Kamen Rider X vs Hakurou

[Dark_Soul20189]

Summary
Due to the similarity of both verses in hax department, I have decided it would be fun to create some match-up between the 2 verses.


Kamen Rider X

VS

Hakarou (Light Novel)

Rules
Equalized Speed
Battlefield is just a giant flat plains biome (Imagine a Minecraft flat world IRL)
Starting distance is 50 meters
Rest is SBA

Fighting conditions
Kamen Rider uses his 2nd key (Kamen Rider X)
Hakarou uses his first key (Kijin)
Both sides have access to all their equipment

Noteworthy advantages (I could find)

Kamen Rider X
*AP and Durability
*Lifting Strenght
*Versitility
*Eqvipment
*More wincons (Has far more small abilities, and ways to both kill or permanently disable Hakurou.)
*Range
(These should be self-evident)

Hakurou (Kijin key)
*Experience (He has lived and fought for over 300 years)
*Swordsmanship (He has practiced and refined his swordsmanship for over 300 years)
*Intelligence
*Senses and info analysis (Heavenly eye and Magic sense)
*More compact skillset that complements each other well.
*Have mind, speed, and strength amps (Though on different levels)

Unknowns
*Martial Arts (Hakurou is also extremely skilled in martial arts, both with swords and hands, but I don't know the exact capability of X)
*AD (X AD seems much more intentional and controllable, while Hakurou's is much more chance-based and uncontrollable, but stronger)

Votes
Old man, Hakurou:
Just going for a ride, X: @Kazuma_kuwabara,
The match got nuked by Azatoth, incon: @ZeedKZ, @Shadowslash125, @Dark_Soul20189, @TsukasayaEmmaDCD, @Jerry59, @Ultimate-Rex1, @IxaSaga, @Arkansalter2,

 

[Shadowslash125]

Quick Question, what's Hakurou's starting move?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Quick Question, what's Hakurou's starting move?

Often, from the battles I know of, he starts of by observing and learning about his opponent.
Hakarou is the kind of fighter who prefers to finish a fight with one move after learning enough about his opponent and finding a weakness.
(So you can count on Magic sense, and likely Heavenly eye, already being activated)

 

[Shadowslash125]

X usually pulls out his Ridol immediately at the start of his match. Since he has the range advantage, he can poke him, whip him to shape or even bound him with the Ridol Rope. Considering the higher LS, he's not going to escape once he's caught.
Also due to the oneshot capabilities, Hakurou would immediately explode in a single hit.
Though I'm not the most knowledgeable with X, and one or two guys will come in for better elaboration.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah literally anything X does would oneshot. However...
SL Physiology may be able to cover some expenses.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

X usually pulls out his Ridol immediately at the start of his match. Since he has the range advantage, he can poke him, whip him to shape or even bound him with the Ridol Rope. Considering the higher LS, he's not going to escape once he's caught.

Yeah, Hakurou will lose if he gets caught by it, but I find it very unlikely, Its range is 30 meters, and starting distance is 50, meaning he will need to move 20 meters closer, to than use it, and actually hit him, giving more than enough time for it to be fullly analyzsed by Hakurou, and will boost his perception speed 1000x.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Yeah literally anything X does would oneshot. However...
SL Physiology may be able to cover some expenses

Yep, I thought it would be fun to try it first before hand, though. Since I do find it a puasibility he can dodge and scoore a killing blow.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Is funni motorcycle affected by speed equal

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Is funni motorcycle affected by speed equal

I think so? Unless it counts as a speed amp.

 

[Shadowslash125]

will boost his perception speed 1000x

Does this boost his reaction speed as well like many other "perception speed boosters" or just perception alone?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Does this boost his reaction speed as well like many other "perception speed boosters" or just perception alone?

It boosts his combat and reaction speed, but to an unknown degree, directly due to the perception boost.

You can see it as him being able to "think" faster, thus he is capable of "acting" much faster. (Though from what I am aware, his "movement speed" dosen't increase that way in this key.)

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Snip

You still interested?

 

[Arkansalter2]

I'll watch this thread. Might give my input later.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alright, so let's continue.

When Hakarou is done observing (after dodging X's Whip), he will likely go for the kill, this would be activating Haze, and go for a decapitation strike.
How does X deal with that? Since I don't think X can detect Haze.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Is Haze layered or just enhanced potency?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Is Haze layered or just enhanced potency?

