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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

My exams are coming up and I have some work to do.

I don't know if I should try another big Star Wars CRT or leave it for later.

I wanted to do the cosmology one, but I need more scans about realspace and hyperspace (especially 3-D size, if anyone has scans, send them to me in DM)

I also wanted to separate the Legends canon, I saw that some time ago someone started to make the Legends back page but never finished it.

But the one above, besides being a lot of work, because it involves changing a lot of profiles (although it would just be copying the Legends information and putting it on another created page), I don't even know what to do about the weapons and technologies.

Most of them don't have a taber or " | " division of canon and Legends like the Lightsaber page. Bruh.
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Besides, after the exams and assignments I'm going to travel, so unless I can finish the cosmology blog really quickly, the current CRT I'm going to apply will probably be the last one for a while.

It was fun messing around with Star Wars.
Precog+heat hax+TK+Force stasis gg
Instinctive reaction + precognition + telepathy + force sense (galactic/interdimensional) + heat hax + force stasis = gg
 
I was wanting to redo Maul vs Guts, but I don't know if I should just ask for the match to be remade or if I should do a rematch. Because to me it looks like a stomp.

What do you think?
 
Getting back into Star Wars after some years and the current canon profiles have been 8-A for a while

I've seen people talk about how crazy powerful some of the strongest characters are even in this continuity. Was all that just powerscaling brainrot? Or does it not reflect here because of how VSBW Star Wars is severely outdated and in need of elaboration?
 
Getting back into Star Wars after some years and the current canon profiles have been 8-A for a while

I've seen people talk about how crazy powerful some of the strongest characters are even in this continuity. Was all that just powerscaling brainrot? Or does it not reflect here because of how VSBW Star Wars is severely outdated and in need of elaboration?
Probably a mix of both. Characters like Sidious should be significantly above Vader who he is currently scaled to 8-A off of.

However there tends to be a lot of overblown feats that get tossed around to highball characters as well. Common one these days is Vader tanking a flash from a big Kyber crystal that some people like to try to use to get him scaling to the Death Star, despite the fact we have no idea how much power was put into that flash (even a regular imperial technician standing nearby wasn’t disintegrated), especially since it didn’t have all the machinery of the Death Star.

The really outdated profiles are the Legends ones, where pretty much everyone is scaled to debunked feats.
 
I was wanting to redo Maul vs Guts, but I don't know if I should just ask for the match to be remade or if I should do a rematch. Because to me it looks like a stomp.

What do you think?
Sure why not


Getting back into Star Wars after some years and the current canon profiles have been 8-A for a while

I've seen people talk about how crazy powerful some of the strongest characters are even in this continuity. Was all that just powerscaling brainrot? Or does it not reflect here because of how VSBW Star Wars is severely outdated and in need of elaboration?
I saw folks who genuinely believe Dsiney Vader scales to the Death Star via the A New Hope statement or scans of him described as the Empire's strongest weapon. Or Kylo scaling to Starkiller base because of a similar statement.

It's brainrot. But I do think Canon Force Users are a lot stronger than 8-A, the high republic has that one meteor feat that I've seen get to 6-A or even 5-C. Vader has tons of feats from the comics that could get him higher as well.
 
I saw folks who genuinely believe Dsiney Vader scales to the Death Star via the A New Hope statement or scans of him described as the Empire's strongest weapon. Or Kylo scaling to Starkiller base because of a similar statement.

It's brainrot. But I do think Canon Force Users are a lot stronger than 8-A, the high republic has that one meteor feat that I've seen get to 6-A or even 5-C. Vader has tons of feats from the comics that could get him higher as well.
That's about what I expected for canon Star Wars
 
Getting back into Star Wars after some years and the current canon profiles have been 8-A for a while

I've seen people talk about how crazy powerful some of the strongest characters are even in this continuity. Was all that just powerscaling brainrot? Or does it not reflect here because of how VSBW Star Wars is severely outdated and in need of elaboration?
There are more achievements, for example the above Low 7-C and Class T. The problem is a calculation member seeing the calculation, without that it is impossible to move forward with it.
 
Almost complete canon cosmology blog, basically missing two references, which I still need to find.

I know we have things like the planet of the midichlorians, Dathomir and Mortis. But two of them are planets and I didn't find anything about the size of Mortis.

I wanted to pick the most important ones for this.
 
Almost complete canon cosmology blog, basically missing two references, which I still need to find.

I know we have things like the planet of the midichlorians, Dathomir and Mortis. But two of them are planets and I didn't find anything about the size of Mortis.

I wanted to pick the most important ones for this.
If anyone can find the source of these two images, I would be grateful. They are the only ones missing.

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JfLCE0b.jpeg
 

Low 7c

Still hasnt been reviewed unfortunately
This has been accepted, Low 7-C Vader. The blog that @Dragonite007 made has not yet been accepted, but now that the main calculation is correct, there is a chance that his calculation will be as well.

I'll warn you now that I can't apply this kind of thing, I don't understand the scale chain (whether it's the Force or not) and I don't even know if this applies to physics or not, or if the lightsaber is adapted to this or not, etc.

I'll leave this to those who understand more.

