Sung Jin-Woo Novel Page

[Phoenks]

Okay, I'll test out this new sub-forum.

I've had this sandbox in the works for 2 years now, and it's been nearly finished for most of that time. I lost the motivation for continuing it right near the end.

All that really needs to be done is a minor cleanup and maybe the creation of a Notable Techniques section. After that, it'll be ready. I don't think I've missed anything regarding the scaling or abilities, though some people might try to argue for far more crazy feats.

Do bear in mind that this is purely based upon the original novel, not including the manhwa, anime, or sequels.

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Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Phoenks]

Im probably gonna have to remove the High 7-A end from the page now that I think about it. Not enough evidence to suggest anyone scales above the USA nuclear arsenal. At most I could only scale to the strongest nuke the USA currently has, which would only make him small city level regardless.

And there's also the fact that non magical things generally don't work against magical entities... rip.

 

[Phoenks]

looks good, I agree. I would love to see bro to be aura farming

What do you agree with this ain't a CRT I'm out here asking for help

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Agree FRA

 

[Dooyo]

I disagree with speed, even in the Original novel, Jinwoo dodged the Breath of destruction which was stated to move at the speed of light, making him at least FTL.

The Beast Monarch was stated to be able to destroy Earth at full power and Jinwoo defeated him, still from the Original novel.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I disagree with speed, even in the Original novel, Jinwoo dodged the Breath of destruction which was stated to move at the speed of light, making him at least FTL.

The Beast Monarch was stated to be able to destroy Earth at full power and Jinwoo defeated him, still from the Original novel.

it would be nice to bring scans since the OP said he needs help doing this

 

[Dooyo]

it would be nice to bring scans since the OP said he needs help doing this

Oh don't worry, OP know perfectly what I am referring, he considered that hyperbolic back then.

for speed, he could react and avoid the Breath of Destruction which moves at the speed of light multiple times

For the Beast Monarch capable of destroying the world at his full power, it was in chapter 221 of the novel of SL.

But now thanks to the absurd feats in the sequel, in retrospect, that wasn't hyperbolic as weaker characters have far better feat in the sequel.

 

[Phoenks]

I already have Jin woo at FTL? I'm confused what you mean.

 

[Dooyo]

I already have Jin woo at FTL? I'm confused what you mean.

My bad true, I didn't see the others key

Then about the AP, I disagree hardly with Island level when we have statement like the Beast Monarch capable of destroying the world at his full power, the AB created the Universe and everything in it and the Rulers capable of killing him, in retrospect of the sequel, all of those things weren't hyperbole and made sense with all the crazy things Itarims and their apostles are doing and the AB is himself actually an Itarim of Jinwoo Universe

 

[Phoenks]

My bad true, I didn't see the others key

Then about the AP, I disagree hardly with Island level when we have statement like the Beast Monarch capable of destroying the world at his full power, the AB created the Universe and everything in it and the Rulers capable of killing him, in retrospect of the sequel, all of those things weren't hyperbole and made sense with all the crazy things Itarims and their apostles are doing and the AB is himself actually an Itarim of Jinwoo Universe

Couple things.

Creation doesn't inherently scale to AP. It also results in massive outliers and things that just don't make any sense.

Absolute Being was able to create the entire universe over time, including all the Monarchs, yet he was defeated by his own creations. This alone infers that his strength isn't proportional to what he creates.

The strongest feat that is actually showcased in the novel is Sung Jin Woo dispersing a storm (6-C). This is also consistent with him being able to make earthquakes and the Frost Monarch becoming a storm.

It's a massive outlier to even try to scale anyone to universal because of that.

You mentioned the world destroying feats. It is true that the monarchs are said to be able to destroy the world if they fight on a planet that has no magical protection, however there are numerous issues.

1. It is done over time. There's nothing that suggests they can destroy the world in one shot. It is simply said that a war involving the monarchs will destroy the world. 5-B rating means that a character can output 5-B energy at will.
2. It is done via multiple monarchs fighting. So not only is this over time but it's also split between all the monarchs.
3. The usage of "world" is ambiguous. There's nothing to suggest that it means destroying the entire "planet" rather than just destroying "society," which is more contextually supported.

