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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread
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How reliable is the leak that Rerir's gonna be playable on 6.4?
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Very reliable because its from HomDGCat and leakers like HxG, Team Mew, Seele Leaks and others Reposted
Its from ingame file btw
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What did hoyo actually think when they did this, they literally just released the strongest playable character that like upscales above everyone (Alice, N, Columbina, Neuvillette and obviously all of the archons) since sinners are like compared to the shades at the least
Sinners lowballed are at best lower than the shades, but they're still above any hexenzirkels (Rhinedottir isn't included) with like them being above full authority sovereign, fatui harbingers and the archons lol
Genuinely a must pull, if hoyo butchered the kit its so over that sinners are just fodders
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Other than their power is being more fundamental than elemental energy in the sense that its much older and govern the aspects of reality more than the seven elements, we dont know.@Sahlwrld Are you able to make like a short lists of feats for the moon goddesses based on info we have so far?now that we also have info on the moonwheels.
But Moon Goddess are hierarchically above any Eathly gods in Teyvat.
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I mean.. Rerir kinda have to involved in Nod-Krai giving that his title is "Racher of Solnari" Which translates to "Moon-Hunting" Like in the weapon skin description.
Not to mention, one of the moon sisters name is "Solnari"
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Problem is, Rerir according on the weapon skin description is compared to Ronova herself
He had to be the strongest, Mavuika with even a fragment of Ronova's power scales that high its genuinely insane. We talking about a playable character not an NPC here
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Heavenly Principles (Phanes / First Descender) = Nibelung (Second Descender presumably) > Four Shades = Merged Sinners (Naberius & Rhinedottir) > 5 Sinners (Four Shades and 5 Sinners before merge are relative though) > Skirk/Columbina/Merged Capitano/Pierro/Hexenzirkel > Full Authority Sovereign > 7 Archons > Part Authority Sovereign (These three without the intervention of any Shades or it's powers btw) > 11th Fatui Harbingers > 13 A.I Dragonlords > Strongest Vision users (Traveler scales here)
Prime Traveler gets no-diffed by each Shade, Voyager is like Unknown with the First Angel but they should be comparable to Columbina at the least, jeez
Phanes (1)
Nibelung (1)
Shades (4)
Sinners (5)
Skirk (1)
Fatui Harbingers (11) with Pierro
Hexenzirkel (8)
Sovereign (7)
Archon (7)
A.I Dragonlords (13)
Traveler is Top 59 at best (or 61)
Would've lost to Ei if it wasn't for her will, would've lost to Scaramouche for the same reason. Zero contributions in fight against the Narwhal back in Fontaine and zero contributions to Natlan + Almost one-shotted by the 13 Dragonlords that are below Xiuhcoatl and the Pyro Archon. Name a better feat than this
Also zero contributions against Azhdaha too, gets no-diffed by Arlecchino completely cause he's only equal to the House of the Hearth (Lyney, Lynette + Freminet). Comparable to Childe back in Liyue cause Childe wasn't even SERIOUS (Osial stuff), Traveler gets no-diffed by Osial's wife
Prime Traveler gets no-diffed by each Shade, Voyager is like Unknown with the First Angel but they should be comparable to Columbina at the least, jeez
Phanes (1)
Nibelung (1)
Shades (4)
Sinners (5)
Skirk (1)
Fatui Harbingers (11) with Pierro
Hexenzirkel (8)
Sovereign (7)
Archon (7)
A.I Dragonlords (13)
Traveler is Top 59 at best (or 61)
Would've lost to Ei if it wasn't for her will, would've lost to Scaramouche for the same reason. Zero contributions in fight against the Narwhal back in Fontaine and zero contributions to Natlan + Almost one-shotted by the 13 Dragonlords that are below Xiuhcoatl and the Pyro Archon. Name a better feat than this
Also zero contributions against Azhdaha too, gets no-diffed by Arlecchino completely cause he's only equal to the House of the Hearth (Lyney, Lynette + Freminet). Comparable to Childe back in Liyue cause Childe wasn't even SERIOUS (Osial stuff), Traveler gets no-diffed by Osial's wife
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They're making rerir standard
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They scale higher than Sovereign, like atleast Skirk one but Columbina should be higher/relative to it. Merged Capitano like the one merged with Lord of the Night itself is probably relative, Pierro unless he fought Shades itself then yeah. Hexenzirkel is obvious
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I'm missing a lot of context here, this all sounds ridiculous
This is what I get for deleting the game
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How is Capitano and Pierro above 7 Sovereigns? Are we joking?
Fatui Harbingers like Capitano, Dottore, and Pierro should'nt be above High Tier Archons like Xbalanque, Raiden, Mavuika, Zhongli and Venti. At best they're comparable.
Except for like Columbina upon becoming the Moon Goddess, her rank is not relevant anymore.
People been saying that Capitano is the strongest Human until they forgot the History that there was a man called Xbalanque with his Obsidian Sword killing several of the 13 Sovereign Rulers and eventually toe to toe with the Pyro Dragon.