Haze is the perfected version of Formhild, so no it's not layered. Though it does have a much more extensive Potency and as well much more abilities, so not even Magic sense can detect it.

 

[ZeedKZ]

How is Hakurou dodging the Ridol Whip when it doesn't even has enough range to cover the estabilished distance? I thought the main deal was Hakurou somehow analyzing X-Rider before stepping up 20 meters closer and one-shot him. Because if that is Hakurou's starting move, then he'll just think in a way to avoid anything X throws at him given he'll be 1000x slower to him.

How does X deal with that? Since I don't think X can detect Haze.

Is it something that directly messes up with X's perception? If it does, then how far it can go given the starting distance? Otherwise, the invisibility aspect is bypassed.

Either way, how can Hakurou damage X-Rider? Still can't figure out? Is it due to Magic?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

How is Hakurou dodging the Ridol Whip when it doesn't even has enough range to cover the estabilished distance?

Not gonna lie, I don't understand what you mean by this? What does dodging have to do with range here?

I thought the main deal was Hakurou somehow analyzing X-Rider before stepping up 20 meters closer and one-shot him. Because if that is Hakurou's starting move, then he'll just think in a way to avoid anything X throws at him given he'll be 1000x slower to him.

Basically, Magic Sense and Heavenly Eyes will be open right at the start (This allows him to fully analyze his movements and actions), he will likely activate his perception amp here, or directly when X launches his attacks, allowing him to dodge. (He can read the tregectery and movement quite simply)

Also, the 1000x speed amp is perception; it does grant him combat and reaction speed boost, but to an unknown degree, it does however not affect his movement speed.

Haze will not be a starting move, but rather one he will hide until he thinks he can and deal with a critical blow (likely going for a decapitation)

Is it something that directly messes up with X's perception? If it does, then how far it can go given the starting distance? Otherwise, the invisibility aspect is bypassed.

From the looks of things, his perception is lower than what is granted by "magic sense", thus, he would be incapable of seeing through Haze. (something that only covers himself)

Either way, how can Hakurou damage X-Rider? Still can't figure out? Is it due to Magic?

Aura/battlearts: He covers his sword with "aura", which grants it similar properties to Magic. (Hakurou doesn't use magic after all)

Any more questions? I do hope I cleared up the speed amp misunderstanding, though.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Just gonna be honest and say that I might fumble the huge ball rn, but here's my arguments.

How is Hakurou dodging the Ridol Whip when it doesn't even has enough range to cover the estabilished distance?

I meant Ridol Rope being used as a whip, not the Ridol Whip in it of itself. It can go 30 meters, but the distance is 50, so he kinda has to work through the 20-metre trek first.

Basically, Magic Sense and Heavenly Eyes will be open right at the start (This allows him to fully analyze his movements and actions), he will likely activate his perception amp here, or directly when X launches his attacks, allowing him to dodge. (He can read the tregectery and movement quite simply)

It's funny to think that Hakurou would try read X like a book when he's just riding on his bike to cross the 20-metre gap. Anyways, I'm not really sure how those from Slime Isekai can fight off-verse when there's no magicules being produced by their opponents or the surroundings. Even if say, living force can produce these, X is a cyborg through and through (no longer human basically). How would Hakurou function against one without magicule?

Also, the 1000x speed amp is perception; it does grant him combat and reaction speed boost, but to an unknown degree, it does however not affect his movement speed.

It's not really the same, but X basically has this but toned down and all the amps are unknown across the board too. Even if he loses in the perception speed department, maybe he'd be evenly matched with the opponent in other speed types.

From the looks of things, his perception is lower than what is granted by "magic sense", thus, he would be incapable of seeing through Haze. (something that only covers himself)

Can't say X's perception would be lower, since from the description alone, what he can pick up on matches what stimuli would be picked up my Magic Sense users, albeit differently, one that doesn't include picking up magic particles in the surroundings. Although, X have fought two opponents that go invisible, so he'll be on his best guard against something like Haze, in the event he can't immediately bypass it like how he did those enemies.

