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Yorozu vs Kashimo (2-0-0)
- Thread starter Catbowtie
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Isn't this just Gojo vs Sukuna except Maho isn't there to save his ass.
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Well, then you know who wins this then.
EldemadeDityjon
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Thanks to Fan Popularity Gojo wins because of more Votes nothing else
EldemadeDityjon
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Maho isn't needed to Beat Gojo neither GoJo nor Sukuna or Gege stated anything about that.
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They don't need to say it if we saw the fight with the Maho caveat
EldemadeDityjon
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We already went over like 3 different threads lol. Gojo ain't leaping without his popularity.
Send the scan where anyone of them said anything about Sukuna losing without Mahoraga or you are just glazing Gojo at this point. Also from your comments I can guess you intentionally made the Match so Gojo can win?
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Lil bro you need to chill tf out. It's your second post and you're already riled up. Stop the accusatory behavior, stop the agenda shit, if you think otherwise actually debate it.
EldemadeDityjon
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Even without Mahoraga Sukuna was winning Domain clash he has two hands to change domain condition and use anti domain techniques and end the fight within Domain clash alone he doesn't need to adapt and get hit by UV. There are different ways for Sukuna to win the fight you people are making the headcanon that Sukuna needed MahoragaThey don't need to say it if we saw the fight with the Maho caveat
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You're right he didn't "need" Maho. But without him his chances drop exponentially to the point him winning becomes far less likely.
Like, Jotaro didn't NEED time stop and Goku didn't need SSJ1 to defeat Dio or Frieza, but without it their chances are absolutely miniscule.
EldemadeDityjon
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Not really hating anyone or intended to accuse anyone here but just sad because of popularity and people pushing Gojo agenda. You know you people also didn't started any arguments rather than bringing up Mahoraga? When you yourself didn't presented any arguments why Sukuna would lose without Mahoraga in this case addressing the issues.
Not really. Sukuna doesn't need Maho to do this also. I already addressed how he can protect himself from UV with his two extra hands and anti domain techniques. So I hope you don't post Sukuna bleeding in next panel which is due to him using Mahoraga and having two less hands. Which is not the case for this match up.
Sukuna's case is different though. I'll try to make a single comment later currently outside and here site is not working properly for me.
Anyway if myy comments hurt anyone I apologise. Wasn't intended.
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Sukuna without using Mahoraga to eliminate UV can just win the domain clashes. He was intentionally winning them the hard way, stated by Gojo, and we know it was to stall for Mahoraga. With 4 arms and free usage of Domain Amplification, Gojo won't be able to damage him enough within the 3 minute timeframe he would need to break Sukuna's domain before his own broke. We know this, because Gojo BARELY tied this 3 minute timeframe against a Sukuna who had limited Domain Amplification.
Meaning, Gojo will lose his first 3 domains against Sukuna's first domain (because he will have literally no reason to do anything differently up to this point), and unless Gojo decides to stop Domain Clashing (be real, he's not going to, he'll improvise until he dies) he is losing the majority of the time.
And before the "then why didn't he just do that in the first place?" comments, neither Sukuna or Gojo knew how the fight was going to go. Sukuna wanted to remove UV with Mahoraga because UV is virtually an instant-win if landed. He didn't NEED Mahoraga for anything else.
Unless this Sukuna doesn't have DA, he wins the majority of the time. So I vote Sukuna.
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You're still doing it.
"Popularity this", "agenda that", stop it or I'll be reporting you for arguing in bad faith literally the instant you walk in here.
Yeah because it feels self evident? Without Maho, his best card is gone, which severely limits him and his gameplan and is something Gojo can work around.
If you disagree how about you actually explain so without immediately assuming it's agenda or "he's just popular" as if anyone cares about that in the big 25.
Eden_Warlock99
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Are we trying to give Sukuna a free win
EldemadeDityjon
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The moment you asked me for arguments, I presented them and apologized for my previous behavior. I’ve already explained twice that even without Mahoraga, it’s not an easy fight for Gojo.
I started by saying popularity was being used as a win condition, since that has been the case on several platforms, rather than presenting actual arguments—just saying “Without Mahoraga, Sukuna loses.” I considered this thread to be the same case, since I didn’t see any points addressed and instead it started with a similar approach. The moment I entered this thread all I was seeing same reasons rather than any arguments.Not really. Sukuna doesn't need Maho to do this also. I already addressed how he can protect himself from UV with his two extra hands and anti domain techniques. So I hope you don't post Sukuna bleeding in next panel which is due to him using Mahoraga and having two less hands. Which is not the case for this match up.
