Demon King & Arthur Pendragon`s Creation feats

[karo_senpaii]

I thought 2 was enough when a consensus is reached

Meli only used DM to throw his trillion Dark else Arthur stated that the only reason why he damaged him was due to Tristan.

Lancelot is stated to fall short of Meliodas lvl, the sins are considered as a threat to Chaos Arthur as stated by himself.

It's 2 for minor revisions and small verses. This is neither minor nor a small verse.


I was mostly commenting on how it makes no sense for base Mel to scale and not be completely overwhelming authur when he used DM mark. When it's time to scale just bring your scans and you're good. And the sins don't have to scale directly to be a threat. They have several great has, merlin is merlin, gowther has his , i don't even know if it's a group or individual statement. Well that's a separate matter, not for this thread

 

[Makai641001]

It's 2 for minor revisions and small verses. This is neither minor nor a small verse.

Okay mb

I was mostly commenting on how it makes no sense for base Mel to scale and not be completely overwhelming authur when he used DM mark.

A 4x multiplier wouldn’t overwhelm Arthur, he was nerfed by both his son and the fact that he couldn’t let go his power since they were inside of Liones.

When it's time to scale just bring your scans and you're good. And the sins don't have to scale directly to be a threat. They have several great has, merlin is merlin, gowther has his , i don't even know if it's a group or individual statement. Well that's a separate matter, not for this thread

We’ll see this later

 

[Jey-kun52]

It's 2 for minor revisions and small verses. This is neither minor nor a small verse.


I was mostly commenting on how it makes no sense for base Mel to scale and not be completely overwhelming authur when he used DM mark. When it's time to scale just bring your scans and you're good. And the sins don't have to scale directly to be a threat. They have several great has, merlin is merlin, gowther has his , i don't even know if it's a group or individual statement. Well that's a separate matter, not for this thread

I don't think CRT is needed for the scaling of the obvious two. I'll open it for 7ds members. The goal in CRT is to raise the verse. Arthur raises the verse. Base Meli, and Lanc scales to it. There's no debatable situation. There's no implicit narrative in the story. This is necessary for 7ds members. I'll do that later anyway.
And let me state in advance that 7ds members (with 4koa profiles) will scale to 5A, not 4B, the lowest state of chaos in CRT.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I don't think CRT is needed for the scaling of the obvious two. I'll open it for 7ds members. The goal in CRT is to raise the verse. Arthur raises the verse. Base Meli, and Lanc scales to it. There's no debatable situation. There's no implicit narrative in the story. This is necessary for 7ds members. I'll do that later anyway.
And let me state in advance that 7ds members (with 4koa profiles) will scale to 5A, not 4B, the lowest state of chaos in CRT.

Arthur won't have key 5-A

 

[Makai641001]

Arthur won't have key 5-A

Can you make the calc using 1 starry sky and 5 months so we can ask Damage if he agrees

 

[Jey-kun52]

Arthur won't have key 5-A

Bro at least scaling final combo which is 5A it should stay more keys mean more match

 

[Makai641001]

Bro at least scaling final combo which is 5A it should stay more keys mean more match

That’s not how it works tho

 

[karo_senpaii]

Bro at least scaling final combo which is 5A it should stay more keys mean more match

Arthur's 5a key is what would be 4B I think

 

[Jey-kun52]

That’s not how it works tho

Bro u serious final combo is different feat which is included in the scaling chain so it should stay

 

[Jey-kun52]

Arthur's 5a key is what would be 4B I think

We are not using the creations before so 5A is different feat and chaos at least scaling the 5A.

 

[Makai641001]

We are not using the creations before so 5A is different feat and chaos at least scaling the 5A.

No, the key will be replaced

 

[Jey-kun52]

No, the key will be replaced

We are mixing the 7ds and the 4koa keys, ridiculous What is the reason for this? An feat was made in 7ds and one in 4koa. Both are different feats. Why was this removed?

 

[karo_senpaii]

We are mixing the 7ds and the 4koa keys, ridiculous What is the reason for this? An feat was made in 7ds and one in 4koa. Both are different feats. Why was this removed?

It is not removed. It's just irrelevant now because that key would be 4a..the feat would just be a supporting feat on maybe the verse page or something. It's like you adding a country level feat for a planetary character

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Can you make the calc using 1 starry sky and 5 months so we can ask Damage if he agrees

Arthur creates the Eternal Kingdom

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[Jey-kun52]

It is not removed. It's just irrelevant now because that key would be 4a..the feat would just be a supporting feat on maybe the verse page or something. It's like you adding a country level feat for a planetary character

Anyway, I'll shut up, you have a point. Do we agree on scaling the base meliodas and lancelot? I don't think it will be needed since it's not a laborious scaling work, but if you want, I can quickly make one (no matter how lazy I am).

 

[Jey-kun52]

Bump

 

[Makai641001]

Basically - but Saqphire makes a good point and I'll avoid complaining about it on this thread at least.

Bump, do you have any other contentions or you can give your vote and review the calculation ?

Arthur creates the Eternal Kingdom

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[Damage3245]

Bump, do you have any other contentions or you can give your vote and review the calculation ?

I'm not interested at this time. Ask someone else.

 

[Curses0z]

I'm not interested at this time. Ask someone else.

fair,can you tag some staff?? to settle down this

 

[Igneel]

A month should be cool

Just classical logic, if 3000 years is a long time as stated by the narrator in the same panel and the Creation happened quickly we know it took less than 3000 years.

