Superman (DCU) vs Spider-Man (Marvel Comics) [0-8-0] (GRACE ENDED)

[Lloydblitzed]

Kal El and Peter gets into a beef and decides to fight



Rules:
Speed is equalized
Fight takes place in an empty Metropolis
Mark IV Spider-Man is used
SBA for the rest

Superman:
Spider-Man: @AigerTheKing @That_moron2 @Tomfer @ShakeResounding @TheOrangeGuy09 @MannyQ361 @Lloydblitzed @Delusionaltx2
Incon:

 

[AThe1412]

Kal El and Peter gets into a beef and decides to fight to the death

Not in character for either of them.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Not in character for either of them.

Its allowed to make matches like this

 

[AThe1412]

Its allowed to make matches like this

Then write that they're bloodlusted in the OP.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Then write that they're bloodlusted in the OP.

Lowkey gonna keep them in char so it doesn't end faster

 

[Lloydblitzed]

For values, Spider-Man scales to 16.7304015296367113 Tons, while Superman scales to 45.027814 Tons

 

[Tomfer]

Clark wins because his profile isn't dogshit. The only good part of Peter's profile is the recently added stuff by Saman.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Clark wins because his profile isn't dogshit. The only good part of Peter's profile is the recently added stuff by Saman.

 

[That_moron2]

The usual Spider-Man web incap method won't work here due to Clark's lifting strength being higher than his, and that A.P advantage isn't pretty either, but he could incapacitate Clark with the electrical defense in the suit. I won't vote just yet but I'm leaning Pete

 

[AigerTheKing]

The usual Spider-Man web incap method won't work here due to Clark's lifting strength being higher than his, and that A.P advantage isn't pretty either, but he could incapacitate Clark with the electrical defense in the suit. I won't vote just yet but I'm leaning Pete

Can't Superman throw him around?

 

[That_moron2]

Can't Superman throw him around?

The electrical thing works by contact and he's also gonna be hard to hit because of Spider-Sense

 

[AigerTheKing]

The electrical thing works by contact and he's also gonna be hard to hit because of Spider-Sense

I think he can heal from it

Regeneration (High-Low over time; Healed severe ocular burns within several minutes. With sufficient exposure to concentrated sunlight, his healing accelerates dramatically, repairing multiple bone fractures and organ damage)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

The usual Spider-Man web incap method won't work here due to Clark's lifting strength being higher than his, and that A.P advantage isn't pretty either, but he could incapacitate Clark with the electrical defense in the suit. I won't vote just yet but I'm leaning Pete

Pretty sure he can use Super breath to push Spider-Man away

 

[That_moron2]

I think he can heal from it

I don't think his regen can fix his motor functions being thrown out of wack

Pretty sure he can use Super breath to push Spider-Man away

He could but he'd have to know about it to make moves against it. His first move is probably going in for close combat, as is Pete's, and once Pete figures out how outmatched he is (probably pretty quick), he can use the shock so that when Superman touches him he gets incapcitated

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He could but he'd have to know about it to make moves against it. His first move is probably going in for close combat, as is Pete's, and once Pete figures out how outmatched he is (probably pretty quick), he can use the shock so that when Superman touches him he gets incapcitated

Given Peter's great combat skills, wouldn't it push Superman to pull off Heat Vision?

 

[AThe1412]

Worth noting that Spidey downscales from his 8-B AP hence the at most rating. A punch from Collective Man didn't oneshot but did daze the hell out of him.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Worth noting that Spidey downscales from his 8-B AP hence the at most rating. A punch from Collective Man didn't oneshot but did daze the hell out of him.

So a punch from Superman, who's AP is 2.69x higher, would be very dangerous to him

 

[That_moron2]

Given Peter's great combat skills, wouldn't it push Superman off Heat Vision?

