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Kaidou vs Superman (Post-Crisis) [3-11-0]

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  • Both at Low 5-B (Kaidou scales to 24 zettatons | Superman scales to 23 zettatons)
  • Anything 2-C for Superman is restricted.
  • Speed Equal
  • SBA

Kaidou: 3 (Kachon, DaMonkeMan, LegendariumOfLies)

Superman: 11 (Superscharbe, Purgy, SharkBook1, CastoriceTheFifth, ShiftCtrlAltDelete, Ozcantabak, Harith0cell, Zyurtunder13, Arkenis, DaReaperMan, Qawsedf)

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Kaidou has very high damage reduction thanks to his scales and even higher vitality + endurance as an Oni and Zoan fruit user. If the fight ends up being a slugfest on whoever falls first, I'm confident in betting that Kaidou would be the last man standing.
 
Yeah it doesn't seem like Superman has any major advantages that tips the scales here. He seems to be able to look at an opponents molecular and genetic makeup but not sure how useful it is here. Kaidou can so something similar with Haki (although maybe not to that extent), but their senses are about the same, Kaidou has way more variety thanks to Haki doesn't really matter though. Kaidou can also see glimpses into the future, and also straight up see the future. And most importantly for a fight like this, his stamina is easily, easily more impressive than Superman's. Superman is likely going down before Kaidou as I see it.


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  • Energy Manipulation, Heat Manipulation, Radiation Manipulation and Statistics Amplification (As shown with Superman[30], Super-Man Zero[31], Jonathan Samuel Kent[32] and Supergirl[33], Kryptonians are capable of using their Superflare, an ability that allows them to create a gigantic omnidirectional blast of solar radiation around them[34]. This ability is stated to be comparable to a supernova[35][Note/Explanation 1]. The Superflare is thousands of time more powerful than Heat Vision[36])
This could kill Kaidou if it lands. Superflare is 1 billion Celsius according to the Kryptonian Physiology page
 
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  • Energy Manipulation, Heat Manipulation, Radiation Manipulation and Statistics Amplification (As shown with Superman[30], Super-Man Zero[31], Jonathan Samuel Kent[32] and Supergirl[33], Kryptonians are capable of using their Superflare, an ability that allows them to create a gigantic omnidirectional blast of solar radiation around them[34]. This ability is stated to be comparable to a supernova[35][Note/Explanation 1]. The Superflare is thousands of time more powerful than Heat Vision[36])
This could kill Kaidou if it lands. Superflare is 1 billion Celsius according to the Kryptonian Physiology page
Likely not. Kaidou tanked Law's Gamma Knife directly to the heart, which is dura neg (with radiation)
 
The other concerns I have is Superman's power null, and considering the man love his eye laser, it could be a bad thing to deal with
But then again, Observation Haki can deal with the blast so I dunno
 
Could Kaido take dipping into the sun? Superman can taking dipping into the sun, and heat vision the same level as his can harm him
 
normally i'd be very stingy and argue "Haki lol"

but solar flare one billion C...

theres no hakis for dat...
 
Monkey just badly worded it lol.

Like, badly.

Horribly.

But anyways, back on the matchup

With the skilldiff alone Kaido is gonna be getting mollywhopped im pretty sure
yeah I figured, Supes also has f*** you enhanced senses that lowkey might just cover CoO so there's that too
 
dont really see a wincon for big Kaido

would like it better if it was an OP character with sum' actual competent hax (other than Haki carrying the resistances... which uh, there aint many things here to resist, Supes ain't a hax demon lol)
 
Kaidou's durability is over double Supes' AP and he can increase it vastly with Haki and other amps.
Dc skill merchants are stupid and Supes happens to be one of them in this iteration

still rooting for kaido here though until chariot shows up
 
Kaidou's durability is over double Supes' AP and he can increase it vastly with Haki and other amps.
Supes tremendously upscales the 23 ZT value, as the feat that value comes from was done by individual Lanterns casually (literally 0 effort from their end) dragging a planet around at 2% charge, and pre-death Supes operates on a level above teambusters of groups of high-tier Lanterns all at 100% charge and fighting for their lives. He also has subconscious statistics amplification which can’t be restricted, so he’ll always end up stronger here.
 
