Solo leveling (ragnorock) canonicity

[PHANtomFELdway]

It has come to my attention that a thread canonicity needs to be made.which should be easy but who knows.(broken link )

All we have are a few author notes talking about him being entrusted with writing the sequel.

Which to me just seems like the same case with dragon ball.

You can find the link below. As well as screenshots here

나 혼자만 레벨업 : 라그나로크

「무한리셋」「던전리셋」의 작가 다울그가 이어 나가는 또 다른 이야기!「나 혼자만 레벨업 : 라그나로크」평범한 대학생으로 살아가던 성수호죽음을 앞둔 순간,잠들어 있던 그의 특별한 혈통이 깨어난다!“일어나라.”죽음을 거스르고 지배하는 헌터,그가 선보이는 새로운 레벨업을 주목하라!* * *[‘나 혼자만 레벨업 : 라그나로크’는 ‘나 혼자만 레벨업’의 스핀오프 소설입니다.]

page.kakao.com

If accepted there will only really be one major change.

*Ragnorock version of jinwoo will be a key on jinwoos current profile. Instead of a whole new profile.

*And will now be able to use context and statements for characters as well as lore and more in depth cosmology.

Og series jinwoo doesn’t scale to ragnorock version in many aspects so the scaling between them won’t be able to be used as justification unless more evidence is presented.



If it is rejected. Idk how that will work. (Will ragnorocks profile not be able to use og series even though it references it alot?) or would ragnorock be able to use og, but og can’t use ragnorock.

Ex. Ragnorock is canon to og but not vise versa.


This thread needs to be done before most others due to the sheer amount of context and lore about the workings of abilities ragnorock would add to future crts if accepted.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I didn’t mean to post this yet

 

[KaramcaS]

Luffy also has three different profiles, but they're all different eras of the same character.

Jinwoo already has enough confusingly long "Keys". Ragnarok should be a separate profile.

 

[SeijiSetto]

I didn’t mean to post this yet

there's a sandbox section
you can refine the thread as much as you want there and then just copy the entire content of the post to an actual CRT

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

there's a sandbox section
you can refine the thread as much as you want there and then just copy the entire content of the post to an actual CRT

No idea how to do that imma look around

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Luffy also has three different profiles, but they're all different eras of the same character.

Jinwoo already has enough confusingly long "Keys". Ragnarok should be a separate profile.

Different character.more supporters,and they decided to have it like that. It makes no sense for a new profile when the only difference will be more abilities. As literally every ability they share will have the same justification.

Just list it as. “All previous abilities with the addition of these” instead of making a whole different profile.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Why does a canonicity thread need to be made? Isn't it an official sequel?

 

[SeijiSetto]

No idea how to do that imma look around

if you're on desktop it's at the top bar of the screen, you cannot miss it (thus i imagine you aren't on desktop)
on mobile if you open the side menu of the site with 3 lines and scroll to the bottom it's there

 

[Re5yh]

Looks good, I agree

 

[Phoenks]

Why does a canonicity thread need to be made? Isn't it an official sequel?

It is a different author, so I would want to make sure it is accepted as being a sequel before doing anything with it.

The evidence we have is this:

Daul (writer of Ragnarok) was entrusted to write the sequel by Chugong (The original author)

Ragnarok follows the story of Jinwoo's son, who is introduced at the end of Solo Leveling.

It was also released by the same publisher "PAPYRUS" and serialized on "KAKAO PAGE"

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

if you're on desktop it's at the top bar of the screen, you cannot miss it (thus i imagine you aren't on desktop)
on mobile if you open the side menu of the site with 3 lines and scroll to the bottom it's there

thank you

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Following.

 

[Dooyo]

It is a different author, so I would want to make sure it is accepted as being a sequel before doing anything with it.

The evidence we have is this:

Daul (writer of Ragnarok) was entrusted to write the sequel by Chugong (The original author)

Ragnarok follows the story of Jinwoo's son, who is introduced at the end of Solo Leveling.

It was also released by the same publisher "PAPYRUS" and serialized on "KAKAO PAGE"

By your logic, so his Boruto then, it's written by a different author too, and Kishimoto said explicitly that he isn't involved with it, yet nobody is saying it's not the sequel of Naruto, I don't even recall anybody wanted to make a thread to prove Boruto canonicity to Naruto.

On my side, yes, it's the canonical continuation of SL story, it's literally start at where the story of the OG novel ended.

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

Agreed to canonicity

 

[LOTM_Historian]

Why does a canonicity thread need to be made? Isn't it an official sequel?

Yeah i mean isn’t this situation the same as Boruto? Why is this thread even needed?

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

thank you

Seems like no one is against it. So isnt all thats needed now to get a couple admins/mods in here to get their input ?

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Seems like no one is against it. So isnt all thats needed now to get a couple admins/mods in here to get their input ?

Yeah. I have @ like 8 mods and none have came

 

[Pluto321]

Yeah. I have @ like 8 mods and none have came

which one are you planning to use novel or manhwa since both different timeline or something like that, since Manhwa Suho has fought Novel Suho.

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

which one are you planning to use novel or manhwa since both different timeline or something like that, since Manhwa Suho has fought Novel Suho.

It'll be novel. Theirs a bunch of arguements to be made with ragnorack tbh

 

[RitsuØ1]

Yeah. I have @ like 8 mods and none have came

Ask @Sir_Ovens

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Ask @Sir_Ovens

Peak, telling people to ping a retired staff member.


