the same timeline.
In order to determine what the rating should be, i will now introduce a place called Otherworld. This is an area outside of all infinite "crossroads". A crossroad in this context, refers to the points in which people make choices. When they do so, infinites fates are stated to diverge, and the results of that choice are shown to be their own separate futures.
To reiterate, every choice one can create leads to the creation of infinitely more worlds.
These futures are represented by planets(They are called stars for some reason????) visually.
This should make Otherspace a 2-A space, as it contains infinite worlds.
However, those of you who have seen this episode of Omega before might rightfully call out the fact that Gemini Paradox, who controls this space, calls these worlds possible worlds. However, I believe she is not saying that "these worlds don’t exist yet and could", but instead that if somebody makes the correct choices, their world becomes like one of these worlds.
This is because when she is showing him these worlds, she is physically directing her Cosmo between each world they are looking at. You can’t direct something to a non existent object.
So, she has physically moved her cosmo from timeline to timeline. Obviously this would imply they are actually there.
I understand if this isn’t enough evidence on its own though. When the character Dragon Ryuho is confronted with two worlds within Otherspace, one where he surrenders and lives peacefully, and one where he keeps fighting and everybody dies, Paradox states the following facts about these worlds. She asserts that they exist, when ryuho tries to call them illusions in denial. She also states that they are paradoxical truths that shouldn’t both exist but do.
The worlds are explicitly not illusions, and explicitly all exist.
In addition, when Ryuho destroys Crossroad Mirage(The technique used to bring them there is called Crossroad Mirage) through the strength of his Cosmo, we actually see 5 of these worlds getting destroyed and torn apart. So from this, I believe the far more sensible interpretation is the one I’ve presented, and so his feat of destroying it would be 2-C.
Again, he has destroyed 5 timelines, making him 2-C.
For god level character on the other hand, we can start the 2-A scaling at Abzu via being the “overseer of creation and destruction” and also the creator of the universe, which is big enough to contain infinite stars via, well, literally containing infinite stars.
Thus, all Omega Era gold level characters would be 2-C, Since Ryuho and his friends who are roughly equal to him spend this entire arc getting their asses kicked by gold saints. So 2-C via destroying 5 universes and the Big Bang would upscale immensely.
The Classic Era Golds would scale from Saga’s Galaxian Explosion being able to destroy stars. This is the same statement Integra made, that she would destroy the stars governing fate with her Galaxian Explosion. This would make Saga 2-C, 2 universes, as stars is plural.
As mentioned prior, the Planets/timelines/Fates are called stars, and they decide fate for characters, it’s why saint seiya characters can look at stars and tell the future if they are skilled enough. What Integra and Paradox have is just a far better version where instead of seeing basically vibes, they just flat out see everything.
To repeat, Stars are low 2-c constructs, and Saga is stated to be able to bust 2 of them.
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As for the proper Gods, They would be 2-A via Abzu. Athena downscales from him, and then most other Gods upscale Athena and abzu. Cept the twins and hosts level people, they would just be really high into 2-C
Agree):Aerrow, AlexZiggy, Koolray, Kaiou, Hasty, DarkDragon, CelestialPegasus(except with classic era Saga scaling), LordGriffin
Disagree:
In order to determine what the rating should be, i will now introduce a place called Otherworld. This is an area outside of all infinite "crossroads". A crossroad in this context, refers to the points in which people make choices. When they do so, infinites fates are stated to diverge, and the results of that choice are shown to be their own separate futures.
To reiterate, every choice one can create leads to the creation of infinitely more worlds.
These futures are represented by planets(They are called stars for some reason????) visually.
This should make Otherspace a 2-A space, as it contains infinite worlds.
However, those of you who have seen this episode of Omega before might rightfully call out the fact that Gemini Paradox, who controls this space, calls these worlds possible worlds. However, I believe she is not saying that "these worlds don’t exist yet and could", but instead that if somebody makes the correct choices, their world becomes like one of these worlds.
This is because when she is showing him these worlds, she is physically directing her Cosmo between each world they are looking at. You can’t direct something to a non existent object.
So, she has physically moved her cosmo from timeline to timeline. Obviously this would imply they are actually there.
I understand if this isn’t enough evidence on its own though. When the character Dragon Ryuho is confronted with two worlds within Otherspace, one where he surrenders and lives peacefully, and one where he keeps fighting and everybody dies, Paradox states the following facts about these worlds. She asserts that they exist, when ryuho tries to call them illusions in denial. She also states that they are paradoxical truths that shouldn’t both exist but do.
The worlds are explicitly not illusions, and explicitly all exist.
In addition, when Ryuho destroys Crossroad Mirage(The technique used to bring them there is called Crossroad Mirage) through the strength of his Cosmo, we actually see 5 of these worlds getting destroyed and torn apart. So from this, I believe the far more sensible interpretation is the one I’ve presented, and so his feat of destroying it would be 2-C.
Again, he has destroyed 5 timelines, making him 2-C.
For god level character on the other hand, we can start the 2-A scaling at Abzu via being the “overseer of creation and destruction” and also the creator of the universe, which is big enough to contain infinite stars via, well, literally containing infinite stars.
Thus, all Omega Era gold level characters would be 2-C, Since Ryuho and his friends who are roughly equal to him spend this entire arc getting their asses kicked by gold saints. So 2-C via destroying 5 universes and the Big Bang would upscale immensely.
The Classic Era Golds would scale from Saga’s Galaxian Explosion being able to destroy stars. This is the same statement Integra made, that she would destroy the stars governing fate with her Galaxian Explosion. This would make Saga 2-C, 2 universes, as stars is plural.
As mentioned prior, the Planets/timelines/Fates are called stars, and they decide fate for characters, it’s why saint seiya characters can look at stars and tell the future if they are skilled enough. What Integra and Paradox have is just a far better version where instead of seeing basically vibes, they just flat out see everything.
To repeat, Stars are low 2-c constructs, and Saga is stated to be able to bust 2 of them.
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As for the proper Gods, They would be 2-A via Abzu. Athena downscales from him, and then most other Gods upscale Athena and abzu. Cept the twins and hosts level people, they would just be really high into 2-C
Agree):Aerrow, AlexZiggy, Koolray, Kaiou, Hasty, DarkDragon, CelestialPegasus(except with classic era Saga scaling), LordGriffin
Disagree:
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