Xbalanque > Capitano all day.
Not all Hexenzirkel is strong physically, some of them are Humans like Ivanovna and Andersdotter. They have the high tier and its Alice, Rhinedottir and Barbeloth.
We don't even know if Barbeloth is strong physically since she's literally old woman.
7 Sovereigns combined > Teyvat.
Even one of them already have the status and ability to rival the world let alone 7 of them.
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bruhh, by this logic every geo user must be zhongli levelProblem is, Rerir according on the weapon skin description is compared to Ronova herself
He had to be the strongest, Mavuika with even a fragment of Ronova's power scales that high its genuinely insane. We talking about a playable character not an NPC here
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That's why Fatui Harbingers are put below the Archons, that literally includes Dottore.
Merged Capitano with Lord of the Night is obviously above, he has the power of a Shade (Ronova) atleast a fragment of it because it was Lord of the Night who governed Natlan and that was below Ronova. Xbalanque is nothing without the Shades intervention, I don't get why you genuinely thought all of the Hexenzirkels are strong physically when it's just their abilities and invention. 7 Sovereigns combined > Teyvat only works for the 7 Archons governing it, and this is assuming they're full authority so it's useless
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Your reading comprehension is cookedbruhh, by this logic every geo user must be zhongli level
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fr? thanks for telling
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Yeah it's cooked cause there's no way you just said that when 4 Shades and 5 Sinners are the top 2/3 of Genshin Impact just below Nibelung and Phanes
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how long is the new archon quest (i tought it was that 40 days event 
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I think your list is wrong no offense.
Hexenzirkel should be above Skirk, skirk pretty much >neuvilette> Merged capitano shouldn´t be that strong since the 13 dragon lords killed angels which Lord of the Night is one of the angels.
I don´t know if i should put columbina above Skirk but she should be pretty much>> every archon and fatui member due to her being the moon goddess.
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Where does this title even come from ´´strongest human in teyvat´´ cuz I haven´t seen it in game or any of the teasers.
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Probably mavuika saying "PinNAcLE oF HumAn sTrENGth"
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The archon quest is the one with Ineffa in it. Mare Jivari will be released a couple days later.how long is the new archon quest (i tought it was that 40 days event
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Sandrone is most likely not human since the fatuus under her commands aren´t even human
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Hexenzirkel actually has zero feats that makes them above the Archons to be honest, them being above Skirk is too reaching just because Alice guarded the False Sky. It doesn't necessarily make her scale to the Shades or the Sinners in the first place, but if that's the case with Lord of the Night then it's fine I suppose assuming without Ronova's powers
Columbina above Skirk is kinda reaching too, unless it was shown in Nod-Krai to be like that but I lean the otherwise for now
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You are right, they are pretty much featless beside Alice, Rhinedottir (which i assume was pre shade) and nicole, they should be on par with rhinedottir (pre shade). Alice is referred as near-omnipotent (not that it means anytthing in scaling) by albedo who doesn´t seem to say the same regarding Venti. I would say they are above archons for now but that is about it.
As for skirk, You are also right they have no feats above her for now unless we just scale alice and nicole with Rhinedottir (pre shade). Skirk also seem to said that Alice tolerate her presence in Teyvat and made a promise with her not to intervene to much. (not saying it means anything but it sounds like Alice would atleast attack Skirk if she didn´t tolerate her presence).
Yeah, to be safe for now I would just say Skirk> Columbina. Aren´t the sovereigns greater than the moon sisters as well? since the king of the sovereigns created the moon.
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I mean I was under the assumption that Moon Sisters > 7 Sovereigns cause of what Sahl said here (Moon being more fundamental than the elementals) or something
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He got that statement from Ineffa regarding the Moonwheel. It is comparing the moonwheel with the visions since the power of the moon is purer than the tainted elemental energy version created by Phanes. Sahl also said that Moon Goddess would be above every earthly gods (that would be the archons)
In Ineffa words
Much like the wisdom conferred by our Sovereign, the Moon Wheel relies on a purer form of power, and not elemental energy, tainted as it is by the usurper.
