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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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Yep! I'm probably going to do Jadus first since he's got like 10 minutes of screentime then I'll work on the other three since they're mostly congruent.
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Holy shit. This is way more detailed than what I had in mind yet still concise enough to easily read. Good workWhat do you think?
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Feel free to send me character statements/feats.
I just ask that you always link to the references.
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Darth Marr solos the entire Jedi Order in Republic era except Yoda.
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Does the current canon interpretation of Luke vs Vader treat him as specifically more skilled? From what I know, it's a trading of blows at a similar level that is then compounded by a greater level of power due to Luke tapping into the dark side
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The main point of episode 6 is that Luke never succumbs to the dark side; he comes close, but it doesn't happen.
The database states that he uses anger, but anger isn't the same as accessing the dark side, since some Jedi battlesaber forms utilize anger without accessing the dark side.
Furthermore, even if he had used the dark side, it is currently accepted (in vsbattle) that the dark side confers greater combat ability, so it would be the same. And I'm not sure that the increase in physical power this way is as direct as DB.
Although Luke uses Force Choke at the beginning of the film, was it only considered a dark side technique decades later?
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Yeah, he doesn't succumb to the dark side. I never claimed that. Only that he tapped into it due to his anger
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I don't think so. I think it was more in the context that it was at this moment that Luke truly fought with all his might.
Throughout the film, Luke didn't want to fight/kill his father. He repeatedly refused to fight Vader.
And even in the final fight, Luke remains defensive for a long time, even hiding from Vader, telling him he won't fight him. It's only when Vader mentions corrupting Leia that Luke steps forward, wanting to truly fight seriously and go all out.
I see Vader's defeat more as Luke fighting seriously for the first time in the film, wanting to defeat Vader, than him accessing some aspect of the dark side and becoming more powerful.
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"Your hate has made you powerful" Sidious says
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As I said, I don't take this literally, since Luke was only really fighting for the sake of fighting at this point.
But well, if I ever put this blog up for grabs, I think we can discuss this further.
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Bruh when pretty much every written version of that scene including the source material says Luke drew upon his anger and fear for power, that probably means he drew upon his anger and fear for power lmao
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Guide released in 2013, I don't think we can use it.
But where else is the issue of becoming more powerful (like physically) mentioned? At least in the database it's only said that when using rage Luke attacked Vader more violently, dominating him.
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More specifically, Yarael Poof is a Prequel Era Jedi
Thankfully, I got respect threads that will help you immensely.
Revan Respect Thread:
Darth Malak has no such luck as literally no one has done respect thread for him although there were some attempts.
#DarthMalakDeservesSomeRespect
Anyway, Darth Nihilus’s respect thread:
And here is Darth Jadus’s respect thread:
Darth Jadus Respect Thread - Gen. Discussion - Comic Vine
"An hour ago, the Minister of Intelligence dropped to his knees and wept before me. You would do so, too, if not for fear of being humiliated." —Darth
comicvine.gamespot.com
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The book Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know came out in September 2015, and the first season of Rebels ended in March 2015.
So can we say that the top 5 red lightsaber users take into account the existence of the Inquisitors?
So [Inquisitors < Grand Inquisitor < Asajj Ventress]?
So can we say that the top 5 red lightsaber users take into account the existence of the Inquisitors?
So [Inquisitors < Grand Inquisitor < Asajj Ventress]?
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Except for Asajj LOSING to an Inquisitor in her tales of the empire
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It's just that at that moment she was using a yellow lightsaber and not a red one, so it doesn't count.
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Oh yeah, she was getting her ass kicked later on the fight although it is possible she is rusty since she haven’t been in active combat for a long time
Still it is something to note of as well
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Also now I think about it, she is not in her prime since the Clone War era and I assume it has been years or decades since Ventress got herself into a lightsaber fight and laying low. (It is shown in the Bad Batch where we see her making a appearance later on)
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Oh, she also got the resurrection scene as well.
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I wonder when my excitement for Star Wars will end.
I was thinking about taking a break when I finished separating Canon and Legends.
But ever since @Sir_Marvulous mentioned wanting a skill blog, I haven't stopped messing around in the sandbox.
I don't know why I feel this way; I didn't even feel this way when messing around with my favorite verses in VS Battle. Maybe it's the excitement of seeing things being built, since the verse was completely outdated.
