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Original calc:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Gyutaro's Blood Blades.

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Ok so, Gyutaro's final attack is stated to destroy the entertainment district, this is backed up by the manga and the guidebooks, but what part of that gives ANY reasoning to using the Kinetic Energy of an anime only city block sized blood slash, that was never stated/shown to have happened in the manga or guidebooks, as the calculation for the feat

the only reasoning was this
Both in the anime and in the manga, the blood blades increase in size as they rise.
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That's because in the manga they're getting closer to THE READER POV, its literally never stated that they get bigger the higher they go in the manga or the guidebooks

This is clearly Anime only and shouldn't be used

Another way to calc this would be to just find the size of the part of the Entertainment District Gyutaro destroyed and use fragmentation/V. Frag. values to find out the energy
 
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the only reasoning was this
Both in the anime and in the manga, the blood blades increase in size as they rise.
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That's because in the manga they're getting closer to THE READER POV, its literally never stated that they get bigger the higher they go in the manga or the guidebooks
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Huh? They are obviously getting bigger in that panel and not just because of their distance to the POV.

The rings of blood blades closest to the ground are smaller than Gyutaro’s body, while the highest ones up are the size of entire houses. The one at the top of the page reaches across the entire width of the street, damaging houses on both sides of it. In this regard the anime is perfectly in line with the manga.
 
Epyriel said:
Huh? They are obviously getting bigger in that panel and not just because of their distance to the POV.

The rings of blood blades closest to the ground are smaller than Gyutaro’s body, while the highest ones up are the size of entire houses. The one at the top of the page reaches across the entire width of the street, damaging houses on both sides of it. In this regard the anime is perfectly in line with the manga.
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Ok, lets say for they do get that much bigger

The version in the anime is still nearly 3300 times higher than the same feat in the manga, and keep in mind this is the highest feat IN THE ENTIRE VERSE being done by the WEAKEST upper rank

The anime version just seems like a massive outlier
 
i swear every time we bring up thr gyutaro feat people always use the same outdated already dealt with arguments

but genuinely, like honestly, slowly bear with me here

take a look at the image you posted


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are you telling me you DON'T see how these are getting bigger?
like genuinely, you don't?

you need...checks note
explicit statements telling you the blood blades are getting bigger...i see, very clear indication of good faith behavior

the anime only shenannigans i will just post my old rebutal

the cherry picking is..intense, to say the least, the anime is not "too different from the manga",at all,The anime changes per your own words one or two semantical things, which are absolutely irrelevant toward the actual feat, At best it's manga = we don't know, anime = boom happens. Because one of them draws a strong conclusion and the other does not contradict it and provides no definitive answer, the logical conclusion woudl thus be that that the explosion could have also occurred within the manga but was not depicted clearly, to reconcile the manga with the anime (which is incredibly easy because of how closely the latter is to the former), there is no inherent contradiction, so you can't even claim as such because the manga doesn't show it means it didn't happen at allthe same end result was reached, you're all really are just catching on straws
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the fact that the author is involved in the animation process non withstanding
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Ok, lets say for they do get that much bigger

The version in the anime is still nearly 3300 times higher than the same feat in the manga, and keep in mind this is the highest feat IN THE ENTIRE VERSE being done by the WEAKEST upper rank

The anime version just seems like a massive outlier
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The manga doesn’t show the full extent of the damage. We see all the nearby houses are reduced to rubble, but we just don’t get any wide shots of the entertainment district.

Since we don’t get any standing houses nearby, I don’t view this as contradictory to the wideshots in the anime. It is filling in the blanks rather than creating an outlier. Perfectly admissible as a secondary source.
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Ok, lets say for they do get that much bigger

The version in the anime is still nearly 3300 times higher than the same feat in the manga, and keep in mind this is the highest feat IN THE ENTIRE VERSE being done by the WEAKEST upper rank

The anime version just seems like a massive outlier
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Lol, Nakime is achieving an even greater feat, Outlier won't work here.
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Original calc:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Gyutaro's Blood Blades.

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Ok so, Gyutaro's final attack is stated to destroy the entertainment district, this is backed up by the manga and the guidebooks, but what part of that gives ANY reasoning to using the Kinetic Energy of an anime only city block sized blood slash, that was never stated/shown to have happened in the manga or guidebooks, as the calculation for the feat

the only reasoning was this

That's because in the manga they're getting closer to THE READER POV, its literally never stated that they get bigger the higher they go in the manga or the guidebooks

This is clearly Anime only and shouldn't be used

Another way to calc this would be to just find the size of the part of the Entertainment District Gyutaro destroyed and use fragmentation/V. Frag. values to find out the energy
Click to expand...
There are no apparent issues on the Wiki that if such a thing is bigger, if however the author is involved, the feat is accepted using the anime.
 
Passersby said:
the anime only shenannigans i will just post my old rebutal


the fact that the author is involved in the animation process non withstanding
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Aight then

If you give DS anime scaling cause the creator worked on it

Give JJK anime scaling then

QF2QBV5.png


That was my plan FROM THE BEGINNING

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THATS RIGHT, THIS WAS A JJK UPGRADE THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Aight then

If you give DS anime scaling cause the creator worked on it

Give JJK anime scaling then

QF2QBV5.png


That was my plan FROM THE BEGINNING

bbqCBlP.png


THATS RIGHT, THIS WAS A JJK UPGRADE THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME
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....huh

other than the fact that these shenannigans are a case by case analysis, if a manga feat is expanded upon in the anime in a way that doesn't contradict the manga/if the anime is supervised by the author and has anime only stuff, sure, you can have it?

what the...you know what, whatver, i will let the mods decide what to do with you
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Aight then

If you give DS anime scaling cause the creator worked on it

Give JJK anime scaling then

QF2QBV5.png


That was my plan FROM THE BEGINNING

bbqCBlP.png


THATS RIGHT, THIS WAS A JJK UPGRADE THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME
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Make a separate thread about this, then. We don't know about whatever issues JJK scaling his having on this wiki.
 
I'm still gonna make the calc for Gyutaro just destroying the district incase it gets higher than 30 kilotons
 
Machmatej said:
Make a separate thread about this, then.
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There's been several
Machmatej said:
We don't know about whatever issues JJK scaling his having on this wiki.
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If you want to know there's lots of issues

But to write it in a way a DS reader can understand, its like if you took demon slayer and made all the multipliers ambiguous and then Muzan does a big city busting feat but when everyone fights him he's got no limbs no eyes and he's poisoned so no one scales close to his 100%

Anyways, I guess I'll close this thread now
 
Xaropadob3ta said:
The calculation was accepted, but we are currently using the larger value.
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Oh yeah, that one

First of all the blood blades don't extend the entire screen, just the dust cloud made by them extend the entire screen, you can clearly see where they stop

Second, they assume 80% wood 20% concrete even though 70-30 ratio has been used in other DS calcs

And Third, the spot they used for determining the hollowness% of the ED seemed less packed than most of the District
 
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