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Superman (2025) Movie Spoiler Discussion Thread

Osemere said:
Ngl we should use that one Gunn statement which said that if his Superman tried to reverse time like the Reeve version he would destroy the Earth…
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This still isn't a viable statement even for a likely or possibly, the whole context was if Superman could reverse time like Flash, to which he said only in the donner movies and that of this were to happen in the current movie everyone would die. Its not saying that he can or even had the potential to do this, simply saying moreso if the same scenario were to occur it'd just kill everyone
Hypertornado099 said:
I think this is arguably superhuman precision, or maybe just an application of perception speed. Kryptonians should have resistance to poison for not being able to get drunk under a yellow sun too
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Could be both but yeah Superman does canonically have perception diwn to the microseconds in this verse so that is MHS, still though I don't think superhuman precision is entirely out of the question
 
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Emirp sumitpo said:
I don't think it means destroys the Earth, he seems to imply Supes can indeed reverse the Earth's axis, but just that doing so would kill everyone (Which is pretty scientifically accurate I think?). IIRC, this feat would be like, high end Tier 6?

Probably better to leave this as a likely.
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Personally, I'd wait until we get feats from official DCU projects. I'm not a fan of WoG, but it's accepted on the wiki, so I can't change that.
 
Dalesean027 said:
This still isn't a viable statement even for a likely or possibly, the whole context was if Superman could reverse time like Flash, to which he said only in the donner movies and that of this were to happen in the current movie everyone would die. Its not saying that he can or even had the potential to do this, simply saying moreso if the same scenario were to occur it'd just kill everyone
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I mean it's pretty obvious he's talking about DCU Supes trying to replicate Donner Supes' feat, in which he wouldn't be able to because no time hax.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I mean it's pretty obvious he's talking about DCU Supes trying to replicate Donner Supes' feat, in which he wouldn't be able to because no time hax.
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I didn't say otherwise but its clear he's not saying this Superman can actually stop the planets rotation like Superman in the donner films did, he just said if he could replicate that it wouldn't reverse time and would kill everyone, there's no implication that he actually has the strength to perform this feat this he's just entertaining the hypothetical that if he were to perform the same feat it wouldn't reverse time.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
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Despite it's issues, I actually enjoyed the first Wonder Woman movie. Then 1984 happened. The less said about that, the better.

Also Gal Gadot is a terrible actress.

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm really interested in seeing a new take on the character. I wanna see what DCU Wonder Woman is like.
 
Rex_Eckles said:
It's a bit of a stretch to call what Donner's Superman did a "time hax".
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I mean that's clearly what it is, no?

Dalesean027 said:
I didn't say otherwise but its clear he's not saying this Superman can actually stop the planets rotation like Superman in the donner films did, he just said if he could replicate that it wouldn't reverse time and would kill everyone, there's no implication that he actually has the strength to perform this feat this he's just entertaining the hypothetical that if he were to perform the same feat it wouldn't reverse time.
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Yeah but said feat requires you to turn back the planet axis, and realistically, such a thing would kill everyone on the planet instead of turning back time.
 
ShawnFaux said:
Despite it's issues, I actually enjoyed the first Wonder Woman movie. Then 1984 happened. The less said about that, the better.
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Same actually. In fact, I liked it well enough that even Gal Gadot seemed acceptable. And despite being MUCH weaker and honestly kind of wasted, I loved Ares in that movie (but again, he shouldn't have been used as a starter villain).
ShawnFaux said:
Basically what I'm saying is that I'm really interested in seeing a new take on the character. I wanna see what DCU Wonder Woman is like.
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Same. Like I said many times, I really hope we'll have a more mythologically-focused WW with gods and all. We can still include the likes of Viper and Cheetah in it but I hope Gunn will focus on the mythical elements
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I mean that's clearly what it is, no?


Yeah but said feat requires you to turn bamck the planet axis, and realistically, such a thing would kill everyone on the planet instead of turning back time.
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Right? But he's not actually saying david has the capabilities to actually turn the planet back or stop its rotation, its a hypothetical he is simply saying in the same situation david would not be able to reverse time and would kill everyone if he could do the same thing
 
ShawnFaux said:
Basically what I'm saying is that I'm really interested in seeing a new take on the character. I wanna see what DCU Wonder Woman is like.
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I’m hoping she has the clay origin this time around. The daughter of Zeus origin is really boring.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I mean that's clearly what it is, no?