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The initial impulse was that I started playing Fallen Order, so if I play Hogwarts Legacy, will I be excited to update the Harry Potter verse?
I was thinking about taking a break when I finished separating Canon and Legends.
But ever since @Sir_Marvulous mentioned wanting a skill blog, I haven't stopped messing around in the sandbox.
I don't know why I feel this way; I didn't even feel this way when messing around with my favorite verses in VS Battle. Maybe it's the excitement of seeing things being built, since the verse was completely outdated.
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The initial impulse was that I started playing Fallen Order, so if I play Hogwarts Legacy, will I be excited to update the Harry Potter verse?
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@Phsccarvalho I had once created my own Star Wars Timeline and I'm curious on how powerful characters are based on it, up for looking at it if you don't mind going insane:
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I made an update in the sandbox.
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Did you know the Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know guide? We have to be careful when using it.
Despite being listed as canon on the fandom wiki and Holocron, it's said that the first version contains Legends content, and even a Lucasfilm member mentioned this. In addition to the incorrect content section,
So we should be getting information from the 2017 updated version (Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded). Unfortunately, I couldn't find any PDFs of that version.
For now, I'll keep those three scans that are in the sandbox (top red lightsabers, Yoda, master of all lightsaber styles, and members of the Jedi Council), but I don't think I'll post new scans of this unless it's from the 2017 version.
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I checked, and the scans used also appear in the 2017 updated version, so I think it's valid.I made an update in the sandbox.
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Did you know the Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know guide? We have to be careful when using it.
Despite being listed as canon on the fandom wiki and Holocron, it's said that the first version contains Legends content, and even a Lucasfilm member mentioned this. In addition to the incorrect content section,
So we should be getting information from the 2017 updated version (Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded). Unfortunately, I couldn't find any PDFs of that version.
For now, I'll keep those three scans that are in the sandbox (top red lightsabers, Yoda, master of all lightsaber styles, and members of the Jedi Council), but I don't think I'll post new scans of this unless it's from the 2017 version.
Another thing I discovered is that the Grand Inquisitor knows all lightsaber forms and also knows how to counter all of them.
Shit, if this continues, the upper skill level of the verse will be made up of guys who are as skilled, if not more so, than guys who know all lightsaber forms, as well as how to counter all of them.
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What about Star Wars The Complete Encyclopedia?
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2008, probably not canonical. Unless you're talking about something else, it's a very generic name.
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2008, probably not canonical.
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Right now, I'm trying to find general statements about the Jedi. Like, how skilled they are compared to warriors who don't use the Force.
I only remember Anakin saying in Episode 1 that Jedi can't be defeated. But I wanted something more.
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I'd like to offer my opinion.
If I were to make a CRT for this lightsaber combat sandbox,
Should I first propose the blog without the character statements/feats and scale, so that it would initially just be a demonstration of lightsaber combat and Jedi arts, or should I only propose it when I have a considerable amount of character statements and feats to form a skill scale?
Because I can release the CRT for the first one almost immediately after I apply the Canon and Legends separation. The second one will take a long time.
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I'd propose that you let skill feats get gathered, THEN make a skill blog for Canon and a skill blog for legends. I mean look at Darth Marr's profile, it has perfect skillwank.
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I don't do Legends stuff, just canon.
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Make sure to rate Rey properly! Rate her above Luke!
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what?
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It is a joke as people don’t take it well regarding Rey’s role and also thinks she is kinda a Mary Sue from what I heard from other ppl.
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The thing about handling Disney is that you have to handle post-Endor Disney too!
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I mean, there are some things to say bad about her, but like...
At least they didn't make her the strongest thing in the universe.
But... Battlefront 2 is cool.
I recently finished the campaign and it's actually pretty good.
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I heard both bad and good reviews on the Sequel series especially the final film for that matter.
More negativity on that especially with ppl not taking kindly of “Somehow Palpatine has returned”
Granted, they kinda tried to resolve that issue with other novels and some other things that should already been explained in the said film in question (TROS).
What a mess regardless
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I liked episodes 7 and 8 when they came out.
They weren't perfect and had their problems, but I think they were interesting enough and had cool concepts.
I think if episode 9 had been good, the quality of the previous episodes would have been acceptable.
Just like the prequel trilogy.
They weren't perfect and had their problems, but I think they were interesting enough and had cool concepts.
I think if episode 9 had been good, the quality of the previous episodes would have been acceptable.
Just like the prequel trilogy.
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