I mean it like how we would do to other hax in the wiki.
Overpower duo to AP is not exactly what I mean. Each hax would require 1 layer above the lower level, for example lower level magic haxes having a layer above basic magic, hell lord's haxes having layers above standard demons.
They'd say Supes resists all of Thor's Magical abilities and scales higher via the World Forger and other stuff mentioned above.
Granted, on the flip side, they could use the part where Thor basically ko'd Supes and 2v1 him and another character for a bit in an earlier brawl if they went the direction of Thor winning.
Well, Marvel writers are currently doing their best/worst to undermine Thor and wank certain other characters as much as possible. Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Storm, Legion, Escapade, and Wiccan, are all definitely far more powerful currently, for example.
Ms. MarvelWell, Marvel writers are currently doing their best/worst to undermine Thor and wank certain other characters as much as possible. Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Storm, Legion, Escapade, and Wiccan, are all definitely far more powerful currently, for example.
That's arguable, earlier she was the one who managed to hold Phoenix force Legion.She is not anywhere near as wanked as the examples that I gave, and she is one of the quite few genuinely likeable and ethical Marvel Comics characters.
Also Wiccan used to be a big deal but, it's been a long time since we saw him do anything of note, as for Demiurge he was stated to be capable of changing all magic but now with G.O.D.S where we know the "God of Magic" where does that leave Demiurge?She is not anywhere near as wanked as the examples that I gave, and she is one of the quite few genuinely likeable and ethical Marvel Comics characters.
making him defeat Elder Gods?
Mejed seemed to be a very minor elder god, Kemur was killed by the Eternity Mask, Utgard-Loki was not defeated, Toranos was at the brink of death when Thor finished him with a god-blast, and that writer also depicted Thor being defeated by regular Rigellians and Mister Hyde, completely depowered him, and had the Hulk easily defeat him whereas even the Black Panther was able to do much better, and recently Thor was also oneshotted by Godzilla in a deliberately humiliating and degrading manner, made a pro-tyranny speech during Doctor Doom's global takeover, was offhandedly tortured to death by a Celestial and slaughtered by mutants when written by Kieron Gillen, defeated by Terrax and upstaged by Iceman, his Black Winter feat is deliberately being trivialised by the current Storm writer, and so onwards, along with Brian Bendis stating that "Jews shouldn't write Thor", as if Vikings were somehow retroactively Nazis any more than the many other cultures the Nazis completely bastardised, so my impression is definitely that Marvel Comics writers in general consider Thor too politically incorrect to be allowed to exist without being systematically degraded and humiliated.
In the run Thor literally says that he is as strong as he needs to be, always holding back and that time they had a plan against which he wasn't prepared, they took him by surprise
for a new run I will read where he will probably take his powers back at the end
that happens when fighting in groups, it's usually inconsistent, but Hulk there was overpowering everyone, then they had a rematch in Donny Cates's run of Hulk
that's more showing how strong Godzilla is, in that issue Godzilla humiliates everyone, even a Celestial
he is a king, Doom had become the king of Midgard and from what they knew untile then he was a good king, they discovered later the horrible things he was doing
didn't read this
that's just the author having fun at making Storm the strongest, doesn't have nothing to do with hating Thor and wanting to make him as weak as possible
who is only one writer who doesn't speak for all Marvel comics, since Immortal Thor is a really good story for Thor, which shows how morally elevated he actually is
which is pratically false or he wouldn't have come back in Mortal Thor. Every writer treats the characters how they want, there can be good writers who treat the characters fairly and those who do not.
Unironically I think that fight serves as pretty good evidence that Thor is canonically stronger than Superman.
Brevoort (current Marvel EiC) said on his blog that they wanted to avoid “copouts” during the fights within Avengers/JLA due to the complaints of fans from other crossovers, so he sat with Busiek (the writer), Perez (the artist), and Dan Raspler (DC editor, Brevoort’s counterpart at the time) in a room and they all simultaneously agreed that Superman would beat Thor. I think it was kind of a product of Marvel writers thinking DC operates on higher power levels in general rather than anything else, anyway.
Every time I hear that sentiment, I’m reminded of that infamous
Plus there was that bit where Thor did a 1v2 with Superman and MM after knocking the former down hard. And he does say he underestimated Superman when talking about the fight and that a rematch would go quite differently.
I mean, that’s what you get in trying to extract powerscaling nonsense from the stories these people are writing to begin with, it’s like Dan Jurgens (who wrote both Superman and Thor) saying that Thor would win since he has magic, even if he thinks Superman is casually “millions of times stronger” (the exact terminology used, IIRC, was “Superman is stronger than Thor in the same way that Flash is faster than Quicksilver”.)
No worries! That's a great list regardlessThor
She-Hulk
Thing
Mister Fantastic
Doctor Strange
Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan)
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
Shang-Chi
Those seem to be some of the most likeable Avengers candidates in my view, although I picked two too many. My apologies.
I'd hope so, in my 4-ish years of reading DC and Marvel, I've found out that Marvel is a lot more consistent and "grandiose" with their scaling, no matter the category.
A great idea
I'd love a little discussion thread about this
Well, we recently created a new sub-forum for organising wiki revision project collaborations.
Profectus got the ball going, but here's what I have planned:
1. Damn, excellent work!
Thanks.
That's helpful, but I would like to just see what everyone is planning for the verse, since so many revisions have been mentioned. Just a simple list of things in the works would be very helpful I thinkWell, we recently created a new sub-forum for organising wiki revision project collaborations.
