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You could add that Time Eater's erasure was able to also to reach Bad Future Stardust Speedway as extra
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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I don’t believe egg reverie is accepted as immeasurable at this time.
The acceleration into the future also is just a dubism, it’s on the profile so it’s fine to include but I might not personally.
The acceleration into the future also is just a dubism, it’s on the profile so it’s fine to include but I might not personally.
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Does having two Multiverses in one cosmology affect anything important in Cosmology? Archie Sonic's Multiverse is infinite, but Megaman's multiverse is independent of this multiverse
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Depending on the context, it can be considered above "baseline" 2-A however actually getting that is pretty strict and AFAIK only DBH/Xeno, DnD and FF are the only verse's on the Wiki that fulfilled the necessary requirements, so...
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Oh yeah the Egg Reverie is just Resistance to Time stuff, that isn't strong for Immeasurable imo. Grants a layer here and there though
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The "multiverse" within Archie's Sonic Comics is that stemming from branching timelines. There are multiple statements within the run of the comics which confirm the existence of infinite Zones, with there being infinite variations on infinite possibilities, this is further exacerbated by Eggman telling Wily that there are infinite variations of there respective worlds.
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Image Spatio-Temporal-Branches in Nameless's images album
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Furthermore, Spatio-temporal variances creating other Zones explicitly leads us to each snapshot of time within a Zone producing an infinite amount of timelines by default due to the fact that the universe is infinite in size (and thus eternal) within Archie as well as their being an uncountably infinite number of moments of time, meaning a single Zone would be producing an uncountably infinite number of Zones. In contrast to the point above, this is a passive splintering of universes compared to the splintering caused by chosen actions/decisions.
With all of the surmised information above concerning the multiverse, with each Zone creating infinite variations of themselves, with those branches having further infinite variations themselves, with more Zones being created by actions, decisions & thoughts of the infinite number of beings which occupy a Zone as well as a passive splintering as a result of Spatio-temporal variance with every of the uncountably infinite snapshots of time creating an infinite number of universes, leads us to surmise that the multiverse contains an uncountable infinite amount of Zones making the multiverse infinite 5-D (Infinite Low 1-C) and continually expanding.
I started a discussion about all the cosmology structures from the old games being available in Archie. I plan to use it after I get it accepted.
Multiverse(s) = (Megaman's multiverse are different) Hypertimeline created every second by the infinite universe and Megaman's multiverse = Low 1-C Infinite hypertimeline
Maginary World = 6D
If they confirm that all the cosmology structures from the old games are available: End of time = 7D
Next Evolution = 8D
Chaos Energy = 9D
What do you think?
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The Yuda sprite being dead last is pure heresy to me, considering his quills/features are literally the best of all worlds shape-wise (not too low, not too high, spaced & angled just right, ascending dimensions, other exaggerated features, etc.)
To each their own...
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If the Goldilocks principle were personified, it would be Yuda/3&K Super Sonic.
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If it helps (and I meant to say this initially but the website wasn't working <3), the designs aren't individually ranked, just ranked by tier.
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Just to be clear, we need statements/evidence of characters being powered by them if they have emeralds, right? I haven't been able to find a statement of Robo-Sonic being powered by the Chaos Emerald, only that he carries it, but the bad ending implies his destruction is powerful enough to take out the Chaos Emerald with him (even though the good route shows the opposite), would that warrant a "possibly" for whatever an emerald's durability (Probably 4-A) is?
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That reminded me of something, not that I agree with it, I also prefer that the characters in possession of an emerald get some statement directly confirming that they are using the emerald to power themselves. But apparently in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) Shadow has a dialogue in Westopolis (the first level of the game) where after acquiring the first emerald of the game he says "Ah... I can feel the power welling up inside me!".
Apparently this would imply that just having an emerald in hand is enough to power up the characters.
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It’s implied a few times. Metal Sonic had a defunct Emerald in his Sonic Channel story, and just having it combined with his desire to win amplified his speed to exceed Sonic’s completely. He still lost the race, though, because the Emerald was defunct and his body was already damaged, he literally burns himself out into a husk right before the finish line.
The same happens with Silver. Simply being near it combined with his will to save literally amplifies his psychokinesis to hold up the entire structure of a bridge to save people when he literally couldn’t before that moment.
Both of these are also unintentional. Metal’s happens simply because he reflects and focuses everything on his speed, redefining himself as “the new concept of Metal Sonic,” and Silver’s happened just because he was desperate to use every fragment of his will to save people.
Implication being that even if you aren’t cognitively attempting to use an Emerald, simply having it on your person and exerting your will causes the Emerald to respond and amplify you to achieve your goals.
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Seems like IDW Sonic is finally reaching Sonic Frontiers' time as Sage is being teased to appear on Issue 84.
Don't know if they'll try to adapt the game, there'll be a time-skip, or something else. Sage did start the game already existing, so maybe they can be building-up a Sonic Frontiers' prequel.
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And here I was guessing that Sage/Frontiers-related content would be saved for Issue 100 hype. Saves me over a year of waiting so no complaints from me I guess
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Tbf they already referenced the events of Murder of Sonic... so they are already past Frontiers
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The commentary about it before had been that it wasn't really, at least is what I remember. In part because it was when the official comment was that MOSTH wasn't canon, so the idea is that "something quite like might have happened, or just a happy coincidence it fits".
The official word I remember we had before is that we will only be after Frontiers when Sage appears.