Aura/battlearts: He covers his sword with "aura", which grants it similar properties to Magic. (Hakurou doesn't use magic after all)

Checked the magic page, and it's a bit too vague to know what exactly causes what I assume dura neg (?). Need some explanation, chief. Assuming that they have almost identical NPI, not sure whether he can tank it like normal, but his weaponry can sure block and/or parry the attacks.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

It's funny to think that Hakurou would try read X like a book when he's just riding on his bike to cross the 20-metre gap. Anyways, I'm not really sure how those from Slime Isekai can fight off-verse when there's no magicules being produced by their opponents or the surroundings. Even if say, living force can produce these, X is a cyborg through and through (no longer human basically). How would Hakurou function against one without magicule?

That is actually funny, Since The magicules coming out from Hakurou will be more than enough for it to function as normal. (Hell, his abilities and aura could be straight out deadly, since Magicules is naturally dangerous to thus with a low concentration of it of it, and in some cases even straight out erased them...

It should be noted that in Tensura, everything is "alive", even the ground, and everything possesses some level of magicules, since it can't exist without it (in the cardinal world).

Also, magicules passively interfere with technology, degrading it over time.

It's not really the same, but X basically has this but toned down and all the amps are unknown across the board too. Even if he loses in the perception speed department, maybe he'd be evenly matched with the opponent in other speed types.

Good to know.

Can't say X's perception would be lower, since from the description alone, what he can pick up on matches what stimuli would be picked up my Magic Sense users, albeit differently, one that doesn't include picking up magic particles in the surroundings. Although, X have fought two opponents that go invisible, so he'll be on his best guard against something like Haze, in the event he can't immediately bypass it like how he did those enemies.

"Magic sense" doesn't simply stimulate their own senses, but rather allows the user to transform "movements" in light and sound waves, into "data" that is understandable for its user, by watching how it interacts with magicules.

I think you misunderstand a bit how Haze works; it doesn't just make one go invisible. It completely hides their presence, this includes sight, sound, temperature, scent, aura, spirit, and finally makes them no longer interact with magicules. (I am trying to explain it without sounding like I am fully going wank-mode...)

But to explain it simply, it is like they have disappeared from space-time, since they no longer leave traces.

So yeah, Haze will be extremely hard to avoid, but still possible.

Checked the magic page, and it's a bit too vague to know what exactly causes what I assume dura neg (?). Need some explanation, chief. Assuming that they have almost identical NPI, not sure whether he can tank it like normal, but his weaponry can sure block and/or parry the attacks.

Basically, it doesn't just attack the physical body, but the spiritual body as well, so his attacks don't just "hit" the physical body, but someone's soul as well. (If you want me to explain this better, feel free to ask)

But see it like this, his "Sword attacks" are not just physical, but also spiritual.

But yeah, blocking and parrying will be viable.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

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Something that is worth asking, if the Kamen Rider "armour" is elastic/bendable, or fully "stable" (whatever the correct word is)
[Does it "move" when attacked?]

 

[Shadowslash125]

That is actually funny, Since The magicules coming out from Hakurou will be more than enough for it to function as normal. (Hell, his abilities and aura could be straight out deadly, since Magicules is naturally dangerous to thus with a low concentration of it of it, and in some cases even straight out erased them...

It should be noted that in Tensura, everything is "alive", even the ground, and everything possesses some level of magicules, since it can't exist without it (in the cardinal world).

Also, magicules passively interfere with technology, degrading it over time.

How fast can the effects start appearing?

"Magic sense" doesn't simply stimulate their own senses, but rather allows the user to transform "movements" in light and sound waves, into "data" that is understandable for its user, by watching how it interacts with magicules.

Basically, it just makes it more digestible to the user, good to know.

I think you misunderstand a bit how Haze works; it doesn't just make one go invisible. It completely hides their presence, this includes sight, sound, temperature, scent, aura, spirit, and finally makes them no longer interact with magicules. (I am trying to explain it without sounding like I am fully going wank-mode...)

But to explain it simply, it is like they have disappeared from space-time, since they no longer leave traces.

So yeah, Haze will be extremely hard to avoid, but still possible.

An easier analogy would be as if they're like Madara's Limbo puppets, I figure.
X would be tipped off if his opponent randomly disappears mid-combat.
Is there anything stopping X from just bypassing his Haze like how he does those two invisible opponents?
And even when he's completely able to hide himself like so, I'm not sure whether he'll be able to hide the effects that he has on the environment, like say footprints or the air flow being cut off by his hidden body or the wavelengths emitted from X himself.
Actually, shouldn't he be able to be picked up by something like a radar?