Also makes sense that they aren't directly 5-B considering they are compared to the Titans, who are a race of aliens that eat planets. And they also do that over time, and with numbers, rather than individually being able to just devour the entire thing.

5-B is just not supported enough.

 

[Dooyo]

Couple things.

Creation doesn't inherently scale to AP. It also results in massive outliers and things that just don't make any sense.

Absolute Being was able to create the entire universe over time, including all the Monarchs, yet he was defeated by his own creations. This alone infers that his strength isn't proportional to what he creates.

The strongest feat that is actually showcased in the novel is Sung Jin Woo dispersing a storm (6-C). This is also consistent with him being able to make earthquakes and the Frost Monarch becoming a storm.

It's a massive outlier to even try to scale anyone to universal because of that.

You mentioned the world destroying feats. It is true that the monarchs are said to be able to destroy the world if they fight on a planet that has no magical protection, however there are numerous issues.

1. It is done over time. There's nothing that suggests they can destroy the world in one shot. It is simply said that a war involving the monarchs will destroy the world. 5-B rating means that a character can output 5-B energy at will.
2. It is done via multiple monarchs fighting. So not only is this over time but it's also split between all the monarchs.
3. The usage of "world" is ambiguous. There's nothing to suggest that it means destroying the entire "planet" rather than just destroying "society," which is more contextually supported.

Also makes sense that they aren't directly 5-B considering they are compared to the Titans, who are a race of aliens that eat planets. And they also do that over time, and with numbers, rather than individually being able to just devour the entire thing.

5-B is just not supported enough.

True IF WE ONLY HAD THE OG novel but since the sequel happened, it put all those things to a different light like I said in retrospect.

We know that world means the planet in this context since minions of the Itarim could destroy literally star from simply a roar lol, and Monarchs are established above the apostles of Itarim.

AB created the entire Universe instantly, not over time, you are the one who made that assumption, we know now it's instantly because the Itarim who literally fought Suho at the end of Ragnarok created an entire Universe on the spot and trapped Suho in there, and said Itarim completely destroyed it during the battle, showcasing it apply into their AP.

Itarims are stated to create and destroy Universes at will, AB being in the same race as them don't make it an outlier in retrospect thank to the sequel.

 

[Dooyo]

Also the sequel highlighted none of the Monarchs in OG nor even in the sequel were at 100% of their strength and power, they were limited to their vessels and going down to the dimension where the Universe and Earth is located.

That is why I suggest to first do a Ragnarok novel profile, not the OG since it's the latest and final evolution of the character and put a lot of things in a different light in the OG novel which is just the prequel.

Also the Ragnarok novel ended last week, so yeah.

 

[Re5yh]

Also the sequel highlighted none of the Monarchs in OG nor even in the sequel were at 100% of their strength and power, they were limited to their vessels and going down to the dimension where the Universe and Earth is located.

That is why I suggest to first do a Ragnarok novel profile, not the OG since it's the latest and final evolution of the character and put a lot of things in a different light in the OG novel which is just the prequel.

Also the Ragnarok novel ended last week, so yeah.

Question, are the Ragnarok and Original Novel canon to each other?

 

[Phoenks]

As I said I'm only doing the main novel for now. I'll figure out Ragnarok eventually, but for now just focus on the original novel written by Chu Gong.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

why is he not outerversal huh

 

[Re5yh]

why is he not outerversal huh

cause he is not

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

cause he is not

well he is now

 

[Dooyo]

Question, are the Ragnarok and Original Novel canon to each other?

Yes, it's similar to Naruto and Boruto.

 

[Dooyo]

As I said I'm only doing the main novel for now. I'll figure out Ragnarok eventually, but for now just focus on the original novel written by Chu Gong.