Yeah but said feat requires you to turn back the planet axis, and realistically, such a thing would kill everyone on the planet instead of turning back time.
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I always thought Superman spinning the Earth backwards and forwards was just a visual representation going backwards and forwards in time, like building up enough speed to do so.
 


We do have that Titans movie coming up (Eventually) and Lex does have Superman's DNA. Ultraman was a failure because of his lack of intelligence, relying to heavily on being a stronger version of Superman with Lex's command.

Conner would be a step up, having both the brawn and brain, best of both worlds (James Gunn would definitely poke fun at Lex having a child with Superman)

"So, you had a baby with Superman?"
"...No! No, I did not. I took my DNA and I mixed with the sample we took of Superman which allowed us to created"
"A baby. Or I guess kid since he's like a teenager. But yeah, you had child with Superman. That's typically how it works. Baby's have both their parents features."
"N-No, he's clone of Superman...And me...At the same time. It's nothing like what you're suggesting"
 
for those who have also seen creature commando, how would you rank the Top 10 strongest characters in the DCU personally?
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
for those who have also seen creature commando, how would you rank the Top 10 strongest characters in the DCU personally?
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There's some vibe scaling that is necessary here since there is one Creature Commando who gets into High 8-C but narratively vibing the justice gang I feel should be stronger than him, so are we going off calcs alone ?
 
Well I'll go by my personal opinions

1. Superman
2. Supergirl
3.. Ultraman (Though he IS stronger than Superman physically and beat him at 100%, he gets diffed hard if he doesn't have proper support in combat)
4.Blue Beetle
5. Kryptonite Amped Metallo
5. Guy Gardner
6. Metamorpho
7. The Engineer
8. Mr. Terrifc or Hawkgirl
9. Mr. Terrific or Hawkgirl
10. The Kaiju or Starro (probably Starro, they are here because they are just durability merchant)
 
Dalesean027 said:
Well I'll go by my personal opinions

1. Superman
2. Supergirl
3.. Ultraman (Though he IS stronger than Superman physically and beat him at 100%, he gets diffed hard if he doesn't have proper support in combat)
4.Blue Beetle
5. Kryptonite Amped Metallo
5. Guy Gardner
6. Metamorpho
7. The Engineer
8. Mr. Terrifc or Hawkgirl
9. Mr. Terrific or Hawkgirl
10. The Kaiju or Starro (probably Starro, they are here because they are just durability merchant)
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Supergirl is probably not stronger than Ultraman because she's smaller
 
Hypertornado099 said:
Supergirl is probably not stronger than Ultraman because she's smaller
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Yeah but again if I went of purely AP or Dura alone this would have half the characters in different spots and Ultraman as number 1

She's above him for the same reason I have Superman above him, Ultraman without Luthor gets mega combo'd by Clark, I see no reason why she couldn't potentially do the same
 
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Rex_Eckles said:
It'd concretely put him in High 8-C+, given he's stated to be the strongest metahuman in the world. I personally am not convinced Clark's 8-B is valid.
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But if you're going to be using light canon to scale him anyways then he'd be above Blue Beetle who is 8-B already
 
Rex_Eckles said:
Not technically official yet, we'll have to wait for official DCU projects to reference it's events.
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We have a confirmed animated series coming that explicitly takes place after the movies ending, we know its overall events are canon same as The Suicide Squad

As long as Blue Beetle fights OMAC he is 8-B
 
Haven't watched creature commandos yet but is "the centre" a thing in it yet? cuz from i remember it seem like creature commandos supposedly was building towards it.
 
Secimatar said:
Haven't watched creature commandos yet but is "the centre" a thing in it yet? cuz from i remember it seem like creature commandos supposedly was building towards it.
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Not rhat I recall
 
How we feeling about self sustainance or space survival?

I think personally its fair game, obviously we have the statement that Superman can hold his breath for one hour but that doesn't necessarily work against the fact that he could still likely breathe in space the same as usual Superman versions are able to.

Like Superman can breathe in space but usually is not able to do so underwater (Sonic works the same way), I mean outside of this too mathwise I don't see him not having self sustainance because then he would die going from earth to the moon at the speeds we have him at consistently so far...

Krypto is also another can of worms since even worse than people dogs notoriously can not hold their breath for usually more than 10 seconds which just upscaling the same as Superman would mean he lowkey has even less time to breathe than him or we can be generous and give him an hour but still
 
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