Something that is worth asking, if the Kamen Rider "armour" is elastic/bendable, or fully "stable" (whatever the correct word is)
[Does it "move" when attacked?]

IRL it's just spandex lol. In-universe however, it's kinda different, depending on the rider. Most of the Showa Riders are cyborgs, so that's basically their bodies that are 'armor'. So I imagine they'll be stable or soemthing, not sure. Why do you ask?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

How fast can the effects start appearing?

Be prepared! The answer is.... Unknown...

It basically depends on concentration; it takes less time, becomes stronger, and gains more abilities, the stronger the concentration. Here is the current accepted stuff.

Basically, it just makes it more digestible to the user, good to know.

More or less.

Is there anything stopping X from just bypassing his Haze like how he does those two invisible opponents?

That depends, how does he bypass them?

And even when he's completely able to hide himself like so, I'm not sure whether he'll be able to hide the effects that he has on the environment, like say footprints or the air flow being cut off by his hidden body or the wavelengths emitted from X himself.

That's the thing, it doesn't leave any "traces" on the environment. (This is down to the spiritual level)

Actually, shouldn't he be able to be picked up by something like a radar?

I don't think so, since he has no physical traces.

IRL it's just spandex lol. In-universe however, it's kinda different, depending on the rider. Most of the Showa Riders are cyborgs, so that's basically their bodies that are 'armor'. So I imagine they'll be stable or soemthing, not sure. Why do you ask?

It should be explained by the image I sent you. [Link here - Basically just trying to explain how the Spiritual body works]

I also explained how his NPI works, but attacks the Material, Astral, and spiritual body at the same time.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Ok so I had a nice fireside chat with Dark_Soul on discord, and I've got a few things to add here.
X might die from just the hit of the sword, since it damages his astral body that houses his soul. Think like popping a balloon, one pop, and all the air flows out. About whether he can sense it coming to him...

That depends, how does he bypass them?

Uhhhhhh as someone who hasn't watched X, he just focuses then suddenly they appear back again.
It'd be much easier considering X will likely see him disappear in the first place.

That's the thing, it doesn't leave any "traces" on the environment. (This is down to the spiritual level)

Environment sure, then how about the infrared stuff that X would passively emit to find shit or something? Those don't seem to be part of the environment nor fit the magicule passing thing.

Zeed's more experienced in the Showa department ngl.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

X might die from just the hit of the sword, since it damages his astral body that houses his soul. Think like popping a balloon, one pop, and all the air flows out. About whether he can sense it coming to him...

Lovely, a "who one-shots first match".... At least it will be interesting.

Uhhhhhh as someone who hasn't watched X, he just focuses then suddenly they appear back again.
It'd be much easier considering X will likely see him disappear in the first place.

I don't think that will work, since it's far more than just invisibility

Environment sure, then how about the infrared stuff that X would passively emit to find shit or something? Those don't seem to be part of the environment nor fit the magicule passing thing.

....
Are you claiming that infra-red is not a "light-wave"? Basically, any kind of light would be detectable with mana perception. (This sounded a lot meaner than I intended)

Zeed's more experienced in the Showa department ngl.

Would love to also have him here.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Not gonna lie, I don't understand what you mean by this? What does dodging have to do with range here?

Shadow explained above. The argument of "X attacks with Ridol Whip and Hakurou dodges and amps" doesn't make sense here because of the assumed range, he has no melee or ranged offensives that goes past 30 meters.

Basically, Magic Sense and Heavenly Eyes will be open right at the start (This allows him to fully analyze his movements and actions), he will likely activate his perception amp here, or directly when X launches his attacks, allowing him to dodge. (He can read the tregectery and movement quite simply)

But has he done it from a distance enough to affect X-Rider from beyond several meters? Hakurou has only EMR, which means X-Rider can just attack him while outside of the ability's range.

I think you misunderstand a bit how Haze works; it doesn't just make one go invisible. It completely hides their presence, this includes sight, sound, temperature, scent, aura, spirit, and finally makes them no longer interact with magicules. (I am trying to explain it without sounding like I am fully going wank-mode...)

But to explain it simply, it is like they have disappeared from space-time, since they no longer leave traces.

