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Ending the debate once and for all

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Omni-Man (TV Series)

Nolan Grayson is the father of up and coming superhero Mark Grayson, who’s also known as Invincible. He is a Viltrumite who was assigned custody over Earth from his home world, Viltrum. For 23 years he’s served as one of Earth’s greatest and most powerful heroes under the moniker of Omni-Man...
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Conquest (TV Series)

Conquest is a notable antagonist in Invincible, serving as the antagonist of Season 3's final episode. He is a high-ranking Viltrumite veteran warrior and among the most powerful of the Viltrum Empire, who aids the Viltrumite mission to make it the only empire in the universe. Tier: At least Low...
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This comes down to 'Is Conquest so strong that he can overcome Nolan being Viltrum's premier foot soldier?' Or I guess, 'Is Nolan being the Viltrum Empire's most elite soldier enough to overcome Conquest's strength advantage?'
 
In-verse statements confirm Conquest is stronger than Nolan. Both characters pretty much have the same amount of things to work with so I'm going Conquest off of being a stronger Nolan.
 
Not "a stronger Nolan." A stronger Viltrumite, yeah. Nolan has more to work in that he's treated as a highly valued scout while Conquest is treated like an attack dog (implied in what the show has already adapted and shown directly in the comics)
 
So experience vs In-Verse statements strength. However Feats > Statements.
I still think Nolan takes this extreme diff. His combat skill should pay off. Plus, do yall forget that conquest jobs in his fights? Omni-man should take this.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
So experience vs In-Verse statements strength. However Feats > Statements.
I still think Nolan takes this extreme diff. His combat skill should pay off. Plus, do yall forget that conquest jobs in his fights? Omni-man should take this.
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I think Nolan wins extreme diff, but Conquest jobbing against Mark is primarily because he did not at all feel threatened until the end of their fight

Against Nolan, he'll likely take the threat of defeat seriously from the start
 
The narrative is that he's stronger. As far as we can tell right now, it's not by much. One can make plenty good arguments that Nolan can take this by being a better fighter and having a more pragmatic approach to combat
 
Conquest won't fight someone he knows is strong like Nolan the same way he toyed with Mark, who he didn't recognize as a threat until after he'd already been seriously injured so Nolan winning by being more pragmatic doesn't even work here
 
we are using the show version, not the comics one.
and the show is different from the comics in a few ways, so it is better not to use the comics for example until it happens on the show.
(again, for example, Powerplex is shown to kill a alternate mark, one of the alternate marks who died in the comics is still alive, Oliver is not a sociopath...not that much, and the fight of Conquest LITERRALY has that line).
so i will say that this version of Conquest can win regardless of Nolan experience and pragmatism.
 
Conquest is stronger than anything Cecil has ever seen, which includes Hail Mary, who straight up low diffed Nolan. So voting Conquest.
Nevermind he says the strongest superhuman. But still coting Conquest for That_moron2's reasons.
 
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Why not use the comic where we briefly see them interact ?

He's very much taking his sweet ass time to beat down Nolan
 
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(again, for example, Powerplex is shown to kill a alternate mark, one of the alternate marks who died in the comics is still alive, Oliver is not a sociopath...not that much, and the fight of Conquest LITERRALY has that line).
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And none of that has anything to do with scaling whatsoever

If the reason for doing this with TV versions is "It's what's been shown so far", then why do a match where the result will for certain change lol
 
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If both parties got over 7 votes and haven't got 3 vote gap between them for 72 hours - it's inconclusive
 
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