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Ineffa is basically not bound by constellations
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Maybe och-kan, king deshret, king irmin, anasfortas, four pillers of strength, that whale like thing from fontaine world quest etc
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Fan made theory
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In their Prime, they should be around Post Training Traveler, do a little weaker, i mean the goat was stopping 2 walls of concentrated power with a harmed shoulder, my goat fr fr no cap
Just using your logic
We dont know how strong they are, featless as for now
Edit: If the Moon Goddess were to be stronger than Archons why would she rank just n3? below Dottore, which has statments above Shouki no Kami and Nahida and Capitano a dude than went 1v1 against one of the strongest archons
Aura farming, i would wish for him, but DURIN GOAT IS NEXT, I CANT LET HIM SLIDE
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There is no leak (I think) saying that, but we know he would appear in 6.0 either as a image cutscene (Like those flashbacks of Skirk with Surtalogi) or as a voice
My man, you say this as if Neuvi wasnt comparable to Shades, even do his power could make him fight over 40 years against at least one of them
- 3 Elements Traveler vs Archon
- Shouki litterally tremble to the floor even before we get the Knowledge amp, Shouki is stronger, yeah but not by a giantic gap
- He was the one who throw himself to its mouth to delete the "root" (Shadow)
- Zero contribution to Natlan is when Mavuika needed his ahh or she would be killed (She needed the Purification powers and the giant sword, which she only got because the traveler was sent to the shadow realm)
- "Almost one shotted" Needs to be ambush (Yuta greatest move) and then when she throws all her power into blud, he just cassually stops her while harmed
- 2 Elements Traveler vs Archon lvl threath (Idk what u expect him to do)
- I could make the most diavolical statment about Arle, but gianny would get mad
- Could you even prove he wasnt serious? even do he destruyed the fricking floor because of frustation?
- Again using a weak traveler vs a high mid tier in the verse
Void i dont think you understand the concept of character growth in power, you would probably think Goku in the newest saga is still comparable to his kid version or something like that or that Itadori is a Grade 2 lvl by the end of Shinjuku Arc
Top 20 as for rn
Nah dude, sadly he is like Skirk comparable (Its so peak)
When i finnally agree with Sahl in something
- Och-kan was a Hydro Traveler victim
- King Irmin depends if he scales above Sinners post or pre Abyss Power corruption
- Deshret dont think has that high feats
- Anasfortas... who?
- What are the "Four Pillars of strength"?
- Scylla is just stated to be stronger than common Hydro Vishaps, nothing to fancy
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According to travel log, Traveler used all his strength to hold back the 11th dragon lord, crazy how hoyo keeps nerfing him. dragon lords rn are stronger than angels.
as for why Columbina was ranked no3, It could be possible she never used her full powers to begin with. It can be backed up with Childe v.l who didn´t know the reason why she was ranked no3 and he was very wary of her, so was the wanderer. None of these two are wary of any of the other higher harbringers. Plus i doubt she is still in the fatui. It´s also clear that childe himself is way stronger than those ranked above him since he scale with narwhal.
Moonwheels are also confirmed to be stronger than the visions that already shows a indicative correlation with moon sisters being stronger than archons. Mavuika also didn´t go full power on Capitano though.
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Thats what it sais (Chinese Version), it only says the barrier power is strong, doesnt doesnt say he used all his strength (In fact he should be able by the fact he armed his arm 10 seconds before)
Childe is an outlier, not the rule, he grows in power
I dont think they use eachother to proof who is stronger and should be ranked higher, most pausible is that either Pierro or Tsarita can detect the power "lvls" of each, and this narrative will aline more with that leak of Dottore experimenting on Columbina to make her a Fully Moon Goddess.
I would rather see some amp like Shouki no Kami/Scara case than "I hide my powers all along"
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No
Capitano essentially merged with the Leylines itself or the Night Kingdom or the Lord of the Night.
He does not have Ronova's Power but he's the victim of Ronova's power which is the Curse of Immortality which make him immortal.
Says who? In the war between heroes vs Dragons in Natlantea Era when Xbalanque
Fought the Dragons, He had not yet borrow power from Ronova, he's just made a contract with Ronova to just resurrect himself after fighting the Pyro Dragon.
All he got at that time was his Obsidian Sword and the Power of Phlogiston and nothing else.
And eventually what? He manage to killed the Pyro Dragon even though he also got killed but that is one of the most impressive feats for a Human.
Yeah? Their abilities might be insane but facing like Dragon Sovereigns who once tanked the Primordial One and 4 Shades are not enough, they need strong enough strenght to deal with them
Of course its their full authority? Who even said its not their full authority anyway
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the dragon soverign was affected by the abyss literall the only reaons why he managed to beat the pyro soverign was beacause the dragon gave up its eye giving himself a weak spot.No
Capitano essentially merged with the Leylines itself or the Night Kingdom or the Lord of the Night.
He does not have Ronova's Power but he's the victim of Ronova's power which is the Curse of Immortality which make him immortal.
Says who? In the war between heroes vs Dragons in Natlantea Era when Xbalanque
Fought the Dragons, He had not yet borrow power from Ronova, he's just made a contract with Ronova to just resurrect himself after fighting the Pyro Dragon.
All he got at that time was his Obsidian Sword and the Power of Phlogiston and nothing else.
And eventually what? He manage to killed the Pyro Dragon even though he also got killed but that is one of the most impressive feats for a Human.
Yeah? Their abilities might be insane but facing like Dragon Sovereigns who once tanked the Primordial One and 4 Shades are not enough, they need strong enough strenght to deal with them
Of course its their full authority? Who even said its not their full authority anyway
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Yeah i know but thats still impressive if we look it from the Humans perspective.
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