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Wouldn't hitboxes count as game mechanics? Like in a real battle sitch, there would be actual holes in the earth uproot rather than an in-game collider blocking the "holes". Not sure if that should be translated into a real fight.Before you ask, no you cannot jump in between them. I tried that in game. It's just a big ass circular hitbox.
The weapons still have to be switched to use their respective skills, no? Even then, it looks like they can't be used simultaneously, especially while initiating a skill.All three of these weapons can be used in conjunction with each other as seen in this video with very little drawbacks. The only drawback these weapons have is the cooldown... which is 2 SECONDS EACH MOVE?![]()
I mean the entire thing would just explode ayways so that'll be a pointless tactic anyway,Like in a real battle sitch, there would be actual holes in the earth uproot rather than an in-game collider blocking the "holes". Not sure if that should be translated into a real fight.
Not quite. Sure, he may be unaffected by the effects but not by the damage of said weapons.Other than that, I do spot the energy blade and excalibur might be invalidated via Ryuga's resistances
These aren't anything Ryuga hasnt dealt with before as he has dealt with electric attacks before with no problem. Also, the electricity he resists instantly vaporizes you and your soul so these things along with the 3x gap are gonna do nothing to him.Energy Blade
Zig-Zag allows for Player to blitz the unholy shit out of him.
Thunder Strikes casually summons instahit lightning to just knock the unholy sonic rings out of him.
Ball Shot is... well.. a ball shot. It's for pressure and it summons lightning around the area hit.
Ball Slam just makes close range just not an option for Ryuga period.
Energy blade will be really annoying for Ryuga to deal with.
A bit more challenging to deal with but not impossible. Only really dangerous ones here are the barrage and split, Barrage can be counted by just dodging them normally. Do the homing sharks constantly seek him out if they dont hit or do they just miss if he dodges? For Whirlwind Split, Ryuga has faced guys with bigger weapons before so he could just jump out of the way and the AoE (and any other aoe attack) he could also jump out of the way of it like his two buddies did here (how far away the object was added for reference)The Sea Beast (Samehada)
Water Walls, again, make close ranged not even an option for Ryuga. The moment one gets hit by this, they're immediately stunned then knocked into the water walls, just straight up leaving them there to die.
Water Beam. A long ranged slammer. Drags any opponent hit by it, dooming them to take the full damage, and if they're not killed by it, the shark orb will.
Water Shark Barrage: Homing Hell. Shoots explosive sharks that when they explode, summon another explosive shark that track the nearest entity.
Whirlwind Split. AIDS. Whirls around his Samehada, grabbing nearby entities if caught, before SLAMMING it into the ground, creating massive water walls that are just damn near impossible to dodge.
This one is mostly the same as the other posts & he resists fire that instantly burns your soul. Also to bring up, he can #GAROThrow his sword at them even able to hit guys mid air. And what stops Ryuga from preventing these moves from even hitting by doing something like this. (and hitboxes are game mechanics)Hell's Excalibur:
Charge, again, allows for Player to blitz the unholy shit out of him, albeit a bit slower than zig-zag.
Double Slam: Ryuga won't even have any business in front of him, or anywhere near him for that matter.
Thunderflame Gun: Player shoots explosive flames out of the weapon, great for pressure.
Earth Uproot. Steroids. Player slams his Hell's Excalibur into the ground, summoning a shockwave that stuns, then straight up explodes. Before you ask, no you cannot jump in between them. I tried that in game. It's just a big ass circular hitbox.
He's unaffected by being fried but not by being damaged by said lightning so that's irrelevant.Also, the electricity he resists instantly vaporizes you and your soul so these things along with the 3x gap are gonna do nothing to him.
If it explodes near them, the shark that comes out the explosion will costantly seek them out. However, nothing is stopping player from going into mid air and shooting the sharks and from that point, the splash just f***s over Ryuga big time.Do the homing sharks constantly seek him out if they dont hit or do they just miss if he dodges?
Doubt it. Ryuga won't even know what's coming until he actually slams Samehada, THEN he will know how to deal with it. He won't know how to deal with it off the rip.the AoE (and any other aoe attack) he could also jump out of the way of it like his two buddies did here (how far away the object was added for reference)
They're explosive as well so that's irrelevant.This one is mostly the same as the other posts & he resists fire that instantly burns your soul.