1. Superflare is not a threat. Kaidou can see several seconds into the future and he has the ability to release his own omnidirectional shockwave with over 2x the AP of the Superflare. That would stop the heat from ever reaching him.

2. Kaidou is far faster. Speed is equalized to base, meaning that at his peak Kaidou would be 12x faster than Superman, which he can increase even further with blitz attacks and higher variants. Kaidou can see the future so no attack is getting to him.

3. Kaidou also has Advanced Busōshoku Haki which makes a barrier of emitted Haki, which has proven to be able to block heat. Unless Superman has higher AP than Kaidou's Buso Emission (he doesn't as Kaidou has the 2x advantage), no heat from Superflare is getting through, it's just getting deflected by its attack reflection.

4. Kaidou can create several tens of kilometers of Flame Clouds that are big enough and dense enough to rip up an entire island from bedrock and carry it across the skies for several hours. They have higher durability than the AP of a Superflare, and Kaidou has been shown to be able to coat his entire body in this. He would not effected in this case, as they could cushion the drop of an island from hundreds of kilometers in the air.


Supes tremendously upscales the 23 ZT value, as the feat that value comes from was done by individual Lanterns casually (literally 0 effort from their end) dragging a planet around at 2% charge, and pre-death Supes operates on a level above teambusters of groups of high-tier Lanterns all at 100% charge and fighting for their lives. He also has subconscious statistics amplification which can’t be restricted, so he’ll always end up stronger here.
Kaidou also severely upscales from his 24 ZT value. Luffy, who was already > the 24 ZT due to statements and was fully incapable of doing anything to this version of Kaidou. Each one of his attacks nearly KO'd him before he even went all out. In his bulked form, which he can spam, Kaidou becomes much stronger (in value he far upscales over 2x). Luffy at his strongest couldn't even hurt Kaidou and this is after Luffy's passive stat amp. Kaidou would break through Luffy's layered defenses and completely stonewall him until he used his final attack or dura neg (although the latter didn't do much).

I'll leave my vote for Kaidou.
 
Kaidou is far faster. Speed is equalized to base, meaning that at his peak Kaidou would be 12x faster than Superman, which he can increase even further with blitz attacks and higher variants. Kaidou can see the future so no attack is getting to him.
Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.
  • As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
 
1. Superflare is not a threat. Kaidou can see several seconds into the future and he has the ability to release his own omnidirectional shockwave with over 2x the AP of the Superflare. That would stop the heat from ever reaching him.


2. Kaidou is far faster. Speed is equalized to base, meaning that at his peak Kaidou would be 12x faster than Superman, which he can increase even further with blitz attacks and higher variants. Kaidou can see the future so no attack is getting to him.

3. Kaidou also has Advanced Busōshoku Haki which makes a barrier of emitted Haki, which has proven to be able to block heat. Unless Superman has higher AP than Kaidou's Buso Emission (he doesn't as Kaidou has the 2x advantage), no heat from Superflare is getting through, it's just getting deflected by its attack reflection.


4. Kaidou can create several tens of kilometers of Flame Clouds that are big enough and dense enough to rip up an entire island from bedrock and carry it across the skies for several hours. They have higher durability than the AP of a Superflare, and Kaidou has been shown to be able to coat his entire body in this. He would not effected in this case, as they could cushion the drop of an island from hundreds of kilometers in the air.



Kaidou also severely upscales from his 24 ZT value. Luffy, who was already > the 24 ZT due to statements and was fully incapable of doing anything to this version of Kaidou. Each one of his attacks nearly KO'd him before he even went all out. In his bulked form, which he can spam, Kaidou becomes much stronger (in value he far upscales over 2x). Luffy at his strongest couldn't even hurt Kaidou and this is after Luffy's passive stat amp. Kaidou would break through Luffy's layered defenses and completely stonewall him until he used his final attack or dura neg (although the latter didn't do much).

I'll leave my vote for Kaidou.
Just watch chariot or some other DC supporter look at this and start listing skill slop 😭
 
Speed is equalized to base, meaning that at his peak Kaidou would be 12x faster than Superman
I made a mistake. The OP mentions that Kaidou is 24 ZT, meaning he starts in his hybrid, not base. Kaidou is still >4x faster than Superman at his peak. The amps still apply.
 
Well Superman is like, really strong, like super duper strong, so I think he wins tbh
 
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