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This is what I remember as well, Omega is just coping because of the "references" made to it in IDW.
Hopefully breaching past Frontiers means a change to the status quo. Like, for example, actually seeing Tails/Knuckles/Amy do what they resolved to do by Frontiers' end.
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Can't help but remember the complaints stuff like Dream Team had because "Why are they all together and having fun? This breaks Frontiers' ending!"
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If they skip over that or if they aren't allowed to change
My Anger will count as a 1-A feat for this franchise
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Between this and the Sonic Blitz speculation, things seem to be getting interesting for the series...
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Deactivating Anti-Hypertime annihilation mechanism limiter... | Sonic Cosmology Downgrade Part ?: Hypertimelines
Sonic as well as the other god-tiers of the Sonic game continuity are currently rated as having 6D AP due to scaling to a cosmology with one extra spatial dimension on top of the already existing 3+1 dimensions, as well as an additional extra dimension via a "hypertimeline" that encompasses the...
Shake? Concerns your stuff.
ain't that the guy that got off scot-free for changing the definition of something on the wikipedia during one of his downgrade crts??
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Womp wah.
And it's about time.
IDW has been a snooze fest for months.
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Blitz is actually a real fun mobile game, guys. I love playing it.
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I think everyone already expected this, but here is Sage's look on IDW
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So hyped for this.
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Well, it seems like Belle will be involved in this as well. Should be interesting.
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Do you guys remember when Dr. Eggman asked Belle if she interfaced with Metal Sonic, then started getting really giddy about it?
My theory is that either Dr. Eggman used Belle as a basis to replicate the emotions of a living being to help create Sage, or Sage is somehow going to hijack Belle.
Or Belle could really just be there because it will explore more of her emotional envy in Eggman not seeing her as a daughter but then repping Sage as one. Poor girl lol
My theory is that either Dr. Eggman used Belle as a basis to replicate the emotions of a living being to help create Sage, or Sage is somehow going to hijack Belle.
Or Belle could really just be there because it will explore more of her emotional envy in Eggman not seeing her as a daughter but then repping Sage as one. Poor girl lol
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i mean, she IS Sage's... "older sister"? Technically sure... but still
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Honestly I'm glad to see this revision, it's a trial by fire to see if our arguments hold up against major scrutiny and debate while possibly bringing up new arguments that we didn't account for to help maintain accuracy for the Sonicverse hereDeactivating Anti-Hypertime annihilation mechanism limiter... | Sonic Cosmology Downgrade Part ?: Hypertimelines
Sonic as well as the other god-tiers of the Sonic game continuity are currently rated as having 6D AP due to scaling to a cosmology with one extra spatial dimension on top of the already existing 3+1 dimensions, as well as an additional extra dimension via a "hypertimeline" that encompasses the...vsbattles.com
Shake? Concerns your stuff.
ain't that the guy that got off scot-free for changing the definition of something on the wikipedia during one of his downgrade crts??
Also it's a great way to identify the detractors and enemies of both the Sonicverse and the supporters for future revisions (
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Since the thread still has 3 staff disagreements, I think it has until tomorrow to be fully rejected?
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Sounds great and all, but it has the potential to easily backfire if were not careful enough with what we say.
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We'll see. Personally I have the game verse at L1-C (Infinite 5D) via dreams/Cyberspace not really a fan of Hypertimelines in general tbh, but that's just my personal preference.
That's the thing isn't it? Unless you're confident in you're arguments you've already lost the debate. We can't just rate Sonic at a certain tier and expect everyone to be ok with it, without solid reasoning that's difficult if not nigh-impossible to debunk yet it's (mostly) subjective at the end of the day. Regardless of the outcome of the CRT at least lessons will be learned in this fun little hobby we partake in.
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I'm ngl, the guys against hypertime in that thread seem kinda confused.
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I’m confused but overall leaning towards agree with HT staying
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@Theuser789 @ShakeResounding I don't know if this really helps in this hypertimeline downgrade thread, I also don't even know if we should use this stuff, but I don't remember seeing this being brought up anywhere on the Wiki, so I wanted to share it.
On the official SonicChannel YouTube, there are Q&A videos answered by Sonic (Vtuber) where he usually answers everything with great accuracy to anything related to the games material and lore. In one of these videos, when answering a question about stages/places that stuck in his mind, Sonic mentions that he liked when the color went back to the areas and zones that the Time Eater attacked, and that it boils down to basically every place he's ever been. This would obviously include Blaze's dimension, Maginaryworld, Story Books Worlds, all Special Stages, all alternate futures of Sonic CD and etc:
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As I said at the beginning, I don't know exactly what this influences, but I think it's important to bring this up here in case it helps in any way.
On the official SonicChannel YouTube, there are Q&A videos answered by Sonic (Vtuber) where he usually answers everything with great accuracy to anything related to the games material and lore. In one of these videos, when answering a question about stages/places that stuck in his mind, Sonic mentions that he liked when the color went back to the areas and zones that the Time Eater attacked, and that it boils down to basically every place he's ever been. This would obviously include Blaze's dimension, Maginaryworld, Story Books Worlds, all Special Stages, all alternate futures of Sonic CD and etc:
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As I said at the beginning, I don't know exactly what this influences, but I think it's important to bring this up here in case it helps in any way.
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i don't know
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It helps to firmly say that the Time Eater attacked Crisis City, yeah.
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