Almost complete canon cosmology blog, basically missing two references, which I still need to find.

I know we have things like the planet of the midichlorians, Dathomir and Mortis. But two of them are planets and I didn't find anything about the size of Mortis.

I wanted to pick the most important ones for this.
If anyone can find the source of these two images, I would be grateful. They are the only ones missing.

tlq3UEs.png
JfLCE0b.jpeg
I found the references and finished the sandbox.
 
I migth need to re read the comic because I dont think they specified the exact time it takes place (it doesnt help its an anthology series, so determining if it scales to ESB Vader or Rebels Vader is difficult)
 
The new canon cosmology update implies an increase in the range of Force Sense given that Ahsoka and Maul could sense Anakin's fall in real space from Hyperspace
 
The new canon cosmology update implies an increase in the range of Force Sense given that Ahsoka and Maul could sense Anakin's fall in real space from Hyperspace
It's still interdimensional, right?

Although there's the thing about hyperspace being endless and being a plane that no one can interact with.
 
It's still interdimensional, right?

Although there's the thing about hyperspace being infinite and being a plane that no one can interact with.
It's a separate bubble of space-time that qualifies for being a Low 2-C structure, so it would be like sensing something from a separate universe
 
It's a separate bubble of space-time that qualifies for being a Low 2-C structure, so it would be like sensing something from a separate universe
But that's exactly what interdimensional is.
Interdimensional: Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe, into external pocket realities or parts of other universes, but that can't travel a universal distance, can't affect multiple of these other realities at the same time, and can't reach into other multiverses or higher constructs.
The next level down to multiversal would be if Force Sense could sense all of realspace and hyperspace at the same time.
 
Are there many weapons/vehicles/buildings that have legend information? Like in profiles where we have " | " separating the information?

Like the lightsaber.
 
Are there many weapons/vehicles/buildings that have legend information? Like in profiles where we have " | " separating the information?

Like the lightsaber.
Yeah there are a bunch of Legends sourcebooks that give out detailed information for various vehicles and weapons.

The Essential Guide to Warfare, The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology, The Complete Vehicle Cross-Sections and Blueprints, etc.
 
Yeah there are a bunch of Legends sourcebooks that give out detailed information for various vehicles and weapons.

The Essential Guide to Warfare, The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology, The Complete Vehicle Cross-Sections and Blueprints, etc.
I meant profiles, sorry I didn't specify.

Are there many profiles with this information in the way I exemplified?
 
I meant profiles, sorry I didn't specify.

Are there many profiles with this information in the way I exemplified?
There should be, but currently not from the looks of it:

Seems like a mess of an amalgamation of sources with occasional specification in the notes to distinguish keys facts from the different continuities.
 
There should be, but currently not from the looks of it:

Seems like a mess of an amalgamation of sources with occasional specification in the notes to distinguish keys facts from the different continuities.
I want to nuke Legends because it's so disorganized and outdated, but you'd all hate me.
 
I want to nuke Legends because it's so disorganized and outdated, but you'd all hate me.
I’d honestly support that. As they are, they are all completely worthless.

Would prefer just rebuilding them from the ground up rather than making a million crts.
 
I want to nuke Legends because it's so disorganized and outdated, but you'd all hate me.
If Disney didn’t do the whole canon split, we will been able to do the EU stuff, but since it is practically thrown out the window, the best we getting is nuking the Legend profiles, saved the profiles in archived form, and then update it from there.

Also this Legend only profile kinda deserves a revamp as well.

 
Not to mention Legends has too many materials to count since there are even non canon stuff IIRC even during the EU Era and all.
 
If Disney didn’t do the whole canon split, we will been able to do the EU stuff, but since it is practically thrown out the window, the best we getting is nuking the Legend profiles, saved the profiles in archived form, and then update it from there.

Also this Legend only profile kinda deserves a revamp as well.

That profile is far far better than most, and even it is almost entirely worthless.

None of the abilities have justifications, the AP/SS/Durability values are all exaggerated by a factor of several trillion, the speed rating distinguishes a relativistic reaction for combat speed separate from its FTL calc arbitrarily, and its second of two keys is completely non-canonical which the profile itself admits. And of course half of its calcs are offsite.
 
I’d honestly support that. As they are, they are all completely worthless.

Would prefer just rebuilding them from the ground up rather than making a million crts.
If Disney didn’t do the whole canon split, we will been able to do the EU stuff, but since it is practically thrown out the window, the best we getting is nuking the Legend profiles, saved the profiles in archived form, and then update it from there.
Even so, even though it is very disorganized and some things are very outdated.

There is still a lot of content to store in the sandbox, etc.

The calculations, profile information, tier 1 cosmological information, etc.

I don't think the other supporters and staff would support this.

Especially if they realize that the entire canon is being updated by basically one user. They would probably say that it would be possible to update Legends without having to be remade from scratch because there are many more supporters available.

Not to mention Legends has too many materials to count since there are even non canon stuff IIRC even during the EU Era and all.
I think you can use a counterargument about the supporters thing, that even if there are more supporters, there are decades of content.

But I think that's for you Legends supporters to decide whether to do it or not. I'm not going to get involved in that.
 
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