Skeleton Kill Effect vs Actual Skeleton [Sans (Undertale) vs The Player (Combat Warriors)]

[Arkansalter2]

The last thread of this didn't get the attention it needed. Lets see if Player can manage (let alone hit) against Sans

9-A John Combat
Speed Equalized
SBA

Eh eh eh eh eh eh:

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Btools unanchors the world and AAAAA:

 

[Gamecooob]

parry gg?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

 

[Arkansalter2]

parry gg?

Player can't parry ranged attacks.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Player is a robot.

 

[Gamecooob]

Player can't parry ranged attacks.

gun bullet move fast gg?

 

[Arkansalter2]

gun bullet move fast gg?

I didn't give player access to specs.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Player is a robot.

sans doesn't care

Heavily implied to be capable of affecting Flowey, who lacks a SOUL

 

[Arkansalter2]

sans doesn't care

It was implied but feats>statements. He might have did something else that caused flowey said fear.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It was implied but feats>statements. He might have did something else that caused flowey said fear.

Said fear comes from sans causing him a "more than [his] fair share RESETs" (a.k.a killed him)
Mr. "Easiest Enemy" with his 1 ATK couldn't have killed Flowey, much less killed him multiple times, without his constant damage thingy.

It's also kinda accepted, so like

 

[Gamecooob]

Said fear comes from sans causing him a "more than [his] fair share RESETs" (a.k.a killed him)
Mr. "Easiest Enemy" with his 1 ATK couldn't have killed Flowey, much less killed him multiple times, without his constant damage thingy.

It's also kinda accepted, so like

legit, what are the damages caused by his regular duraneg?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Said fear comes from sans causing him a "more than [his] fair share RESETs" (a.k.a killed him)

So it's layered without being layered. Player has more than enough skill to not get his soul nuked. He has class 50 LS so his soul (if he had one) shouldn't really get moved like that.

legit, what are the damages caused by his regular duraneg?

Soul.

 

[Gamecooob]

Soul.

no im talm bout the duraneg on the physical body
he duranegs both physicals and the soul

 

[Arkansalter2]

he duranegs both physicals and the soul

It's said to be "poison-like."
IOP 2 should just well.. make it not affect him.

 

[Gamecooob]

Since I can't see ANYTHING about legit soul-hax layering for UT (correct me if im wrong), Sans 100% used the physical duraneg for flowy.

I assume it just... auto-pierces? Despite durability? Cuz it bypasses inv frames, so that is the most logical thing to assume here imo.

Player has type 2 immo, he's noselling any bone that pierces him and just shattering them.
Gaster blasters? He's just gonna aimdodge it like Frisk does ingame, except better.
TK? He's just gonna counteract the force by flipping midair or just jumping.

Thats my take on the situation anyway.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Player has more than enough skill to not get his soul nuked. He has class 50 LS so his soul (if he had one) shouldn't really get moved like that.

Most people don't get past the first attack against sans 1st try in a blind walkthrough, much less beat him.
sans' attacks demand really good muscle memory and knowing the patterns to avoid them, so the Player would need to have insane dodging danmaku feats or precog to do so.

It's said to be "poison-like."
IOP 2 should just well.. make it not affect him.

KARMA is not dura neg only via the poison effect, but because it ignores completely the DEF boost.
It inflicts the same damage whenever your DEF is 0, 4, 20, 99 or whatever else.

 

[Arkansalter2]

What type of Dura Neg is it? I know it's defense ignoring, but how does it work?

 

[Comiphorous]

What type of Dura Neg is it? I know it's defense ignoring, but how does it work?

Soul based dura neg. Sans' just works on soulless beings anyways.

It's still "soul based" dura neg here. The only difference is that it works anyways.

 

[Gamecooob]

Soul based dura neg. Sans' just works on soulless beings anyways.

...what?

So, its layered.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

...what?

So, its layered.

Layered soul hax wouldn't work on someone who lacks a soul.

 

[Comiphorous]

...what?

So, its layered.

No it's soul based dura neg that works on soulless beings. Completely different.

