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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Mizuki67 said:
Feldway can destroy the universe
Milim>feldway has its been shown she also destroyed the universe
Ivarage>feldway
Then diablo>feldway, guy=>feldway, chloe<feldway but should be relative I guess. I feel genesis class characters are low 2-C
So rimuru and Veldanava are both 2-A, milim, ivarage, guy, rural, zelanus and feldway are all low 2-C, veldora and the rest should be high 3-A but that's an argument for later
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But do you have a proof that this universe is universal in size, Feldway LITERALLY destroyed it or if Tensura light have same speed as our irl light?

Do it.
 
Mizuki67 said:
Feldway can destroy the universe
Milim>feldway has its been shown she also destroyed the universe
Ivarage>feldway
Then diablo>feldway, guy=>feldway, chloe<feldway but should be relative I guess. I feel genesis class characters are low 2-C
So rimuru and Veldanava are both 2-A, milim, ivarage, guy, rural, zelanus and feldway are all low 2-C, veldora and the rest should be high 3-A but that's an argument for later
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No. That makes no sense, due to milim scaling to Rimuru enough to “hurt him”
 
Ultimuru said:
But do you have a proof that this universe is universal in size, Feldway LITERALLY destroyed it or if Tensura light have same speed as our irl light?
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what?, i should prove the cardinal universe is as big as ours?, contexually speaking it's way bigger lol, ciel is a reliable source of information so feat doesn't necessarily play a role here, tensura speed of light is speed of light. Author uses laws of physics and implement them in the story, i do not understand the "tensura light being light speed" lol
PHANtomFELdway said:
No. That makes no sense, due to milim scaling to Rimuru enough to “hurt him”
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Nah, if you clearly read that, rimuru wasn't hurt he just said it stings which verbatim means it tickles or it made his hand feel somehow rimuru didn't infact get scratched by the attack whatsoever
 
Mizuki67 said:
what?, i should prove the cardinal universe is as big as ours?, contexually speaking it's way bigger lol, ciel is a reliable source of information so feat doesn't necessarily play a role here, tensura speed of light is speed of light. Author uses laws of physics and implement them in the story, i do not understand the "tensura light being light speed" lol
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I was referencing to what was happening in last downgrade CRT.
 
Mizuki67 said:
They really asked if light is light speed 🥀
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Well not directly. It was about big bang. Big bang was mentioned in novel, so if Rimuru used that term, his previous home universe most likely was born with big bang, which means it expands at speed faster than light.

In return we got something like "Tensura is fantasy. We can't assume entire universe works like our universe only because earths are the same"

In other words prove that this big bang is like irl big bang.
 
Mizuki67 said:
Nah, if you clearly read that, rimuru wasn't hurt he just said it stings which verbatim means it tickles or it made his hand feel somehow rimuru didn't infact get scratched by the attack whatsoever
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Which literally means pain was inflicted on him. Which wouldn’t be possible with the tiers you are proposing.stinging is not a tickle. He compared it to a stomach age
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Which literally means pain was inflicted on him. Which wouldn’t be possible with the tiers you are proposing.stinging is not a tickle. He compared it to a stomach age
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So what, milim should be 2-B then lol
Or rimuru ap is the only thing changing?, well I don't even know atp. Before rimuru came back, the energy he used to transfer was equal to the big bang
Rimuru could create the world thousands of times over at once (output=input)
Milim destroyed the world (probably the entire timeline)
Feldway can only destroy the universe
Ivarage
Diablo
All top tiers would be low 2-C
I don't know about the rimuru part, he's definitely a league of his own, my bright guess is 2-B/2-A
 
I discovered this when looking back on volume 21, it seems like a very significant quote if chatgpt translated it correctly.

Prompt (input)
Translate as accurately as possible and don't add anything unnecessary : だが、考えてみれば当然なのかも。 俺は今さっき目覚めたばかりだが、シエルさんは数え切れぬほどの時を、それこそ永遠とも思えるほどの永き間、俺が目覚めるのを待ち続けていたのである。 一人、孤独に……。
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Output
"But, now that I think about it, maybe it's only natural.
I just woke up moments ago, but Ciel-san had been waiting for me to awaken for an immeasurable amount of time—so long it could be considered an eternity.
Alone, in solitude..."
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Dark_Soul20189 said:
Pretty sure volume 21 otl is out...
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It is really bad, they straight up removed whole lines such as the one talking about how subspace can teleport you to the end of an empty universe or the great destruction before life was born and changed stuff unnecessarily like changing divine insect to micro god or the recreate the world tens of thousands of times over got changed to just thousands.
 
PrimeHydra64 said:
It is really bad, they straight up removed whole lines such as the one talking about how subspace can teleport you to the end of an empty universe or the great destruction before life was born and changed stuff unnecessarily like changing divine insect to micro god or the recreate the world tens of thousands of times over got changed to just thousands.
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Why am I not surprised that yenpress is somehow not only messing up translations, but also alternating it...
 
