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Kaidou vs Superman (Post-Crisis) [3-11-0]

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They have high density, and Kaidou literally used them to cover his entire body for his final attack
I mean, the point still remains that can Kaido prevent an upwards force rather than resist gravity. Because if he's just moving up then the clouds lift become a detriment more than a help.

EDIT: Adding on to this, characters in One Piece such as Enel and the Automota have been shown to survive in space, so Kaidou (the world's strongest creature) could likely do the same.
Are they the same species? Because biological functions are different from just being stronger.

Even if he could survive in space, I don't see how he survives a fight without the ability to move around properly.
 
That's not a very constructive point. You can disagreement with an assessment without being rude.
If something is dumb I would simply called it dumb, Kaido's only advantage in this match is Lifting Strength, as he gets beat in literally every other category, he doesn't hold even the AP advantage considering that Superman can just stat amp himself to just be stronger than Kaido by just holding back a little less
 
Also in what sense does haki protecting someone from Whitebeard's garbage vibration manipulation is an "argument" for Kaido defending himself of Superman's dura neg intangibility?
 
Strength, as he gets beat in literally every other category, he doesn't hold even the AP advantage considering that Superman can just stat amp himself to just be stronger than Kaido
I'm not entirely sure if the stat amps you're describing will work out, since that's the way Superman gets to 2-C which is restricted. But if he scales to 50x the 23 Zettatons feat I guess his peak would still be higher.

Also in what sense does haki protecting someone from Whitebeard's garbage vibration manipulation is an "argument" for Kaido defending himself of Superman's dura neg intangibility?
If you can negate vibration manipulation you can negate Superman's vibration manipulation unless you can prove a layered resistance for Superman.
 
I'm not entirely sure if the stat amps you're describing will work out, since that's the way Superman gets to 2-C which is restricted. But if he scales to 50x the 23 Zettatons feat I guess his peak would still be higher.
Chariot already explained things over Qawsedf234, your "arguments" are mediocre.
And once you explain how using Whitebeard's trash vibration manipulation as an actual argument makes sense I wouldn't take your garbage "explanation" seriously
 
I'm questioning his "reasoning" of defending Kaido's false "wincons" and agreeing with Kachon's dumb "arguments", not about him voting for Superman, like I literally voted for Sups here because of obvious reasons.
Actually read the conversation before posting stuff like this.
I did, I was just confused because, to me, you weren't very clear with what you were disagreeing with in several of your posts.
 
Chariot already explained things over Qawsedf234
Chariot explanation was what I was responding to since you haven't made an argument. It's also why I acknowledged with the 50x thing.

And once you explain how using Whitebeard's trash vibration manipulation as an actual argument makes sense
Whitebeard's powers work by vibrating space to Crack or shake things apart. While it wouldn't prevent phasing through objects maybe, it would negate Superman's attempting to shake Kaido apart like with Cyborg-Superman.
Like your own?
Whwt do you mean? Everyone's knows that the best arguments is adding nothing to the conversation while calling people's points trash or mediocre.
 
Kachon's arguments are garbage, still Chariot's piece was more than enough
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Buddy, you're a Warhammer fan, you can't act like that
I don't touch the tabletop, I'm not THAT financially bereft of IQ.

But honestly if I ever wanted to give myself brain damage, I'd climb to the heights of the effort it takes to actually go through a match like this and make several paragraphs looking through the matchup, and then take a leaping dive towards your arguments like Kratos.
 
Are they the same species? Because biological functions are different from just being stronger.

Even if he could survive in space, I don't see how he survives a fight without the ability to move around properly.
I can answer that. Enel is a Birkan, a type of Skypeople who lived in the city Birka. Said city mysteriously shares a name with one found on the moon. While not outright confirmed, there is obviously very heavy implications that Enel's people just originated from the moon in the first place hence his ability to survive there (there is another race in One Piece implied to have similar origins, though again due to lack of history we have nothing concrete.)

The Automata are a irrelevant example, they are literally robots built on the moon. Them being robots is excuse enough to make it inapplicable to anyone else.

For reasoning on why characters by default can't survive in space, we can find it in the exact same arc as Enel. The main cast straight up needed to adapt to the oxygen shortage that came from the high Skypian skies, if they had the same Self-Sustenance as Enel they wouldn't be effected by that change due to not needing oxygen. They can handle a thinner amount of air, but a complete lack of it they cannot

Edit: I just went to double check my One Piece mythology, yeah the Skypieans, Shandorians, and Birkans are just outright confirmed to be from the moon lol. They are not applicable to scale to the rest of the cast.
 
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I don't touch the tabletop, I'm not THAT financially bereft of IQ.

But honestly if I ever wanted to give myself brain damage, I'd climb to the heights of the effort it takes to actually go through a match like this and make several paragraphs looking through the matchup, and then take a leaping dive towards your arguments like Kratos.
I didn't really made any arguments anyways, I just was questioning dumb ones
 
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I literally helped to ban a transphobe in the past wtf
 
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As someone who's PFP is a Grim Reaper, who's name is DaReaperMan, and who supports verses like Warhammer, Bloodborne, and Darksiders, and who played Reaper in Overwatch 1... @Zyurtunder13 you are an edgelord lmfao
 
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