But honestly, I still don't understand why this thread closed the other one, since they had nothing to do with each other, as the result of that thread will be unaffected.

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

Peak, telling people to ping a retired staff member.


But honestly, I still don't understand why this thread closed the other one, since they had nothing to do with each other, as the result of that thread will be unaffected

Cause the other thread was argueing with ragnorack scans if I hade to guess

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Cause the other thread was argueing with ragnorack scans if I hade to guess

They did, but that was not the issue, and claiming such things is just pure misdirection for the core problem.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Peak, telling people to ping a retired staff member.


But honestly, I still don't understand why this thread closed the other one, since they had nothing to do with each other, as the result of that thread will be unaffected.

Because if this thread is accepted then I can use the scans with feats from ragnorock.as well as hax for future crts


(Ragnorock scans I was using in the other crt were context based) and not actual feats.

 

[Dooyo]

They did, but that was not the issue, and claiming such things is just pure misdirection for the core problem.

Not really because the Ragnarok novel had further context to the OG Sl novel, the scans weren't used for feats, although Ragnarok have a lot which is vastly more impressive than the OG SL which is natural since it's the sequel.

 

[Qawsedf234]

It is a different author, so I would want to make sure it is accepted as being a sequel before doing anything with it

I think its fine if its an official work. Though it's probably better to split it off into Ragnarok profiles like we do with other series like Boruto or One Piece.

 

[Phoenks]

Tbh I don't mind it being a key because it will barely have anything new. Jinwoo doesn't have much screentime at all in the sequel.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I think its fine if its an official work. Though it's probably better to split it off into Ragnarok profiles like we do with other series like Boruto or One Piece.

I don’t see a reason to do so tbh. There will be almost no differences between any profile made .

If for example Antares profile of ragnorock was made,there would be almost no differences between the ragnorock version and the og series.

If they are split,it would lead to the situation where

Og series is like island level and ragnorock is low multi even though ragnorock Antares is weaker than og series.

Ragnorock isn’t really another story,it is a continuation of what was happening just from Suho’s perspective.
So all the lore from the og is included. Including the powers.

Splitting them would lead to the contradiction of people who SHOULD be weaker, and directly stated to be weaker due to losing their powers,outscaling the versions of them that literally have their powers due to the additional context and feats ragnorock adds.


Context: primordial darkness is what gives you power,so when Antares was killed in the OG series ,he lost his primordial darkness and grew weaker. Making him narratively weaker than his original series counterpart.while still having the same lore.

Yet his weaker ragnorock version has more context and feats than in the Og series meaning if profiles are split ,would be inconsistent. Would have to separate the powers he is supposed to have between the profiles.

So I propose that instead,ragnorock is added as a new key..

For Antares it would be

Key:without primordial darkness (this key has a few different abilities due to literally being nonexistent)

Key :riginal series ones.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Tbh I don't mind it being a key because it will barely have anything new. Jinwoo doesn't have much screentime at all in the sequel.

Alright then, if its not enough for a new profile it can just be a new key

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Tbh I don't mind it being a key because it will barely have anything new. Jinwoo doesn't have much screentime at all in the sequel.

Btw you should add 17 years to jinwoos age.due to Suho. Being 17 at the end

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

Btw you should add 17 years to jinwoos age.due to Suho. Being 17 at the end

Its start of high school so I believe it'd be 14 given my quick Google search cause the twelve years later suho was 6 months old final chapter suho was in high-school

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Its start of high school so I believe it'd be 14 given my quick Google search cause the twelve years later suho was 6 months old final chapter suho was in high-school

Did a quick google search and apparently Korean high school starts at 15 years old so 15 years

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Did a quick google search and apparently Korean high school starts at 15 years old so 15 years

Nah he is 17. Ragnorock starts at 22 and it has been 5 years since the outer god war

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

Did a quick google search and apparently Korean high school starts at 15 years old so 15 years

Ya you right google bot lied to me that was 3 chapters before the series actually ended though
Phantom is probably right I just dont recall im waiting for him to send the proof on discord

 

[Dooyo]

Tbh I don't mind it being a key because it will barely have anything new. Jinwoo doesn't have much screentime at all in the sequel.

In that Ragnarok, he does have some few new abilities like Ressurection, he ressurected Antares back into life, void manip, etc.

His tier and speed definitely get far up tho.

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

In that Ragnarok, he does have some few new abilities like Ressurection, he ressurected Antares back into life, void manip, etc.

His tier and speed definitely get far up tho.

He had void manipulation in the original
His armor is manipulation of the void

 

[Dooyo]

He had void manipulation in the original
His armor is manipulation of the void

It count as Darkness manip in the Original and in his profile as well

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

It count as Darkness manip in the Original and in his profile as well

Weird considering its like explained twice darkness to be nothing albeit the gap and the abyss different examples while the abyss has like 3 statements of being a void and nothingness in og but who am I to judge but this is going off the rails and not needed to on this thread

 

[Dooyo]

Weird considering its like explained twice darkness to be nothing albeit the gap and the abyss different examples while the abyss has like 3 statements of being a void and nothingness in og but who am I to judge but this is going off the rails and not needed to on this thread

True it's the void in Ragnarok as it highlighted what his power actually is, I was referring to the OG novel where it wasn't as explored

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

True it's the void in Ragnarok as it highlighted what his power actually is, I was referring to the OG novel where it wasn't as explored

It isn’t explored alot,but it is stated at least 10 times that it is a void and a world of nothingness.