But why tho, eventually you know that you will change it once Ragnarok one is done in retrospect via powerscaling, AB scaling to whatever the Itarims are doing in the sequel, etc, and as such the Rulers and obviously the Monarchs.

Or you don't believe the sequel to be the canon continuation of the prequel written by Chu Gong? Or you will create a Ragnarok key for the AB ?

 

[Phoenks]

But why tho, eventually you know that you will change it once Ragnarok one is done in retrospect via powerscaling, AB scaling to whatever the Itarims are doing in the sequel, etc, and as such the Rulers and obviously the Monarchs.

Or you don't believe the sequel to be the canon continuation of the prequel written by Chu Gong? Or you will create a Ragnarok key for the AB ?

Because I haven't read Ragnarok lol. This is all we have right now. Nobody else has seriously tried to scale Solo Leveling on here.

When/If I read Ragnarok, I will figure out how exactly I will scale them. It doesn't matter if it'll change. It's no different than how many novel profiles right now aren't updated to the current volumes.

 

[Dooyo]

Because I haven't read Ragnarok lol. This is all we have right now. Nobody else has seriously tried to scale Solo Leveling on here.

When/If I read Ragnarok, I will figure out how exactly I will scale them. It doesn't matter if it'll change. It's no different than how many novel profiles right now aren't updated to the current volumes.

I see, fair enough then.

Ragnarok novel ended, you can read it later when you got time, its writing is better than the OG

 

[Weaver261]

Because I haven't read Ragnarok lol. This is all we have right now. Nobody else has seriously tried to scale Solo Leveling on here.

When/If I read Ragnarok, I will figure out how exactly I will scale them. It doesn't matter if it'll change. It's no different than how many novel profiles right now aren't updated to the current volumes.

I don't think you need to read the whole Ragnarok novel to figure out SJW scaling in there since as far as I know, SJW only appeared at the end and most of the times, he was just being name dropped here and there. In the last few chapters, SJW easily tanked multi galaxies level attacks without having a single scratch and SJW was fighting three Itarims at once. He can scale around 3-B to 3-A.
(If you want to wank hard, go for 1-A abyss :3)

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

why is he not outerversal huh

can't tell if you are joking or being serious

 

[Phoenks]

I'm not going to add some half baked raganrok scaling into my profile when I haven't read it lol.

Again, guys, this is just for the OG novel. It's perfectly suitable to make a profile for just this.

Ragnarok was written years later by a different author. I don't have to include that for a page specifically made for the OG novel.

If anyone wants to eventually update the page and add Ragnarok scaling, they can do that. But as far as I can see, nobody has even tried to seriously scale Ragnarok.

So let's just do with what I've currently got down. I pretty much just need a notable techniques section tbh

 

[Dooyo]

I don't think you need to read the whole Ragnarok novel to figure out SJW scaling in there since as far as I know, SJW only appeared at the end and most of the times, he was just being name dropped here and there. In the last few chapters, SJW easily tanked multi galaxies level attacks without having a single scratch and SJW was fighting three Itarims at once. He can scale around 3-B to 3-A.
(If you want to wank hard, go for 1-A abyss :3)

Low 2C to 2C+ actually since Itarim can create and destroy Universe at will and the clash between Itarim spear and Suho (Jinwoo's son) Ragnarok sword destroyed an entire space time, the universe and even the void upon contact and Jinwoo eclipse that by far.

 

[Dooyo]

I'm not going to add some half baked raganrok scaling into my profile when I haven't read it lol.

Again, guys, this is just for the OG novel. It's perfectly suitable to make a profile for just this.

Ragnarok was written years later by a different author. I don't have to include that for a page specifically made for the OG novel.

If anyone wants to eventually update the page and add Ragnarok scaling, they can do that. But as far as I can see, nobody has even tried to seriously scale Ragnarok.

So let's just do with what I've currently got down. I pretty much just need a notable techniques section tbh

Well that is because it was still ongoing, it ended last week therefore anyone can easily do it now since everything is available.

 

[Weaver261]

I'm not going to add some half baked raganrok scaling into my profile when I haven't read it lol.