Pete is at a pretty huge disadvantage stat wise, Clark is about 3.5x stronger than someone who could easily daze him with punches, so I doubt that. If he does then heat vision wouldn't be very hard to avoid

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Pete is at a pretty huge disadvantage stat wise, Clark is about 3.5x stronger than someone who could easily daze him with punches, so I doubt that. If he does then heat vision wouldn't be very hard to avoid

Meh, Kal El was capable of hitting multiple enemies coming at once to him, so tagging him with heat vision shouldn't be much of a problem

 

[That_moron2]

Meh, Kal El was capable of hitting multiple enemies coming at once to him, so tagging him with heat vision shouldn't be much of a problem

They didn't have cracked acrobatics and precognition

 

[Delusionaltx2]

pete has an extremely high skill advantage, pre-cog, info analysis, web punch, and electricity

Supes, on the other hand, is much stronger, can keep up with Pete using flight, has a gargantuan LS advantage, and heat vision

neutral, leaning towards peter

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

For values, Spider-Man scales to 16.7304015296367113 Tons, while Superman scales to 45.027814 Tons

So a punch from Superman, who's AP is 2.69x higher, would be very dangerous to him

Superman scales to 59 tons actually, not 45. So it's a 3.6x AP difference in his favor.

 

[AigerTheKing]

Nah lowkey Peter FRA with the new args

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Counted

 

[Tomfer]

Sups ain't laying a finger on Peter tbh. And no, it's not because of precog, 616's precog is trash when compared to other Spideys without anti-feats. Spidey just has cracked acrobatics and stealth, it's not something this Sups can handle.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Sups ain't laying a finger on Peter tbh. And no, it's not because of precog, 616's precog is trash when compared to other Spideys without anti-feats. Spidey just has cracked acrobatics and stealth, it's not something this Sups can handle.

Is this a vote?

 

[That_moron2]

Spider-Man fra

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Spider-Man fra

Counted

 

[AThe1412]

So Supes now has an 8-A key where he scales to 141 tons. Are we using that or not?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So Supes now has an 8-A key where he scales to 141 tons. Are we using that or not?

We could but it wouldn't affect Spider-Man's wincoins much. At least now I can argue Superman can one shot

 

[AigerTheKing]

Sups ain't laying a finger on Peter tbh. And no, it's not because of precog, 616's precog is trash when compared to other Spideys without anti-feats. Spidey just has cracked acrobatics and stealth, it's not something this Sups can handle.

Stealth won't work cuz X-Ray vision

 

[That_moron2]

So Supes now has an 8-A key where he scales to 141 tons. Are we using that or not?

I wouldn’t. Supes has enough of an advantage in straight combat as is

 

[Tomfer]

Stealth won't work cuz X-Ray vision

Except that's trash when compared to Comics stuff. In Spidey's profile, DD, someone with FAR BETTER senses that Clark, states that Peter's stealth is impossibly quiet. Plus Clark needs to keep constantly looking for Peter, which, for obvious reasons, is going to be extremely difficul.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Except that's trash when compared to Comics stuff. In Spidey's profile, DD, someone with FAR BETTER senses that Clark, states that Peter's stealth is impossibly quiet. Plus Clark needs to keep constantly looking for Peter, which, for obvious reasons, is going to be extremely difficul.

So you're voting for Peter too?

 

[Tomfer]

So you're voting for Peter too?

Sure.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Counted

 

[ShakeResounding]

Spider-Sense is really mostly good here as an additional layer of defense, but it's not this useless thing to ignore either. His Acrobatics really just speak for themself as nobody in Supes' verse can even compare yet. Same goes for stealth due to what Tomfer noted.

Spidey needs to rely on the hax he has with the MK IV, which I believe is very in-character for him to do when faced with an opponent with nearly 4x his strength and with no resources but the suit he's wearing.

Despite Supes being able to reasonably incapacitate Spidey in just a few hits, my vote goes to Spidey.

Also when Pete gets upgraded to 8-B in Base we should run it back.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Counted

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Spidey FRA

 

[Lloydblitzed]

counted