Don't think too hard about the logistics of how someone using soul magic affects a soulless being, sans just kinda does that anyways.

 

[Arkansalter2]

So it's layered without being layered. How the f*** does that work I have no clue bc f*** undertale.
Anyways, what's Sans doing about one shot level skills?

 

[Comiphorous]

So it's layered without being layered. How the f*** does that work I have no clue bc f*** undertale.
Anyways, what's Sans doing about one shot level skills?

dodging.

and then outskilling the player. fighting a person who controls time and having infinite retries and and winning more than once is basically above anything possible in combat warriors lol.

 

[Gamecooob]

waitwaitwait, hold on.

it says it affects both souls & physical bodies.

should I not have every incentive to think that it only affected Flowey's physical?

 

[Comiphorous]

waitwaitwait, hold on.

it says it affects both souls & physical bodies.

should I not have every incentive to think that it only affected Flowey's physical?

Flowey is a whole nother tier above sans, which makes that impossible.

 

[Catbowtie]

Yea, no, John Combat gets negged by Danmaku. Sans FRA

 

[Arkansalter2]

dodging.

Has sans dodged AOE before instead of just straight up slash attacks?

 

[Gamecooob]

Flowey is a whole nother tier above sans, which makes that impossible.

Brother it's duraneg, is it not?

 

[Comiphorous]

Has sans dodged AOE before instead of just straight up slash attacks?

No prior knowledge, so strange to assume the player would start with anything besides regular weaponry which doesn't have AOE. Also he fought flowey, who's starting move is to surround the enemy with bullets, so theres implications but nothing solid, so i'd take that with a grain of salt.

That, and sans literally just has to move his hand down to win, so a bit easier than anything the player does.

Brother it's duraneg, is it not?

yeah but he's soulless. soul-based dura neg wouldn't work on a soulless being lol.

sans just dura negs him anyways.

 

[Gamecooob]

yeah but he's soulless. soul-based dura neg wouldn't work on a soul based being lol.

brother it says it works on both souls and the physical body...
is it not only logical to think it just surpassed Flowy's physicals?

 

[Comiphorous]

brother it says it works on both souls and the physical body...
is it not only logical to think it just surpassed Flowy's physicals?

it harms the soul and the physical body. it specifically doesn't dura neg the body, because frisks' armors work against magic.

it's very illogical to assume a 9-A surpassed a High 8-C's physicals. Sans just used his soul based dura neg on the soulless being cuz he felt like it idk. sans is him. this is what i meant when you shouldn't think about it too hard.

 

[Arkansalter2]

regular weaponry which doesn't have AOE

About that..

 

[Gamecooob]

it harms the soul and the physical body. it specifically doesn't dura neg the body, because frisks' armors work against magic.

So... Flowy didn't have a soul, but since it also duranegs the physical body, it killed him because of that.

Thank you.

 

[Comiphorous]

About that..

notice how that's far slower than sans... moving his hand???

 

[Comiphorous]

So... Flowy didn't have a soul, but since it also duranegs the physical body, it killed him because of that.

Thank you.

sorry which part of "it specifically doesn't dura neg the body, because frisks' armors work against magic." didn't click with you?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

About that..

Are they supposed to jump on sans while being TKed into bones or??

 

[Gamecooob]

sorry which part of "it specifically doesn't dura neg the body, because frisks' armors work against magic." didn't click with you?

The profiles say it effects both souls and the body.

Neither does Sans have Resistance/Immunity neg on his profile.

Put dat into the profiles first so you can cook with this.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Are they supposed to jump on sans while being TKed into bones or??

John Combat is Class 50. TK is not working against John unfortunately.

 

[Comiphorous]

Neither does Sans have Resistance/Immunity neg on his profile.

Put dat into the profiles first so you can cook with this.

actually it is on the profile. it lists being able to affect flowey, who is accepted as soulless.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

John Combat is Class 50. TK is not working against John unfortunately.

And doesn't have Flight. LS means nothing mid-air if you don't have Flight.