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Deku vs Sasuke

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So some questions rq

Forgot but does Sasuke have a way to immediately realize there's a massive power gap here?

What stops 5 layers of genjutsu? Quirks and chakra cant be equated and I'm pretty sure MS genjutsu just sends chakra into the enemy so deku not having chakra shouldn't matter here (Edit: chakra is physical and spiritual energy which deku has so it works regardless)

Wouldn't flame control just make it to where deku can't touch Sasuke without dying to amatarasu?
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
So some questions rq

Forgot but does Sasuke have a way to immediately realize there's a massive power gap here?

What stops 5 layers of genjutsu? Quirks and chakra cant be equated and I'm pretty sure MS genjutsu just sends chakra into the enemy so deku not having chakra shouldn't matter here (Edit: chakra is physical and spiritual energy which deku has so it works regardless)
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He has to look in Deku's eyes to use Genjutsu and even if Deku gets caught in it then what stops the Vestiges from snapping him out of it like anyone else by just hitting him mentally like what Gyuki did to help B break free from Itachi's Non-Tsukuyomi Genjutsu.
Delusionaltx2 said:
Wouldn't flame control just make it to where deku can't touch Sasuke without dying to amatarasu?
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Amaterasu probably isn't hot enough to actually hurt him thanks to him surviving a full body encompassing lightning bolt mid-air for several seconds of constant exposure, not to mention All Might showing he can punch pure plasma without it burning him thanks to OFA.
 
There are two ways this goes:

1. Sasuke goes for anything other than Genjutsu and gets blitzed and one shot by the over 6x speed gap.

2. Deku gets a danger sense ping when Sasuke is going to do Genjutsu, uses his over 6x speed gap to move before the chakra hits him from the Genjutsu (if Sasuke even insta goes for it) resulting in Sasuke hitting an afterimage, then one shots him.

So either equalize speed and make this a stomp for Sasuke because he just looks at him and wins or unequalize speed and it’s a stomp for Deku due to speed gap.
 
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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
He has to look in Deku's eyes to use Genjutsu
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Why would that be a problem? Isn't speed eq- oh...(OP never specified if speed was equalized)
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
and even if Deku gets caught in it then what stops the Vestiges from snapping him out of it like anyone else by just hitting him mentally like what Gyuki did to help B break free from Itachi's Non-Tsukuyomi Genjutsu.
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Fair
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Amaterasu probably isn't hot enough to actually hurt him thanks to him surviving a full body encompassing lightning bolt mid-air for several seconds of constant exposure, not to mention All Might showing he can punch pure plasma without it burning him thanks to OFA.
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Also fair


Guess deku just stomps then
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
He has to look in Deku's eyes to use Genjutsu and even if Deku gets caught in it then what stops the Vestiges from snapping him out of it like anyone else by just hitting him mentally like what Gyuki did to help B break free from Itachi's Non-Tsukuyomi Genjutsu.
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Thats a pretty big assumtion that Deku can nullify layered genjutsu (soul and mind hax) that give Jins layered power null. The only reason Jins can null at all is because the tailed beasts disrupt their chakra for them

1. also sasuke has a massive adventage with the sharingan precog and being able to sense his opponents bloodlust instictively
2. has stealth mastery that would make him impossible to sense for deku
3. Sunshin which would give him blitz level speed amp
4. At least Relativistic, higher with Chidori, with higher Reactions, even higher with Susano'o. He would be considerbly faster than deku with susanoo
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
Thats a pretty big assumtion that Deku can nullify layered genjutsu (soul and mind hax) that give Jins layered power null. The only reason Jins can null at all is because the tailed beasts disrupt their chakra for them

1. also sasuke has a massive adventage with the sharingan precog and being able to sense his opponents bloodlust instictively
2. has stealth mastery that would make him impossible to sense for deku
3. Sunshin which would give him blitz level speed amp
4. At least Relativistic, higher with Chidori, with higher Reactions, even higher with Susano'o. He would be considerbly faster than deku with susanoo
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Sasuke is getting blitzed before he does anything.

The Relativistic value Sasuke scales above is 6x slower than the value Deku is scaling above, and that’s when he isn’t even trying. Does his Sharingan or Susano’o give him a 6x speed amp?
 
Actually, what value is Sasuke even scaling to? Is he scaling to Kakashi or something else? Kakashi’s value with first gate amp is 10% SoL, and I know he isn’t scaling to Madara? Or is he?

Naruto profiles are so bad, none of them have speed values and the scaling is circular as heck with no actual calcs linking to the main profiles. Why are the only Rela calcs/notes on Kakashi and Madara’s profiles, but then no one links them for their speed rating. Kurama Mode Naruto is relative to Edo Madara so is that what Sasuke scales to?
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Sasuke is getting blitzed before he does anything.

The Relativistic value Sasuke scales above is 6x slower than the value Deku is scaling above, and that’s when he isn’t even trying. Does his Sharingan or Susano’o give him a 6x speed amp?
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Actually, what value is Sasuke even scaling to? Is he scaling to Kakashi or something else? Kakashi’s value with first gate amp is 10% SoL, and I know he isn’t scaling to Madara? Or is he?

Naruto profiles are so bad, none of them have speed values and the scaling is circular as heck with no actual calcs linking to the main profiles. Why are the only Rela calcs/notes on Kakashi and Madara’s profiles, but then no one links them for their speed rating. Kurama Mode Naruto is relative to Edo Madara so is that what Sasuke scales to?
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I thought speed was equalized, if that’s the case then it’s best to hold off this match as there is a massive speed revision going on for the nard verse
 
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Uchiha characters, minus Obito (who is debatable that he even starts off with Genjutsu), sucks to fight against in Naruto from other verses. If they don't have layered mind hax resistance, and genjutsu apparently affects the soul as well (I disagree with this, but hey, I don't make the CRTs on this site), then they're screwed by genjutsu.
 
I mean according to your argument, Danger Sense and superior speed would let Deku to dodge the Genjutsu chakra so this is a stat stomp.
 
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