If you don’t want me to believe “Without Mahoraga, Sukuna loses” is just an agenda or a popularity argument, then I’d need actual arguments rather than just that.
So, when I say “Gojo wins because of popularity” it’s called bad faith (despite I apologized and presented two replies with proper arguments), but when you say “Gojo wins can work around without Sukuna having Mahoraga” (without further explanation) you just want me to buy that. It’s just considered facts and good faith?
If you still believe what I said was bad faith, feel free to report me. Either we can argue here regarding this match or you are free to report me if my arguments feels like bad faith and if staffs thinks the same and ban me or gives me warning so be it. I don't want to continue who is in good faith or bad faith here.
There is also this guy explained how it's not a easy win for Gojo.
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Yeah and then you immediately did it again same post
I don't care. Don't assume that shit in your FIRST post, then proceed to double down in the following posts.
I don't care, if you disagree actually explain instead of assuming shit's some sort of agenda as if anyone actually cares about it that much, let alone in the big 25.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
Yes actually I do expect that to be in good faith, why tf wouldn't it be?
You don't have to agree with it, no shit you don't, look where you are, why am I even needing to explain that to you? But you sure af gotta explain why instead of assuming everyone is some anti-sukuna dude and they only disagree with your preconceived opinion due to stupid shit like "gojo is popular" or "they don't like sukuna". Like what the hell are you doing dude?
I never accused you of having a Sukuna agenda, I never said "nuh uh it's just sukuna glaze/**********", or anything of the sort right? Nobody did, why would that be the first thought in anyone's head?
So why in the actual hell do you think you get to pull that immediately?
And apologizing, and then in the SAME post right after doubling down, isn't retracting your behavior, it's proving my point.
Then stop with this agenda bullshit, it's that simple
A posted scan saying he might win without him and in repeated DE clashes, Gojo would be in a losing battle.
It goes without saying that wouldn't be the whole fight and Gojo isn't that stupid (I would think) to just keep trying to shove square in circle hole?
EldemadeDityjon
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I don’t know if you’ve seen any of the matches or arguments I’ve been involved in. I’m open to agreeing to disagree with anyone, and I’m open to arguments. Maybe some matches got heated, but in most cases they still reached peaceful conclusions.Yeah and then you immediately did it again same post
I don't care. Don't assume that shit in your FIRST post, then proceed to double down in the following posts.
I don't care, if you disagree actually explain instead of assuming shit's some sort of agenda as if anyone actually cares about it that much, let alone in the big 25.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
I don't care, don't assume, don't accuse, if you disagree explain.
Yes actually I do expect that to be in good faith, why tf wouldn't it be?
You don't have to agree with it, no shit you don't, look where you are, why am I even needing to explain that to you? But you sure af gotta explain why instead of assuming everyone is some anti-sukuna dude and they only disagree with your preconceived opinion due to stupid shit like "gojo is popular" or "they don't like sukuna". Like what the hell are you doing dude?
I never accused you of having a Sukuna agenda, I never said "nuh uh it's just sukuna glaze/**********", or anything of the sort right? Nobody did, why would that be the first thought in anyone's head?
So why in the actual hell do you think you get to pull that immediately?
And apologizing, and then in the SAME post right after doubling down, isn't retracting your behavior, it's proving my point.
Then stop with this agenda bullshit, it's that simple
A posted scan saying he might win without him and in repeated DE clashes, Gojo would be in a losing battle.
It goes without saying that wouldn't be the whole fight and Gojo isn't that stupid (I would think) to just keep trying to shove square in circle hole?
My arguments aren’t meant to say “Gojo doesn’t have any win conditions” or “Gojo is stupid,” but rather to point out that saying Sukuna’s chances are minuscule is wrong—even if Gojo could still win with other plans. Not to mention, Sukuna himself isn’t stupid either.
I haven’t seen a single argument from Gojo’s side that would make me assume things differently, especially since I constantly see his fandom’s behavior and arguments across several platforms and previous threads. My initial comment was the result of that—if the thread had started with decent arguments rather than just saying “Sukuna would lose because he doesn’t have Mahoraga,” I wouldn’t have assumed anything.
