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Superman (2025) Movie Spoiler Discussion Thread
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I just realized something that needs to be added to whatever profile Lex has.
Social Influence. Not the ones involving his manipulation of the government, nor of the news, hell not even his position as one of the most powerful people on the planet.
No, he needs a social influence reference entirely around his pocket dimension of Anti-Superman monkeys. THE MAN NEEDS THE POWER OF RAGEBAIT!
Social Influence. Not the ones involving his manipulation of the government, nor of the news, hell not even his position as one of the most powerful people on the planet.
No, he needs a social influence reference entirely around his pocket dimension of Anti-Superman monkeys. THE MAN NEEDS THE POWER OF RAGEBAIT!
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Pocket dimensions monkeys posing as twitter users is some insane shit I could never come up with
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Genuinely one of the most wild hater-feats I've ever seen. Some Reverse Flash type shit, and one of the funniest jokes in the movie.
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Also looking at this draft, shouldn't this Superman just be straight up 8-B? Considering he consistently does fly through shit to cause enough destructionDo you prefer this one over this?
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Dinobot1996
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At this point, Superman scales comfortably above at least two High 8-C feats, possibly three if Starro's GPE is revised. So I don't think 8-B+ scaling for Superman would have any real issues. Heck, he might even be able to reach 8-A if the typhoon comparison from the prequel novel is taken at face value.
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Metamorpho's mini star could honestly yield some interesting results, because Bloodborne has a similar thing going on. Maybe something within Tier 7, that and upscaling statements of Supes being the strongest being on the planet, with planetwatch being the only thing that could stand against him, that'll yield something interesting.
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I don't remember that implication? Do you remember what the line was?
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I wanna shout out Ma and Pa Kent in this movie really quick, because I think they were great. Just this wholesome older couple that look and talk like a lot of people I knew in real life growing up.
I really loved the pep-talk John gave Clark towards the end. The exact words he used weren't groundbreaking, but they didn't have to be, you can feel the love behind them regardless. It really felt like something my dad would have said to me when he was still around. Very simple, but just as sweet and heartfelt.
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Yes and no? They don't state that, but it does seem ooc for Superman to retreat, especially if he did retreat, Lex would've made a huge deal out of that.
But KE wise that would be like 8-B to 8-A I think.
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He craters in Antarctica after being defeated by Ultraman (first time he lost a fight), gets recharged, and then flies back to the fight in Metropolis.
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Very beginning of the film.
3 hours ago, Superman fights The Hammer of Boravia
3 minutes ago, Superman suffered his first loss
Then it shows Superman being launched towards the artic ground with The Hammer still in the city doing his thing. So there is pretty solid implications that he did legit get punched hard enough to send him to the artic in 3 minutes.
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I mean yeah I suppose I do also agree tho that it is out of character for this Superman to flee back to the fortress mid battle so this does feel like its more likely
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Do they state where Metropolis is located in America?
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Deleware, I already have the calc in my blog
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Delaware, I don't believe it's ever directly stated but a map in the movie has Delaware Bay on it
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Anyway, rough calc of the KE got me like 2.48 Tons of TNT. Barely above baseline High 8-C. Ouch.
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We beating Starro with the literal first scene of this movie folks
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He does hurt Clark several times, and harms Ultraman, though I don't think he really needs one. He doesn't really show any powers throughout the film other than being a flying brick from my recollection and is mostly just a dog in all of his scenes.
Does work for optional equipment/summoning tho.
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I meant Ultraman punching Supes to the articnah its 8-B+ that's where that comes from
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That is what they linked, yes
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That's fair, makes sense. He doesn't seem to have any of Clark's other abilities outside of flight and stats. Though I kinda hope he at least has the laser eyes and just didn't use them, that would be funny.
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yeah that's what this is
Of course he deserves his own profile, since when did not being haxy not qualify people for having profiles if that's the logic then nuke invincible or a lot of low tier verses
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To be fair, Starro might be able to get an upgrade, considering I found a VFX article stating that he's 150 feet tall, which I estimated using his existing GPE formula to put him at 6.273382430449401 tons, almost at the midpoint of High 8-C. Of course, someone would still need to create a blog and get it approved before any upgrades can be made...We beating Starro with the literal first scene of this movie folks
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Bro get that bum past Krypto first
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It was less of "he has no hax" and more "He's shown flight........ and that's it". Plenty of low-tier verses have very few powers but I've never been a fan of a profile that is just all the default stuff everyone gets and like one power. Like Saul Goodman might not have much abilities but he has something going for him other than just stats and a rather basic movement power.
Krypto on the other hand currently only has flight, scaling, and just basic dog concepts. I'm not a fan of giving him a profile at least until future media gives him more stuff (he's returning with Supergirl, let's be honest)
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Krypto might fly through him and rip out his spine.Bro get that bum past Krypto first
Anyway, I give the movie a 8.8/10 but in like a day and without my bias (love supes, he the goat of DC) it'll simmer down like a whole point.
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Flight
Superhuman physicals
Space Survivial (which entails radiation resistance, temp resistance, and self sustainance)
And possibly more if we look for it.
He would still downscale Superman and Ultraman since he does harm both and smacks around Engineer
Thats more than enough to qualify
dawg even if he only had superhuman physicals that alone would qualify him for a profile
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The idea of Homelander losing to a dog with the same powers as him is peak Homelander-slander (Homeslander, if you will), I love it.
Anyway I have similar feelings about the movie, I think I'm gonna settle at a strong 7/10.
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He doesn't show that trait in the film, that's an assumption (I recall mentions earlier of Supergirl using a spaceship so idk how consistent that is). Granted its a very fair assumption but it does further the idea that any profile for Krypto would be rather half-baked due to sheer lack of showings.
IIRC he got no diffed by Engineer. So his only real feat is smacking Superman and Ultraman around (which even then could be questionable since Supergirl does show that Krypto's antics aren't really that harmful, with Ultraman additionally being surprised attacked by Krypto for his scene)
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I think Krypto used heat vision in the A Friendship Unleashed comic
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Welp, if there's actual stuff in other media I concede.
GIVE HOMELANDER THE MAILMAN TREATMENT BOY!
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Him and Superman are literally chilling on the moon in the movie what are you on about
Dawg the engineer beat him not even via AP, he slapped and hurt her then she covered his face in nanobots that also gave Superman a hard time so hardly an anti-feat for any scaling, then he duffs Ultraman sending him reeling to a wall, he mogs a whole squad of raptors with Superman like what are we really on about, and he's not trying to harm Supergirl so why even mention him just playing with her as an anti-feat???
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Just looked up that comic. I love that it's sponsored by Milk-Bone
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Forgot the mid-post credit scene. (The movie didn't leave that big of an impression with them ngl)Him and Superman are literally chilling on the moon what are you on about
I don't recall him hurting her (pretty sure she walked away from that whole thing with no damage due to the nanobots). And Krypto actively does more damage when playing with Supergirl than with Clark as he actively craters the ground when he sees her. I'm not saying he doesn't scale to anyone at all but out of the big hitters of the movie he is the lowest of the group scaling wise.
Regardless, the realization that Krypto actually has a comic where he does stuff removes any problems I personally have. Him showing more of his defining traits make him more of a character rather than a template for future films.
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