Then he shouldn't have Invisibility, if he rather changes one's perception be unable to be seen rather than becoming invisible by himself.

Basically, it doesn't just attack the physical body, but the spiritual body as well, so his attacks don't just "hit" the physical body, but someone's soul as well. (If you want me to explain this better, feel free to ask)

Showa Riders can damage spirits (and their vessels) with casual strikes, and they're all able to fight each other. It wouldn't be too much different from being attacked normally. (Another reason why I am hesitant to use any Rider right now due to their physiology page being outdated by a ton, technically not even 7-D erasure should work on souls as they can live within the Void).

 

[Shadowslash125]

But has he done it from a distance enough to affect X-Rider from beyond several meters? Hakurou has only EMR, which means X-Rider can just attack him while outside of the ability's range.

It's more of a sight amp, so whether he'd be able to do this to X depends on if he can see him from far away. So if he's able to see X, then yes.
I feel like the imposter in among us cuz I'm defending Hakurou lol

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Shadow explained above. The argument of "X attacks with Ridol Whip and Hakurou dodges and amps" doesn't make sense here because of the assumed range, he has no melee or ranged offensives that goes past 30 meters.

Ah, that makes more sense.

But has he done it from a distance enough to affect X-Rider from beyond several meters? Hakurou has only EMR, which means X-Rider can just attack him while outside of the ability's range.

The minimum range that we know of for Magic Sense is hundreds of meters. This comes from Slime Rimuru directly after he reincarnates. Heavenly Eye is superior to magic sense in every way, so yeah, I don't think range will be an issue.

But if you mean actual attacks? Then yeah, he will need to get much closer, something he can do by activating "haze", and rushing in for the kill.

Then he shouldn't have Invisibility, if he rather changes one's perception be unable to be seen rather than becoming invisible by himself.

It was added at the request of people in my CRT. Originally, it was mainly just perception manipulation and stealth.

Showa Riders can damage spirits (and their vessels) with casual strikes, and they're all able to fight each other. It wouldn't be too much different from being attacked normally. (Another reason why I am hesitant to use any Rider right now due to their physiology page being outdated by a ton, technically not even 7-D erasure should work on souls as they can live within the Void).

Yeah, Hakurou will get 1 tapped if he is hit.

I am doing this since I thought it would actually be a balanced and fun matchup, and let's be honest, what profiles aren't outdated....

It's more of a sight amp, so whether he'd be able to do this to X depends on if he can see him from far away. So if he's able to see X, then yes.
I feel like the imposter in among us cuz I'm defending Hakurou lol

Pretty much.

 

[AlexSamDen]

@Dark_Soul20189 Can you post threads that you make in GD? It's pretty frustrating when I only find out about them after a day or more through tag checking

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

@Dark_Soul20189 Can you post threads that you make in GD? It's pretty frustrating when I only find out about them after a day or more through tag checking

You mean this?

Gazel Dwargo (Tensura Light Novel) Profile "fix"

Hello, welcome back to my first actual CRT for a decent amount of time (not counting downgrades) This again is a new profile fix or clean up, whatever you wanna call it. I will propose the new Scans in both Scan and Quote formats to make it easier to evaluate. Most of these are just for Gazel...

vsbattles.com

It has not yet been fully implemented since I got sick.

Also what do you mean by "GD"? If you mean posting in the general verse thread, I did do that here.

 

[AlexSamDen]

You mean this?

Gazel Dwargo (Tensura Light Novel) Profile "fix"

Hello, welcome back to my first actual CRT for a decent amount of time (not counting downgrades) This again is a new profile fix or clean up, whatever you wanna call it. I will propose the new Scans in both Scan and Quote formats to make it easier to evaluate. Most of these are just for Gazel...

vsbattles.com

It has not yet been fully implemented since I got sick.

Also what do you mean by "GD"? If you mean posting in the general verse thread, I did do that here.

I meant both CRTs and VS threads

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I meant both CRTs and VS threads

Just stop sending non-relevant messages here.

 

[AlexSamDen]

Just stop sending non-relevant messages here.

It is relevant, as it would mean that this thread will be found by supporters more easily. Plus it's recommended in thread creation pages

Anyways, what about Coercion? As far as I'm concerned Kamen doesn't have SW on profile

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

It is relevant, as it would mean that this thread will be found by supporters more easily. Plus it's recommended in thread creation pages

I would prefer having the arguments down before linking it there.

