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Yorozu vs Kashimo (2-0-0)

oh, if you're making a CRT I'll stop making mine. I was gonna make one to remove the random Geto > Miguel bs in Miguel and Geto's profile, along with yorozu's RCT
oh no dont worry about me im gonna be a bit busy in a few potential CRT's and calcs when some things happening rn are done and everythings ok (Hellsing blood system, some kagurabachi and maybe gachiakuta stuff and some Jojo calcs for LS)

So dont worry
 
oh no dont worry about me im gonna be a bit busy in a few potential CRT's and calcs when some things happening rn are done and everythings ok (Hellsing blood system, some kagurabachi and maybe gachiakuta stuff and some Jojo calcs for LS)

So dont worry
I'm still pissed about Miguel being heavy-hitter tier for fighting Gojo for ~8 minutes without black rope. It's nonsense. It annoys me so badly lmfao
 
but still my point stands Miguel is not beating any heavy hitter 🥀
nah, Miguel loses to most of them because the only thing he has is stats and H2H skill. He has no counter to domains, SSK, or hakari just jackpotting over and over and over and over lmao. But he would stomp any of them up close
 
Iz alright, was just a mistake.

true...
like I dont think he has black rope anymore so hes basically just hands


like a worse hakari since he has no RCT, his CT is just a worse jackpot and he has nothing to resist hakaris pain manip (I'd argue enhanced or more potent depending on how Pain Manip is scaled in effectiveness)

Arguably vol 0 Yuta could beat him, if not then culling games pre fight yuta beats him, Maki once she completed her HR but is not fully honed her senses beats him due to SSK and the probably greater LS since Miguel is kind of featless in LS Iirc

Yuji in shinjiku pre awakening just evaporates bros soul
 
nah, Miguel loses to most of them because the only thing he has is stats and H2H skill. He has no counter to domains, SSK, or hakari just jackpotting over and over and over and over lmao. But he would stomp any of them up close
if he stalls long enough

Imo the heavy hitters wincons are easier to do and Hakari is the worst to try and stall against
 
if he stalls long enough

Imo the heavy hitters wincons are easier to do and Hakari is the worst to try and stall against
I think he beats Maki purely cause I don't see Maki hitting him tbh. Sukuna couldn't hit him with dismantle spam, I doubt Maki can touch the guy lmao, but Yuji and Yuta both domain diff, and Hakari just out-endurances while getting his face bashed in and trading hits
 
I think he beats Maki purely cause I don't see Maki hitting him tbh. Sukuna couldn't hit him with dismantle spam, I doubt Maki can touch the guy lmao, but Yuji and Yuta both domain diff, and Hakari just out-endurances while getting his face bashed in and trading hits
not really, if we use current maki then her precog would help her likely negate the small debuff to speed and SSK cant be countered

Also Maki def has the martial arts adv so she arguably can grapple Miguel and apparently she has shockwave generation which could be useful
 
not really, if we use current maki then her precog would help her likely negate the small debuff to speed and SSK cant be countered

Also Maki def has the martial arts adv so she arguably can grapple Miguel and apparently she has shockwave generation which could be useful
it's not about Maki's precog or speed, but nothing Maki can do is harder to avoid than a flurry of invisible high speed slashes
 
With Yorozu and Kashimo the stat comparison is kinda difficult cause we know Heian Sukuna immediately after the Gojo fight was around the same output as the 16F Sukuna that Yorozu fought (and was generally casually above her I feel, but still not stomping her) and that Sukuna stomped Kashimo BUT they probably also got some degree of physical amps beyond Megumi’s body due to their own enhanced state. Kashimo was even if not possessing the upper hand against an immediate post Gojo fight Meguna but the injuries that were healed by the full incarnation may have also nerfed output, so it’s hard to put a number to that specific scaling.


Assuming they’re the same, I think Yorozu holds the advantage in terms of abilities for a few reasons

1)Kashimo‘s cursed energy has the properties of charged particles and can be drawn out of his body beyond output limitations through creating a suitably preferred path outside of his body. This is the mechanism through which his lightning bolts work and how Hakari depleted him of CE by plunging him into salt water. Yorozu has multiple ways of taking advantage of this through her creation ability.

2)Forcing Kashimo to use HWB through activating her domain provides a massive advantage (also notably she can still use the perfect sphere beyond her domain, her domain just makes it auto hit).

3)Can create faraday cages (this might not cancel out the electric field of the lightning bolt but given we don’t see a noticeable streamer when Kashimo uses the lightning it can cancel out the charge he places on or behind his opponent).

4)I think she could stall decently lol.
 
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With Yorozu and Kashimo the stat comparison is kinda difficult cause we know Heian Sukuna immediately after the Gojo fight was around the same output as the 16F Sukuna that Yorozu fought (and was generally casually above her I feel, but still not a stomp) and that Sukuna stomped Kashimo BUT they probably also got some degree of physical amps beyond Megumi’s body due to their own enhanced state. Kashimo was even if not possessing the upper hand against an immediate post Gojo fight Meguna but the injuries that were heard by the full incarnation may have also nerfed output, so it’s hard to put a number to that specific scaling.