If you still believe my behavior is some kind of bad faith, then just report me at this point. I don’t want to continue these pointless conversations any further. I only replied back because I wanted to clarify my actions from my side. Let the staff handle this. I don’t have anything against you or anyone here.
Peace out
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Man this has been rehashed so many times.
Sukuna probably wins, the point where they bust each other’s domain at exactly the same time doesn’t happen if Sukuna is even slightly more capable of not getting beaten up by Gojo (which he is in Heian form) so he just gets to hold his domain without contest. As for the “what if Gojo teleported away” arguments, Sukuna specifically said he’d handle that by closing the domain (which makes sense as Gojo’s teleportation is really just compressing coordinates and doesn’t work if there’s a barrier in the way, plus barriers in JJK seem to be good at handling that given Todo couldn’t do anything to support Yuta while he was in the domain. Yes Sukuna can adjust conditions efficiently enough to achieve this otherwise the domain battle wouldn’t have worked.
Sukuna probably wins, the point where they bust each other’s domain at exactly the same time doesn’t happen if Sukuna is even slightly more capable of not getting beaten up by Gojo (which he is in Heian form) so he just gets to hold his domain without contest. As for the “what if Gojo teleported away” arguments, Sukuna specifically said he’d handle that by closing the domain (which makes sense as Gojo’s teleportation is really just compressing coordinates and doesn’t work if there’s a barrier in the way, plus barriers in JJK seem to be good at handling that given Todo couldn’t do anything to support Yuta while he was in the domain. Yes Sukuna can adjust conditions efficiently enough to achieve this otherwise the domain battle wouldn’t have worked.
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Gojo isn't stupid, just incredibly egotistical. Gojo and Sukuna both are. Gojo isn't going to teleport away and try and spam Purples, he's gonna try new shit to beat Sukuna until he loses or he wins. His first domain shattered INSTANTLY and he tried to get away, but the second he got away after hitting Sukuna with Red, he immediately went back into the domain clash. And lost badly AGAIN. And then tried something new AGAIN.
Gojo vs Sukuna is both of their glory fights, they want to prove they're the strongest, and Gojo clearly doesn't WANT to back off and play it at a distance. It is probably the better strategy considering how fast Purple is, but Gojo in-character is never choosing to do this.
Catbowtie
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I'm ngl I was tired as **** when I made this match. I actually read the Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo match and I was going to genuinely make the same arguments 
My bad @EldemadeDityjon
I changed it to Yorozu vs Kashimo, but I can change it back to Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo if you guys want to continue with that
My bad @EldemadeDityjonI changed it to Yorozu vs Kashimo, but I can change it back to Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo if you guys want to continue with that
EldemadeDityjon
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No problemI'm ngl I was tired as **** when I made this match. I actually read the Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo match and I was going to genuinely make the same arguments
I think this also happened back then. Can't remember
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If we are doing Yorozu vs KashimoI'm ngl I was tired as **** when I made this match. I actually read the Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo match and I was going to genuinely make the same arguments
I changed it to Yorozu vs Kashimo, but I can change it back to Heian Era Sukuna vs Gojo if you guys want to continue with that
Yorozu should take this as base kashimo aint really doing shit due to her ap being kind of underrated (being able to scratch and hit sukuna around with bug armor and construction alongside the obvious mysterious ball of infinite energy)
Additionally domain will screw kashimo over. MBA might help with potentially greater speed and far superior attack speed but Imo Bug armor alongside the greater mobility, RCT, etc makes her more likely to win either by hitting Kashimo w range or w the ball
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People only talk about the infinite pressure but imo Yorozu is kind of underrated
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Off topic
Heians in development and when I played it the last time it was on playtesting it was better than Jujutsu infinite ngl
Catbowtie
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Can we PLEASE get a Roblox game on Jujutsu Kaisen where it's just placed in the Heian Era and it's like the Culling Games where everyone is just running around killing each other? Instead of slop like having Gojo cameo in every single battlegrounds game?
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No.
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Battle Spirit GG?
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Anonymous_Learner
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I think Yorozu got it FRA
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why the hell does yorozu's profile give her RCT. It's a piece of metal smoking from the impact of Sukuna's kick. You can literally see the shadow of the metal plate on her leg. How did they get that so wrong.
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I genuienly did not realize that we might have to remove rct then
Yorozu still stomps Kashimo and waffles him w liquid metal tho
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