Anyways, what about Coercion? As far as I'm concerned Kamen doesn't have SW on profile

First of all, Coercion is basically just them flaring their aura to intimidate, it wouldn't really work on someone so much stronger...

Second of all, I don't think Hakurou tends to use it in a fight, since he prefers to catch his opponents off guard. So even if he had it, I don't think he would have used it.

 

[AlexSamDen]

First of all, Coercion is basically just them flaring their aura to intimidate, it wouldn't really work on someone so much stronger...

Nope, it's a skill that uses voice to intimidate. It is resisted by willpower and not strengh. Plus it's effects are more powerful, the closer the target is.

Second of all, I don't think Hakurou tends to use it in a fight, since he prefers to catch his opponents off guard. So even if he had it, I don't think he would have used it.

Analysis says hi, once he realises that he doesn't have the means to shrug it off, he won't hesitate

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Nope, it's a skill that uses voice to intimidate. It is resisted by willpower and not strengh. Plus it's effects are more powerful, the closer the target is.

Can you please show any instance where this is true? I don't think I have ever seen the skill be used on someone equal or stronger.

Analysis says hi, once he realises that he doesn't have the means to shrug it off, he won't hesitate

First of all, Hakurou doesn't have Analysis... Second of all, as mentioned earlier, it doesn't fit with his fighting style, nor will it likely work.

 

[AlexSamDen]

Can you please show any instance where this is true? I don't think I have ever seen the skill be used on someone equal or stronger.

Maybe, just maybe, everyone who is stronger in a f*cking willpower-based verse already resists it?

Plus

Coercion: Enables the user to intimidate a range of targets. Scales to the strength of the user and the targets' ability to resist it, the effects range from feeling hostility to feeling fear up to losing consciousness.

It's only the user's own strength (not the relation between two opponents) and target's abilities to resist (which are none) + the fandom wiki

First of all, Hakurou doesn't have Analysis...

It's you who mentioned it in the OP..

Second of all, as mentioned earlier, it doesn't fit with his fighting style, nor will it likely work.

So you are saying that if Hakurou gets a way to defeat his opponent he won't use it? Another thing is that when the fight is prolonged (which it is very likely to be if we don't agree on a wincon), Hakurou just starts using every trick he has

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Maybe, just maybe, everyone who is stronger in a f*cking willpower-based verse already resists it?

Great! Now, please provide the evidence I asked for, oh, wait, it doesn't exist.

Plus

I know the verse; I have been here long enough.

It's only the user's own strength (not the relation between two opponents) and target's abilities to resist (which are none) + the fandom wiki

Yep, your own conclusions again.

It's you who mentioned it in the OP..

Then read it correctly.

So you are saying that if Hakurou gets a way to defeat his opponent he won't use it? Another thing is that when the fight is prolonged (which it is very likely to be if we don't agree on a wincon), Hakurou just starts using every trick he has

Not even close, what I am saying is that it wouldn't be within his fighting style, SBA makes the user still have their own "style of fighting", he is not bloodlusted,

 

[AlexSamDen]

Great! Now, please provide the evidence I asked for, oh, wait, it doesn't exist.

Oh, wait, we give resistance to coercion under this premise that entirely works based off verse's willpower mechanichs and naturally these instances wouldn't exist. However due to it working from verse mechanics, there is no guarantee that it won't work on an opponent from another who has no SW

I know the verse; I have been here long enough.

And yet you still sometimes mess up or forget things

Yep, your own conclusions again.

Yep, the English grammar interpretation

Then read it correctly.

Hmm, I wonder how I need to treat this

Senses and info analysis

Not even close, what I am saying is that it wouldn't be within his fighting style, SBA makes the user still have their own "style of fighting", he is not bloodlusted,

Would you read the second part please?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Oh, wait, we give resistance to coercion under this premise that entirely works based off verse's willpower mechanichs and naturally these instances wouldn't exist. However due to it working from verse mechanics, there is no guarantee that it won't work on an opponent from another who has no SW

That's an NLF.

And yet you still sometimes mess up or forget things

complete and utter irrelevant
.

Yep, the English grammar interpretation

Also, an unnecessary comment.

Hmm, I wonder how I need to treat this

Idk, maybe read the profiles before commenting.

Would you read the second part please?

I did.