That's an almighty death sentence. Trying to jump it def won't work as the entire area of Earth Uproot explodes so trying to go in between the cracks or trying to jump it woud just mean you tried to avoid it for no reason and just get blown up.And what stops Ryuga from preventing these moves from even hitting by doing something like this.
They're gonna do minimal damage since the main part of the ability is negatedHe's unaffected by being fried but not by being damaged by said lightning so that's irrelevant.
going mid air on a guy that can hit people mid air, basically fly and jump extremely high? And you do know ryuga still has his shurikens to throw at him? And JC can't move midair when he's doing this, he's just gonna get #GAROThrow and get cut in halfIf it explodes near them, the shark that comes out the explosion will costantly seek them out. However, nothing is stopping player from going into mid air and shooting the sharks and from that point, the splash just f***s over Ryuga big time.
Except yk, the clip of zaruba warning ryuga about an attack he didn't know about right before it happened and allowed him to dodge it.Doubt it. Ryuga won't even know what's coming until he actually slams Samehada, THEN he will know how to deal with it. He won't know how to deal with it off the rip.
durability, they aren't doing muchThey're explosive as well so that's irrelevant.
I've already shown how high they can jump, he most definitely could jump up to avoid itThat's an almighty death sentence. Trying to jump it def won't work as the entire area of Earth Uproot explodes so trying to go in between the cracks or trying to jump it woud just mean you tried to avoid it for no reason and just get blown up.
Cooldowns really don't play a factor here. Especially since how skilled Ryuga is and how most of those moves have windup time, he could easily counter before they hit or hell just block them before the sword before the abilities finish. Or what's even stopping the swords JC is using from being cut in half, effectively making them useless.Ryuga can't really be fancy around player as that's just a death sentence.
Did I mention that the cooldowns are two seconds each move? No? The cooldowns are two seconds each move. Player will spam the absolute s*** out of these skills and he's really accurate with these skills. He can stop using these skills at any time in case he messes up and just pop another skill right afterward.
Except all mythical skills have explosive damage so thats again kinda irrelevant.They're gonna do minimal damage since the main part of the ability is negated
He can stop firing at any time in case he sees something about to go wrong. You haven't really addressed how the homing sharks are not gonna screw him over so...going mid air on a guy that can hit people mid air, basically fly and jump extremely high? And you do know ryuga still has his shurikens to throw at him? And JC can't move midair when he's doing this, he's just gonna get #GAROThrow and get cut in half
See heres the kicker. Zaruba knew the attack was coming from above. Zaruba would likely warn him about the attack ahead, however he wouldn't know what it is, therefore the best Ryuga can do is try to move out the way. It could be anything since Zaruba nor Ryuga wouldn't have seen the attack yes.Except yk, the clip of zaruba warning ryuga about an attack he didn't know about right before it happened and allowed him to dodge it.
Mythical weapons are FAR stronger than every other weapon in the game, capable of eviserating even the Matatabi within mere moments.durability, they aren't doing much
Above.durability, they aren't doing much
Water beam superior LS grab snipe.I've already shown how high they can jump, he most definitely could jump up to avoid it
Block this??? Doubt it. I doubt ryuga has ever been shown to block attacks a bajillion times bigger than him.just block them before the sword before the abilities finish.
They absolutely do. Player can overwhelm Ryuga with the sheer amount of skills than he can pop at basically any moment.Cooldowns really don't play a factor here.
That's just an absolute death sentence. He would have to get close which is not an option considering the mass amount of skills that are built for "get off me" encounters.Or what's even stopping the swords JC is using from being cut in half, effectively making them useless.
the guy who casually dodges attacks hes not even looking at and upscales guys who casually block teleporting dudes? Homing attacks are nothing to this + acrobatics + can just deflect itHe can stop firing at any time in case he sees something about to go wrong. You haven't really addressed how the homing sharks are not gonna screw him over so...