Violatas said:
Bro if this is true then **** yenpress oml 😭
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Yenpress is pretty much the same:
A very unusual sight, indeed, but it was probably natural. I had only just woken up, but Ciel had been waiting for me to open my eyes for what must have felt like an eternity. All alone in that solitude…
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It mentions eternity but not an immeasurable amount of time.
 
Mizuki67 said:
Yo translate that feldway part, where he could destroy the universe or whatever
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This one got translated by Seiji
Precisely. We've been launched somewhere in space-time by Feldway's Chrono Saltation. Although that planet's lifespan had long since been burnt up, it still hasn't come to the end of the world. My guess is that Feldway's power is limited to destroying the Central World's Universe.
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Tensura is NOT a multiverse! (Tensura cosmology downgrade)

I'm calling to question the very fact that since they vary in size, there is no factor of size when calling something a universe in Tensura. You also repeat the fact that two universes can be bigger or smaller. Something larger than the universe is also a universe, one of the two universes may...
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Re5yh said:
So should this be a tier 2 thing?
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I discussed this with @FinePoint ok discord and they said (unless my Alzheimer's is acting and I'm forgetting something) that as long as the Universe is shown to be a space-time continuum (infinite time across space) and has a finite amount of matter inside it along with ftl expanding space, it's already Low 2-C because of the uncountably infinite multiplier of time.

Of course, I could he forgetting something since this was, like, a month ago, so they may correct me.
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
I discussed this with @FinePoint ok discord and they said (unless my Alzheimer's is acting and I'm forgetting something) that as long as the Universe is shown to be a space-time continuum (infinite time across space) and has a finite amount of matter inside it along with ftl expanding space, it's already Low 2-C because of the uncountably infinite multiplier of time.

Of course, I could he forgetting something since this was, like, a month ago, so they may correct me.
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Its so simple and yet Rimuru is 5-B, likely 4-C on his profile. Smh.
 
AstraphelNoctis4 said:
This one
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Tensura CRT: Missing Ability Additions for Shizu Izawa

Hello, I'd like to propose the addition of several missing abilities for Shizu. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AstraphelNoctis4/Shizue%27s_missing_abilities Summary of proposed additions: 1. Fusionism and Fissionism (It's already listed in Rimuru’s profile, so I believe it has...
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This is so minor that it has no problem.
Currently there are 3 threads opened for WN, which is within the acceptable range.

For tensura verse, we can have 3 threads for WN and 3 for LN simultaneously. Tho anything beyond that is breaking the rules.
 
Bernkastelll said:
Both ig, mainly juices ofc, people often ask for natural juice (without sugar), but sometimes they feel like they should add some sugar so the restaurant give us some sachets like this, and the sugar and salt sachets are really similar so disasters like that happens
sugar-packets-in-restaurant.jpg
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Low-key that's a trap, in my country every table(from decent restaurants) comes with salt, sugar, black pepper and cameron pepper (not made in cameron), it's a staple here and there all labelled.
 
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AstraphelNoctis4 said:
This one
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Tensura CRT: Missing Ability Additions for Shizu Izawa

Hello, I'd like to propose the addition of several missing abilities for Shizu. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AstraphelNoctis4/Shizue%27s_missing_abilities Summary of proposed additions: 1. Fusionism and Fissionism (It's already listed in Rimuru’s profile, so I believe it has...
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Pretty good CRT btw. I'll give some more detailed input later when am on PC.

Also, you can add the Ultimate level abilities (except physiology related) too, given the flame is ultimate level. Such as magic, law and concept manip layers.

I'll also add a few stuff about her trading blows with diablo whereas primordials need ultimate level attacks to be harmed at all.
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Pretty good CRT btw. I'll give some more detailed input later when am on PC.
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Yeah thanks , I'll appreciate it .
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Also, you can add the Ultimate level abilities (except physiology related) too, given the flame is ultimate level. Such as magic, law and concept manip layers.

I'll also add a few stuff about her trading blows with diablo whereas primordials need ultimate level attacks to be harmed at all.
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I currently don’t have any arguments or scans prepared, as I’m rereading the novel again.
 
"Fuse once said that Rimuru in the light novel would surpass the web novel version in at least one aspect. So, what do you all think is the area where the light novel Rimuru is superior?"
 
LadyVeldanava said:
"Fuse once said that Rimuru in the light novel would surpass the web novel version in at least one aspect. So, what do you all think is the area where the light novel Rimuru is superior?"
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Don't remember fuse saying this. I read all his blogs and interviews there weren't any mention of rimuru LN surpassing WN, but anyways rimuru ln as he is<WN, simply because the laws of the world in WN is a bit more lax, like how rimuru in the wn can easily reverse time but Ln can't and how wn can easily have parallel existence and ln hasn't yet, just that the laws in light novel is far more complex so magic is a way more powerful tool currently. Rimuru light novel have one advantage and it's his endless regeneration, it's way more better than wn since now he can regen from nothing
 
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