3000 years > Long Long time > Short time = Creations

Yeah but we would use that as a time frame which is why it make no sense

 

[Makai641001]

Yeah but we would use that as a time frame which is why it make no sense

It would be a Huge lowball but also a back up feat that would put aside possible counter arguments on the verse

 

[Igneel]

It would be a Huge lowball but also a back up feat that would put aside possible counter arguments on the verse

Yeah it would be a massive unnecessary low ball. I understand low balls can be necessary but not to that extent it should be a bare minimum a month or a year at most

 

[Makai641001]

Yeah it would be a massive unnecessary low ball. I understand low balls can be necessary but not to that extent it should be a bare minimum a month or a year at most

Dude it’s either you lowball and get something or you don’t and you get nothing.

We aren’t even discussing your OP anymore we are on the verge of getting the upgrade using Neo Camelot you should not interfere with things that derail the current subject

 

[Igneel]

Dude it’s either you lowball and get something or you don’t and you get nothing.

We aren’t even discussing your OP anymore we are on the verge of getting the upgrade using Neo Camelot you should not interfere with things that derail the current subject

Ik we not but I can still say they logic doesn’t add up even if it’s a low ball. There is no logical reasoning to use the opposite of what the narrator said time frame happened just for a calc. Yeah and using 1month or 1 year is valid do to evidence for camolot a creation feat.

 

[Jey-kun52]

Ik we not but I can still say they logic doesn’t add up even if it’s a low ball. There is no logical reasoning to use the opposite of what the narrator said time frame happened just for a calc. Yeah and using 1month or 1 year is valid do to evidence for camolot a creation feat.

Just drop the subject bro. We will talking about this quote next time

 

[Makai641001]

Ik we not but I can still say they logic doesn’t add up even if it’s a low ball. There is no logical reasoning to use the opposite of what the narrator said time frame happened just for a calc. Yeah and using 1month or 1 year is valid do to evidence for camolot a creation feat.

On VSBW you need an actual statement in order to get the timeframe, else you can take additional informations which is what I did using the narrator to back up the fact that it took less than 3000 years…

Guess what it’s not even this feat that we’ll use and 3000 years still is into 4-B.

We need another admin to vote asap so we can get rid of these tier 4 NNT upgrades and focus on abilities.

 

[Igneel]

On VSBW you need an actual statement in order to get the timeframe, else you can take additional informations which is what I did using the narrator to back up the fact that it took less than 3000 years…

Guess what it’s not even this feat that we’ll use and 3000 years still is into 4-B.

We need another admin to vote asap so we can get rid of these tier 4 NNT upgrades and focus on abilities.

Oh yeah I agree it took less than that I ain’t arguing that but to acknowledge it took less than 3k yrs and to then use the 3 k yrs as the time frame already becomes a contradiction and makes the calc less accurate because of the big flaw

The upgrades are needed because whoever does the scaling for the 7ds characters is terribly low balling the verse and even using there own tiering system at times to justifiably scale the characters.

 

[Jey-kun52]

Oh yeah I agree it took less than that I ain’t arguing that but to acknowledge it took less than 3k yrs and to then use the 3 k yrs as the time frame already becomes a contradiction and makes the calc less accurate because of the big flaw

The upgrades are needed because whoever does the scaling for the 7ds characters is terribly low balling the verse and even using there own tiering system at times to justifiably scale the characters.

Pls drop this i will help u after this accepting

 

[Igneel]

Pls drop this i will help u after this accepting

Fine

 

[Jey-kun52]

On VSBW you need an actual statement in order to get the timeframe, else you can take additional informations which is what I did using the narrator to back up the fact that it took less than 3000 years…

Guess what it’s not even this feat that we’ll use and 3000 years still is into 4-B.

We need another admin to vote asap so we can get rid of these tier 4 NNT upgrades and focus on abilities.

wait a min htf 3000 years end still give 4B ?

 

[Majinere566]

The upgrades are needed because whoever does the scaling for the 7ds characters is terribly low balling the verse and even using there own tiering system at times to justifiably scale the characters.

If you genuinely believe the current state of the verse’s scaling is terribly lowball I guess you weren’t here when The God Tiers were Large Island level.

 

[Makai641001]

If you genuinely believe the current state of the verse’s scaling is terribly lowball I guess you weren’t here when The God Tiers were Large Island level.

When Country lvl NNT was a wank…

When Sub relativistic was a joke…

When Chaos was Large Island lvl and scaled at the exact same speed as Season 1 Meliodas…

 

[karo_senpaii]

When Country lvl NNT was a wank…

When Sub relativistic was a joke…

When Chaos was Large Island lvl and scaled at the exact same speed as Season 1 Meliodas…

All top verses been there, the wiki is getting fairer

 

[Jey-kun52]

Can someone tag any admin here? 1left vote

 

[Igneel]

If you genuinely believe the current state of the verse’s scaling is terribly lowball I guess you weren’t here when The God Tiers were Large Island level.

I was still here I now u have reminded me of my ptsd

 

[Jey-kun52]

Bump

 

[Jey-kun52]

B(r)u(h)mp

 

[Jey-kun52]

BUMP

 

[Bossbrosish]

bump

 

[Jey-kun52]

Bumping