Sure but it was way too explicit with how it was described.

Spoiler: Feat

"One of the itarim tried to bind his entire body with thousands of tentacles forged from darkmatter. Another one throwed condensed galaxies like missiles. But all of those attacks were blocked and dissolved into nothingness by the barrier of shadow around Father (SJW)"

I am just suggesting. The rest is up to you. it's great to see someone scaling Solo Leveling in this day

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

How hard is it to understand that this is Jin woo's "solo leveling" profile, not "ragnarok"...

 

[Deonment]

Any help would be appreciated.

Profile honestly looks good enough to me off rip (I am ignoring the stats altogether)

Abstract Existence (Type 1 - Monarchs are spiritual bodies and do not possess a physical existence.[88][90] The Monarchs were born from a primordial darkness,[111][11] and Jin-Woo has become one with that darkness[106])

How is this AE exactly rather than just elemental intangibility (layered, since iirc hunters can fight Shadow Soldiers, who already have intang and incorp, though correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read anything SL related since the last chapter of the manhwa released)
Speaking of which, shouldn't magical energy (basically Jin-Woo since he's the only one with a profile) get NPI since people who use it can fight and engage Shadow Soldiers, unless we're saying that they have to sort of "manifest" to fight, and thus it wouldn't have NPI

Existence Erasure (By focusing their magic energy, Monarchs can erase beings from the fabric of existence altogether)

I presume you're considering this Soul or what have you level ee, considering this can perma kill shadow soldiers? Otherwise he would need Low Godly Neg for that key

Resistance to Soul Manipulation

I see no justification for this, though I presume you meant to put one here.

 

[Phoenks]

How is this AE exactly rather than just elemental intangibility (layered, since iirc hunters can fight Shadow Soldiers, who already have intang and incorp, though correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read anything SL related since the last chapter of the manhwa released)

Oh, I just figured it would be since the "primordial darkness" seems to be some concept that predates all creation, and so embodying/being one with that I thought would suffice for AE1.

It could probably just be incorp though. I don't mind changing it since it's one of the more dubious abilities anyway.

Speaking of which, shouldn't magical energy (basically Jin-Woo since he's the only one with a profile) get NPI since people who use it can fight and engage Shadow Soldiers, unless we're saying that they have to sort of "manifest" to fight, and thus it wouldn't have NPI

I put NPI in the black heart key but yeah he should probably get that earlier as well. Probably just forgot about it tbh.

I presume you're considering this Soul or what have you level ee, considering this can perma kill shadow soldiers? Otherwise he would need Low Godly Neg for that key

Yes. It should be since the shadow soldiers are effectively a soul-level existence in of themselves.

Could potentially still be a form of low godly negation though, since the shadow soldiers have come back from disappearing before. Though it's possible that just meant they were greatly dispersed rather than utterly destroyed.

I see no justification for this, though I presume you meant to put one here.

I don't exactly remember what my reason for putting that there was... Hm.

Though, if a person is effectively a soul-body and they survive attacks, would that grant them resistance to soul manipulation by default?

An example being how characters in Undertale resist soul manipulation by virtue of surviving attacks that hit their soul. (Taking soul attacks like they are physical ones)

If so he could potentially get it that way. I'll have to look into it though.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Oh, I just figured it would be since the "primordial darkness" seems to be some concept that predates all creation, and so embodying/being one with that I thought would suffice for AE1.

It could probably just be incorp though. I don't mind changing it since it's one of the more dubious abilities anyway.

seems pretty vague to a concept or something so yea probably best to switch with something else

 

[Dooyo]

Sure but it was way too explicit with how it was described.

Spoiler: Feat

"One of the itarim tried to bind his entire body with thousands of tentacles forged from darkmatter. Another one throwed condensed galaxies like missiles. But all of those attacks were blocked and dissolved into nothingness by the barrier of shadow around Father (SJW)"

I am just suggesting. The rest is up to you. it's great to see someone scaling Solo Leveling in this day

That and the Universe + of the Itarim vs Suho clash as well, which literally destroyed everything said Itarim created on the spot.