Even if he did tell Ryuga to move, these guys can jump to cloud height from underground, he's easily evading it.See heres the kicker. Zaruba knew the attack was coming from above. Zaruba would likely warn him about the attack ahead, however he wouldn't know what it is, therefore the best Ryuga can do is try to move out the way. It could be anything since Zaruba nor Ryuga wouldn't have seen the attack yes.
Cool, doesn't matter if they either dont hit or get blockedMythical weapons are FAR stronger than every other weapon in the game, capable of eviserating even the Matatabi within mere moments.
The attack he can blatanly see and easily dodge with his far superior acrobatics?Water beam superior LS grab snipe.
You're reaching, you haven't even looked at the clipsBlock this??? Doubt it. I doubt ryuga has ever been shown to block attacks a bajillion times bigger than him.
All attacks that can be like, easily stopped or dodged and given the skill gap between the two, hes more than capable of doing.They absolutely do. Player can overwhelm Ryuga with the sheer amount of skills than he can pop at basically any moment.
Cool, nearly all of his attacks have windup time. he can easily see the swords about to come down and hit him before it connects. Especially against someone who ALWAYS fights close range and aggressive, trying to take opponents down as quickly as possible.That's just an absolute death sentence. He would have to get close which is not an option considering the mass amount of skills that are built for "get off me" encounters.
AoE does not make your ability more impressive. Need i remind you, He avoids all of them by simply jumpingYou haven't shown that Ryuga has dealt with spam AOE attacks before. You've only shown that he dealt with Electric attacks before but not spam AOE, which player will end up doing. Ryuga doesn't have enough skill to deal with that.
would be a shame if he could, idk, fight mid air or somethingHe can try to jump the abilities but he'll just get god sniped by water beam.
All of their abilities have very obvious charge up, wether theyre short ones or not. This isnt a video game, he can just like... stop him, kick the sword away or do anything a real human would do if an attack is coming at him. Again rememeber, hes essentially dual wielding here. Can block the sword with one weapon and cut him in half with the other.Close ranged is a hell no as theres too many abilites that have very little telegraphability, and is just a get off me tool, and would just f*** him over BADLY.
Do i need keep bringing up dodging attacks he cant see or teleporting or do we have the picture now? the type of attack doesnt matter if he hasnt or not, he has the acrobatic and skill feats to dodge itRanged? In his dreams maybe. Explosive water sharks and water beam would just god slam Ryuga as Ryuga hasn't dealt with homing attacks or grab beam attacks before.
Player wont even do this nor spam them. again, random youtube clips are not accepted canon. They arent accurate representations of a characters abilities. This is why no one says the guy from Fortnite can do stuff like this, its dishonest at best and wank at worst to try and skew arguments in your favortThink of this video but crazier (since the damage "cooldown" is game mechanics). You think Ryuga has the skill to deal with this but times crack?? That's just too much and thats unholy.
So you're telling me that he'll be able to dodge all 8 of these? I highly doubt that. The electricity that was shown that Ryuga dealt with was not insta hit like John Combat's. Mind you they're explosive as well.the guy who casually dodges attacks hes not even looking at and upscales guys who casually block teleporting dudes? Homing attacks are nothing to this + acrobatics + can just deflect it
But how tho if he never seen the move nor knows what the move does? The slam into the water walls is instant pretty much.Even if he did tell Ryuga to move, these guys can jump to cloud height from underground, he's easily evading it.
Ah yes. An insta hit doesn't it.Cool, doesn't matter if they either dont hit or get blocked
Or hear me out, he can aim and track him like a hawk, pretty much dooming him.The attack he can blatanly see and easily dodge with his far superior acrobatics?
I have. The fact that he could deflect that big sword says a lot. Too bad that he has inferior LS to John Combat and again he has not been shown to deflect anything remotely close to this.You're reaching, you haven't even looked at the clips
Godsniped by waterbeam.AoE does not make your ability more impressive. Need i remind you, He avoids all of them by simply jumping
Superior LS + it just snags bro as soon as it connects. I doubt that.would be a shame if he could, idk, fight mid air or something
That's, again, a death sentence. Player also fights close ranged but player overall has better close ranged options.Especially against someone who ALWAYS fights close range and aggressive, trying to take opponents down as quickly as possible.