Assuming they’re the same, I think Yorozu holds the advantage in terms of abilities for a few reasons

1)Kashimo‘s cursed energy has the properties of charged particles and can be drawn out of his body beyond output limitations through creating a suitably preferred path outside of his body. This is the mechanism through which his lightning bolts work and how Hakari depleted him of CE by plunging him into salt water. Yorozu has multiple ways of taking advantage of this through her creation ability.

2)Forcing Kashimo to use HWB through activating her domain provides a massive advantage (also notably she can still use the perfect sphere beyond her domain, her domain just makes it auto hit).

3)Can create faraday cages (this might not cancel out the electric field of the lightning bolt but given we don’t see a noticeable streamer when Kashimo uses the lightning it can cancel out the charge he places on or behind his opponent).
Other things to note

Yorozu's flight and range def make the fight more in her favor since Kashimo has to rely on H2h if he does want to stay the long term (or if in character he doesnt want to use MBA on one of Sukunas strongest fangirls) and MBA will kill him after using it
 
Other things to note

Yorozu's flight and range def make the fight more in her favor since Kashimo has to rely on H2h if he does want to stay the long term (or if in character he doesnt want to use MBA on one of Sukunas strongest fangirls) and MBA will kill him after using it
Yeah she can stall decently against a guy that can eventually die, I just didn’t use that as my main argument cause we don’t technically know how long Kashimo can go before that. Def voting for Yorozu tho.
 
Yeah she can stall decently against a guy that can eventually die, I just didn’t use that as my main argument cause we don’t technically know how long Kashimo can go before that. Def voting for Yorozu tho.
Yeah thats true but that is an option still

alongside the fact that bug armor boosts her ap and dura aswell w speed and if she pops domain

Kashimo is not tanking that ******* ball that begins to generate infinite pressure after being created
 
How is she surviving the 3 hit combo? Yorozu wont start with her domain or use Perfect Sphere in character

Yorozu having RCT is such a joke lol
 
How is she surviving the 3 hit combo? Yorozu wont start with her domain or use Perfect Sphere in character

Yorozu having RCT is such a joke lol
I thought you left versus battles?

Also anyone who's voted reply to me so I can quickly add your vote. It'll take some time otherwise
 
votin yorozu cause range fuckery and better abilities to beat Kashimo since in character he wont do shit unless he got MBA
Yorozu wouldn't fly away, she fights CQC just like everyone else

She wont use perfect sphere in character and her domain wont be used at the start so what stops Kashimo from getting his 4 hits in?
 
Yorozu wouldn't fly away, she fights CQC just like everyone else

She wont use perfect sphere in character and her domain wont be used at the start so what stops Kashimo from getting his 4 hits in?
Liquid metal and shes not stupid so as soon as Kashimo is shown to her as someone with a unique CE property or just seems like a guy who relies on CQC

Yorozu will move around with Liquid metal to shoot him or bug armor to beat him up
 
Liquid metal and shes not stupid so as soon as Kashimo is shown to her as someone with a unique CE property or just seems like a guy who relies on CQC

Yorozu will move around with Liquid metal to shoot him or bug armor to beat him up
She doesnt have to be stupid, almost always sorcerers start with hand to hand combat to see eachother out. She will get shocked a few times, realise it might be dangerous and right at that moment Kashimo blows her ass up because she has no RCT

She would fly away and abuse range if she somehow knew Kashimo was very lethal in H2H but she does not
 
ShionAh you should've been there for the generational fallout for when the scans of Kashimo being 2nd strongest turned out to be fake.
 
She doesnt have to be stupid, almost always sorcerers start with hand to hand combat to see eachother out. She will get shocked a few times, realise it might be dangerous and right at that moment Kashimo blows her ass up because she has no RCT

She would fly away and abuse range if she somehow knew Kashimo was very lethal in H2H but she does not
thing is she also always accompany her with liquid metal being shot out which should give her a window of escape in case she gets zapped and realizes that its not a good idea to fight a guy with a unique energy property

keep in mind that Kashimo has no positive energy to deny liquid metal and her CT
 
thing is she also always accompany her with liquid metal being shot out which should give her a window of escape in case she gets zapped and realizes that its not a good idea to fight a guy with a unique energy property

keep in mind that Kashimo has no positive energy to deny liquid metal and her CT
Hell being real, if both start a bit away and run towards each other liquid metal could be used to hit or attack kashimo whilst she closes in due to it being tens of meters and needing less conditions to activate
 
Yorozu wouldn't fly away, she fights CQC just like everyone else

She wont use perfect sphere in character and her domain wont be used at the start so what stops Kashimo from getting his 4 hits in?
Her fighting style seems more a mix of CQC and ranged fuckery with liquid metal, but she's definitely going to take a few hits before popping domain or perfect sphere. Hell she might not even use bug armor before Kashimo gets the opportunity to blast her
 
liquid metal could be used to hit or attack kashimo whilst she closes in due to it being tens of meters and needing less conditions to activate
Mf Liquid Metal isnt one shotting Kashimo, he holds a significant H2H skill and shock advantage. She aint avoiding 4 hits.
perfect sphere
She only did this to "show her love" to Sukuna, its like MBA she probably wont use it on other sorcerers
 
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