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Blood Demon Art: Infinite Discussion (A Kimetsu No Yaiba Discussion Thread)

Since you saw the movie and saw the true size of the fortress being revealed. Do you think Kaneki can still nuke the fortress or find Nakime?
I only watched excerpts because the movie isn't coming out until winter, but Kaneki won't be able to destroy it. I can't say for sure about finding it, because according to the plot, Nakime wasn't able to properly utilize her abilities for concealment and camouflage.

But with the new scenes from the anime, you can rematch Yoriichi and Muzan. What do you think about that?
 
I only watched excerpts because the movie isn't coming out until winter, but Kaneki won't be able to destroy it. I can't say for sure about finding it, because according to the plot, Nakime wasn't able to properly utilize her abilities for concealment and camouflage.

But with the new scenes from the anime, you can rematch Yoriichi and Muzan. What do you think about that?

A rematch wouldn't work even with the true size of the fortress being revealed. Yoriichi cooked Muzan by just blitzing all the Twelve Kizuki and Muzan frame 1 😭
(Btw the win con was via death to prevent Muzan from being a coward and just leaving him in the fortress)
 

A rematch wouldn't work even with the true size of the fortress being revealed. Yoriichi cooked Muzan by just blitzing all the Twelve Kizuki and Muzan frame 1 😭
(Btw the win con was via death to prevent Muzan from being a coward and just leaving him in the fortress)
Why not just make these conditions in battle with other characters, or put Yoriichi in the same conditions as other characters?
 
Why not just make these conditions in battle with other characters, or put Yoriichi in the same conditions as other characters?
The conditions were
Speed unequalized
Muzan has 30 minutes prep time
Muzan has all the twelve kizuki pre summoned ready to jump Yoriichi
Douma is bloodlusted
Fight takes place in the Infinity Fortress

Speed cannot be equalized because Yoriichi gets giga stomped even without the other conditions

 
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The conditions were
Speed unequalized
Muzan has 30 minutes prep time
Muzan has all the twelve kizuki pre summoned ready to jump Yoriichi
Douma is bloodlusted
Fight takes place in the Infinity Fortress

Speed cannot be equalized because Yoriichi gets giga stomped even without the other conditions

I mean, can we add death-defying win conditions to other matches? That way, Muzan doesn't lock his opponents out forever.
 
The conditions were
Speed unequalized
Muzan has 30 minutes prep time
Muzan has all the twelve kizuki pre summoned ready to jump Yoriichi
Douma is bloodlusted
Fight takes place in the Infinity Fortress

Speed cannot be equalized because Yoriichi gets giga stomped even without the other conditions

If the kill win condition is removed, but Nakime is still in the castle and the speed isn't evened out, does Yoriichi have a chance?
 
I mean, can we add death-defying win conditions to other matches? That way, Muzan doesn't lock his opponents out forever.
Dont know. I did it in this specific case because
1. The fight took place in the Infinity fortress right off the bat and that would prevent him from just leaving frame 1
2. Its extremely out of character for Muzan to fight Yoriichi willingly lol
 
If the kill win condition is removed, but Nakime is still in the castle and the speed isn't evened out, does Yoriichi have a chance?
I kid you not. No matter how its phrased, if the match isnt set in a way Muzan is forced to kill him, he will ALWAYS 100% of the time either run away or leave the fortress frame 1 because he will never square up against Yoriichi 😭
 
I kid you not. No matter how its phrased, if the match isnt set in a way Muzan is forced to kill him, he will ALWAYS 100% of the time either run away or leave the fortress frame 1 because he will never square up against Yoriichi 😭
Why can't they stipulate that they don't know each other? Like in other battles between verses.

Besides, in their last match, Yoriichi won because people said he'd somehow find Nakime. What's stopping him from finding Nakime once Muzan hides?
Although I disagree. How will Yoriichi find Nakime in the current anime castle?
 
Regular fandoms:

"VSB constantly overstates the characters' abilities, and this is an unjustified outlier! These characters are building-level, not town-level or universe-level!"

Meanwhile, the YouTube and TikTok community:

Large Island level: Yoriichi
Multiverse level: Yujiro
Large Planet level: Sukuna and Gojo
Continent level: Kaneki
Boundless level: Kratos and Dante
High Outversal level: Garou and Saitama


I mean, I've got Yoriichi at Island+, but not LARGE Island.
 
Why can't they stipulate that they don't know each other? Like in other battles between verses.

Besides, in their last match, Yoriichi won because people said he'd somehow find Nakime. What's stopping him from finding Nakime once Muzan hides?
Although I disagree. How will Yoriichi find Nakime in the current anime castle?
Then you would literally get the exact same fight from the manga if they didnt know each other

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I wasnt that involved in the match but I'm pretty sure the main win con of Yoriichi was blitzing Muzan and the twelve kizuki present there while the the other arguments were just to counter Nakime's things
 
Then you would literally get the exact same fight from the manga if they didnt know each other

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I wasnt that involved in the match but I'm pretty sure the main win con of Yoriichi was blitzing Muzan and the twelve kizuki present there while the the other arguments were just to counter Nakime's things
All arguments against Nakime were along the lines of "I think Yoriichi will somehow be able to find her and kill her," which is consistent with what we saw in the story. Hiding the enemy forever or using ingenious structures like hiding Muzan at a height of 3 km without any platforms for movement is out of the question, since Muzan is an idiot and didn't think of that in the manga.
 