Superior LS.Can block the sword with one weapon
Aw man, if only player could do that too.Again rememeber, hes essentially dual wielding here.
Sooo what would you even like as accepted evidence from a character with no cutscenes in the game whatsoever? John Combat just kills s*** bc it's just what they do. Combat Warriors is not a damn AI nor a movie/anime character. He's a player insert who is capable of doing the things shown previously and I have no idea why people even have issues with this, knowing it's what they can do.Player wont even do this nor spam them. again, random youtube clips are not accepted canon.
You doubting something doesnt mean he cant. Need i keep reminding you he regularly keeps up with guys who casually tag other guys who are teleporting, these attack are nothing to him. AlsoSo you're telling me that he'll be able to dodge all 8 of these? I highly doubt that. The electricity that was shown that Ryuga dealt with was not insta hit like John Combat's. Mind you they're explosive as well.
Limited Resistance to Purification, Soul Manipulation (Contains: Mind, Memory & Feelings) Explosion Manipulation (Makai Knights can take hits from Soul Metal)
Skill and acrobatics, hell id even argue he wouldnt get to pull it off. As soon as he goes up to slam, Ryuga's already leaping at him which he can, again do by jumping.But how tho if he never seen the move nor knows what the move does? The slam into the water walls is instant pretty much.
See first point.Ah yes. An insta hit doesn't it.
With Ryugas level of acrobatics and dodging feats? Also this literally isnt anything special, he could get past this by literally moving faster than the beamOr hear me out, he can aim and track him like a hawk, pretty much dooming him.
He doesn't need to deflect it, all he would need to do just like... jump back like he did against Ago.I have. The fact that he could deflect that big sword says a lot. Too bad that he has inferior LS to John Combat and again he has not been shown to deflect anything remotely close to this.
Gets countered by acrobatics + running. Not sure how you think guys doing crazy acrobatics and spend nearly their whole lives fighting and can beat guys teleporting... cant counter a straight beamGodsniped by waterbeam.
Ryuga would just need one cut or stab to end the fight.That's, again, a death sentence. Player also fights close ranged but player overall has better close ranged options.
Only stops you from being permanently restrained, doesnt stop you from being briefly blocked especially if hes gonna instantly cut him right afterSuperior LS.
Cant use it at the same time as the other abilitiesAw man, if only player could do that too.
Using multiple different types of weapons, acrobatic featsSooo what would you even like as accepted evidence from a character with no cutscenes in the game whatsoever? John Combat just kills s*** bc it's just what they do. Combat Warriors is not a damn AI nor a movie/anime character.
Do i have to bring up the Fortnite example again? This is literally what you are doing, Would me using a new players gameplay and saying "See he cant do this!!" be just as valid or is it only when we wanna get the highest rating possible? And before you say it, the canon argument doesnt apply here because CW has no canon (Having no canon, no story & using items from copyrighted stuff like his mythics already makes him ineligible to even be on here)He's a player insert who is capable of doing the things shown previously and I have no idea why people even have issues with this, knowing it's what they can do.
Also, player has dealt with high jumpers before. Again, again, again, again... wait he's trickshotting there which player can do, can trickshot, and high jump trickshot...
All of those is what player can do and what player has dealt with before. I don't know what to tell you. He's a player insert with clips on youtube showing what they can do, but if you have a problem with it, I'm not even sure if you have any business making matches with roblox player inserts.
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Address this.Also, I used this exact video in this thread in this post and shadowslash didn't have a problem with it (no offense to shadowslash). I've actually used some of these same videos in that thread as well. Why you're having a problem with it? I have absolutely no clue.
Stonewall. That's all I needed to know.Something happening in a completely different match doesnt apply here
Player wont even do this nor spam them. again, random youtube clips are not accepted canon. They arent accurate representations of a characters abilities. This is why no one says the guy from Fortnite can do stuff like this, its dishonest at best and wank at worst to try and skew arguments in your favort
The main point both parties are bickering about is gameplay footage. Gameplay footage about what a certain ability is like and how it's used is fine. Especially if said game only has gameplay to go about.All of those is what player can do and what player has dealt with before. I don't know what to tell you. He's a player insert with clips on youtube showing what they can do, but if you have a problem with it, I'm not even sure if you have any business making matches with roblox player inserts.