Well, let's forgot about Ragnarok and focus on the OG SL novel then.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Can someone explain to me how the profile is missing "Necromancy" of all hax?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Can someone explain to me how the profile is missing "Necromancy" of all hax?

lmfao

 

[Phoenks]

Can someone explain to me how the profile is missing "Necromancy" of all hax?

Brotha that's the first ability in the shadow monarch key. What are you talking about it has like the most massive explanation too. Impossible to miss.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Brotha that's the first ability in the shadow monarch key. What are you talking about it has like the most massive explanation too. Impossible to miss.

My question is, why is it not mentioned in the other keys? From my memory, doesn't it improve in later arcs?

 

[Dooyo]

Couple things.

Creation doesn't inherently scale to AP. It also results in massive outliers and things that just don't make any sense.

Absolute Being was able to create the entire universe over time, including all the Monarchs, yet he was defeated by his own creations. This alone infers that his strength isn't proportional to what he creates.

The strongest feat that is actually showcased in the novel is Sung Jin Woo dispersing a storm (6-C). This is also consistent with him being able to make earthquakes and the Frost Monarch becoming a storm.

It's a massive outlier to even try to scale anyone to universal because of that.

You mentioned the world destroying feats. It is true that the monarchs are said to be able to destroy the world if they fight on a planet that has no magical protection, however there are numerous issues.

1. It is done over time. There's nothing that suggests they can destroy the world in one shot. It is simply said that a war involving the monarchs will destroy the world. 5-B rating means that a character can output 5-B energy at will.
2. It is done via multiple monarchs fighting. So not only is this over time but it's also split between all the monarchs.
3. The usage of "world" is ambiguous. There's nothing to suggest that it means destroying the entire "planet" rather than just destroying "society," which is more contextually supported.

Also makes sense that they aren't directly 5-B considering they are compared to the Titans, who are a race of aliens that eat planets. And they also do that over time, and with numbers, rather than individually being able to just devour the entire thing.

5-B is just not supported enough.

In OG SL novel, we know that the Planet durability was ridiculously amped by the Rulers pouring constantly mana into it, so I don't see the outlier that you are talking about

Not necessarily, we know the AB created the entire Universe before space time even existed, and he done that via his mana, the Rulers and Monarchs with their true strength easily scale to that in OG SL novel since throughout the novel, they were NEVER at full power anyway, just in a vessel and in a vastly more durable Earth than normal.

 

[Phoenks]

My question is, why is it not mentioned in the other keys? From my memory, doesn't it improve in later arcs?

Not really? I guess the only time I can think that it got better is when he defeats the architect and all the system restraints are removed. Since he isn't limited to the whole "try to summon 3 times" thing. But I already mention in the profile that the system limits are removed. In the true shadow monarch key.

 

[Phoenks]

In OG SL novel, we know that the Planet durability was ridiculously amped by the Rulers pouring constantly mana into it, so I don't see the outlier that you are talking about

Not necessarily, we know the AB created the entire Universe before space time even existed, and he done that via his mana, the Rulers and Monarchs with their true strength easily scale to that in OG SL novel since throughout the novel, they were NEVER at full power anyway, just in a vessel and in a vastly more durable Earth than normal.

The outlier is the fact that 5-B/Low 2-C ratings are ridiculously above what is showcased in solo leveling. The strongest actual feat is Jin Woo dispersing a storm, as I said.

It doesn't make sense to scale AB's attack potency to his creation of the universe when he was literally defeated by his creations imo. At least not in OG solo leveling.

And the planetary destruction statements still have the problem that there's no timeframe and it's done by multiple people fighting.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Not really? I guess the only time I can think that it got better is when he defeats the architect and all the system restraints are removed. Since he isn't limited to the whole "try to summon 3 times" thing. But I already mention in the profile that the system limits are removed. In the true shadow monarch key.

Possibly, been a long time since I read it.