300 km at least
Much much bigger. Crows at full speed would cover about 240km in the movies run time. The crows start in the middle and spread out. Even cutting 1 hour for flashbacks, the midradius is already is 144 km.

Then Nakime starts expanding the castle which goes from a complete void to covering the horizon.
 
Much much bigger. Crows at full speed would cover about 240km in the movies run time. The crows start in the middle and spread out. Even cutting 1 hour for flashbacks, the midradius is already is 144 km.

Then Nakime starts expanding the castle which goes from a complete void to covering the horizon.
I just wanna emphasize how this feat doesn’t contradict anything in the manga which is crazy
 
Too bad we have no way to use any of this since no one scales to it other than Nakime's non offensive BDA. It's like Black Clover's Dorthy. Well actually it's much worse because for BC you can atleast argue Yami cutting it in half.
 
non offensive BDA
It is offensive tho, assuming nakime has a kaiju big enough as an opponent, nothing is really stopping from continously yeeting all those buildings towards him at those ungodly speeds.


I don't really know why people say the others can't scale, especially considering the power system mechanics here..
 
It is offensive tho, assuming nakime has a kaiju big enough as an opponent, nothing is really stopping from continously yeeting all those buildings towards him at those ungodly speeds.


I don't really know why people say the others can't scale, especially considering the power system mechanics here..
Sure she can crush someone big enough by just crushing them with constantly increasing mass. But a very specific use case.

Others can't scale. BDA isn't the same type of universal energy system as ki or spiritual power or chakra. There is no quantifiable way to release it for AP or DP purposes.
 
Sure she can crush someone big enough by just crushing them with constantly increasing mass. But a very specific use case.

Others can't scale. BDA isn't the same type of universal energy system as ki or spiritual power or chakra. There is no quantifiable way to release it for AP or DP purposes.
In other news

Either Izuku 20-0 Midoriya or Izuku 19-1 Midoriya
 
Sure she can crush someone big enough by just crushing them with constantly increasing mass. But a very specific use case.
Still an offensive use regardless?

Describing as non offensive is just objectively wrong, it was simply impossible to use on human sized targets.

Others can't scale. BDA isn't the same type of universal energy system as ki or spiritual power or chakra. There is no quantifiable way to release it for AP or DP purposes.

Would you please define what you mean by "quantifiable way to release for AP"?

And what do you mean "universal energy system", how do you define that, and why is it the only way for the other characters to scale?

Even ignoring the fact that the higher ranks have access to a more "concentrated" blood which offers better quality fuel for the attacks themselves (as all blood demon arts are fueled with a demon's blood), Nakime throwing around buildings is similar in terms of mechanics when it comes to scaling as Gyutaro using his blood blades to attack, Akaza creating shockwaves and propelling them towards Giyu and Tanjiro, Kokushibo creating and propelling his crescent moon blades towards Sanemi and Gyomei, Sekiro creating and accelerating his light spear constructs, etc.


Trying to create a differential between the mechanics is reasonable, as demons are shown to have different amounts of control over their manifested attacks, but what you can't dispute is their ability to perform a similar level of propulsion and energy impartion by virtue of them having a higher-quality energy source and thus an overall better fuel than Nakime herself, which by inverse scaling mechanics makes them the stronger and "better" demon.

I just generally see no reason to deem her attacks somehow an exception given the hierarchy of strength presented within the series that's empathized via the higher concentration of Muzan’s blood within a demon the stronger they are, which pretty much implies that Muzan is always the strongest given the mechanics of how blood demon arts are powered, with stronger demons having "purer" and more potent blood, with said purity determining their strenght and rank within the upper moons so no lower ranked demon can exceed the one above it. Which makes it so by default, a demon like Nakime can’t logically emit more raw energy than a higher ranked demon, you're really just side stepping the argument by pointing out her specialization, which does nothing to prove she can somehow output more energy than every single character ever.
 
Regular fandoms:

"VSB constantly overstates the characters' abilities, and this is an unjustified outlier! These characters are building-level, not town-level or universe-level!"

Meanwhile, the YouTube and TikTok community:

Large Island level: Yoriichi
Multiverse level: Yujiro
Large Planet level: Sukuna and Gojo
Continent level: Kaneki
Boundless level: Kratos and Dante
High Outversal level: Garou and Saitama


Very good video 👍😃
 
We really just need the length and a bare bones width then multiple it by 100
 
I feel some satisfaction from this because I remember a lot of edits where Yujiro defeats KnY, Tokyo Ghoul, Sukuna and Toji, All Might and the HxH characters
People I know send Yujiro to MFTL+ and universal, for me this is hilarious, but when I try to debate why Kny is not so inferior they call me a layman.
 
Much much bigger. Crows at full speed would cover about 240km in the movies run time. The crows start in the middle and spread out. Even cutting 1 hour for flashbacks, the midradius is already is 144 km.

Then Nakime starts expanding the castle which goes from a complete void to covering the horizon.
where did you get this number
 
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