Hence, why I never really questioned the nature and how it's done, although some mechanics lean on the game mechanics kinda side (the twirl to jump thing and certain hitbox-related stuff, for example). If it weren't the case, 75% of game verses can't use their gameplay as scans to get abilities. Kiryu can't do heat actions, and Steve won't be able to place blocks.Also, I used this exact video in this thread in this post and shadowslash didn't have a problem with it (no offense to shadowslash). I've actually used some of these same videos in that thread as well. Why you're having a problem with it? I have absolutely no clue.
Cooldowns maybe 2 seconds, but certain skill animations take a small window of time before they finally attack. The Samehada looks like it can only be used effectively with both hands supporting the handle. Same can probably be said for Crucible, and the one hand idle is being supported by the shoulder.Did I mention that the cooldowns are two seconds each move? No? The cooldowns are two seconds each move. Player will spam the absolute s*** out of these skills and he's really accurate with these skills. He can stop using these skills at any time in case he messes up and just pop another skill right afterward.
It'd be more convenient and nicer if you got those clips saved in an album on imgur or something. It might be a preference thing, but it's quite convenient and aids in getting scans in a pinch.Also, I used this exact video in this thread in this post and shadowslash didn't have a problem with it (no offense to shadowslash). I've actually used some of these same videos in that thread as well. Why you're having a problem with it? I have absolutely no clue.
My guy, that is literally flying. You even have flight listed in the Makai Knight Physiology. That ain't jumping no more.by simply jumping
Here. he two shots people comparable to him, not those stronger than him. Hes gonna need to do a bit more
Fix that shit now or something. Attack Reflection, depending on how it's shown, can turn the tides and deflect shit JC might throw at you.I'll fix it later but so does ryuga. He cuts guys comparable to him In half with one swing
Did forget that would count. if we could count it, he could probably do stuff like this (probably not as well as actually flying tho)My guy, that is literally flying. You even have flight listed in the Makai Knight Physiology. That ain't jumping no more.
thought it was fixed cuz it was working on my end, but this is generally what it looks likeFix that shit now or something. Attack Reflection, depending on how it's shown, can turn the tides and deflect shit JC might throw at you.
That kinda fly, tho.Did forget that would count. if we could count it, he could probably do stuff like this (probably not as well as actually flying tho)
Cool, but not sure how it's going to deflect bigger projectiles tho.thought it was fixed cuz it was working on my end, but this is generally what it looks like
Maybe not deflect it but it could cut through them like guys way lower than him can. Though given the strength gap and that Ryuga upscales his quite a bit, he could probably take (able to take a vastly more powerful electric blast long enough to kill the horror and a normal attack from them being enough to instantly turn someone to ash) an attack like the beam long enough for him to get a hit in.Cool, but not sure how it's going to deflect bigger projectiles tho.
It's why I hate going against video game characters. We just assume every fight the video game character goes on a 100% completion, no damage taken run every time. Yea that might happen a time or two, but we know damn well people die in stupidest ways possible and that's never considered.Skills (the skill for fighting intelligence stuff) shown for the gameplay is more unclear and dubious since there's not much to lean on besides the showings. Due to the nature of roblox, it's weird to gauge it, but I figure it'd be based on the most skilled players. The least we know is that JC is able to utilise any weapons, skills and fists to fight adequately. The big problem is that when Roblox guy gets pitted against characters with accurate skill descriptions and scaling chains and whatnot, those voting would naturally gravitate to the one that has consistent skill feats. This is why JC got dunked on when fighting Guts (though this is without mythical weapons, but it's still worth noting). I figure Ryuga has some sort of skill feat scaling chain since he defeated Jinga who was a former Makai Knight (I skimmed the profiles).
Also, that Guts win hasn't been added for some reason.
About that...It's why I hate going against video game characters. We just assume every fight the video game character goes on a 100% completion, no damage taken run every time. Yea that might happen a time or two, but we know damn well people die in stupidest ways possible and that's never considered.
Missed my point. "We just assume every fight the video game character goes on a 100% completion, no damage taken run every time"About that...
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But hey. Godspeed.