MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

[Suigetsuhyugs]

So has anyone seen Iron Heart? And if yes, does HE appear as rumored?

So far he didn't actually appear "in flesh" but he might have made the villain get some allucinations, he was probably the one who granted the main villain a magical cape too.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So far he didn't actually appear "in flesh" but he might have made the villain get some allucinations, he was probably the one who granted the main villain a magical cape too.

Mmh okay, thx

How many episode are available rn?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Mmh okay, thx

How many episode are available rn?

3 now other 3 day 1 next month

 

[darkphantom9805]

New F4 trailer

 

[darkphantom9805]

I still can’t tell if Galactus is a nexus being so only 1 exist or if every universe has a Galactus

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I still can’t tell if Galactus is a nexus being so only 1 exist or if every universe has a Galactus

We might have to wait until the next Avengers to see that honestly. don't think they will talk about Variants in the F4 movie itself (though they might mention it)

 

[darkphantom9805]

Why don’t vision scale to 5c like the other high tiers he no sells valks sword that cut hela and Okoye vibranium spear both amped by the spell of vishanti

Vision is so powerful the Russo brothers flat out stated they plot nerfed him in infinity war just because he could end the entire film in 1 page

"I would say we have a difficultly with characters that are too powerful, because if they can solve the problem on page one, where are you going? So we have a tendency, all of us, to look for ways to cripple characters either physically or psychologically. And in this case, Vision gets skewered by a very powerful weapon, and is damaged for the rest of the movie. Systems are failing."

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Agreed with this (though this will likely need a CRT)

 

[darkphantom9805]

(MCU) Vision upgrade

I think vision should be upgraded currently his tier is 6B despite he on screen no sells strikes from a 5C weapon valks sword and even okoye vibranium spear which is also another 5C weapon and these weapons were amped by the spell of vishanti which as seen with supreme strange amps their weapons...

vsbattles.com

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Ironheart series seems off to a good start so far. Nothing too impressive in terms of feats just yet.

The Ironheart armors in this series haven't really done notable yet to scale them above like, 9-B. Presumably they should be superior to the Ironheart Mk 1, but they should be significantly below the Mk 2, as it's a major plot point that Riri is working with limited resources, and doesn't have anything on the level of Wakandan technology to use anymore. Ironheart armors are also explicitly stated in the show to not use arc reactor technology, having to use solar and wind energy for power.

The Hood has used a couple neat abilities, though at this point the extent of his power is rather vague.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

The Ironheart series seems off to a good start so far. Nothing too impressive in terms of feats just yet.

The Ironheart armors in this series haven't really done notable yet to scale them above like, 9-B. Presumably they should be superior to the Ironheart Mk 1, but they should be significantly below the Mk 2, as it's a major plot point that Riri is working with limited resources, and doesn't have anything on the level of Wakandan technology to use anymore. Ironheart armors are also explicitly stated in the show to not use arc reactor technology, having to use solar and wind energy for power.

The Hood has used a couple neat abilities, though at this point the extent of his power is rather vague.

Spoiler

N.A.T.A.L.I.E probably needs further explanation, since I'm doubting she's just a regular A.I given the supernatural theme of the show. But, if she is, Zeke states that her very creation (Riri using her own brain waves) would have melted Riri's brain. Not sure what type of feat that is exactly

 

[Isaacbobanka]

I was reading different guidebooks and stumbled oppon that in Thor guidebook it was said that the nine realms is its own "cosmology" and that Asgard is an eternals void of space and some other interesting thing. Would this upgrade Asgard and define it as a seperete universe?

 

[darkphantom9805]

We has this conversation not long ago the nine realms are all their own universes separated by space time

 

[Isaacbobanka]

We has this conversation not long along the nine realms are all their own universes separated by space time

Was this accepted and does it affect any character scaling?

 

[LMalone22]

official really used the word cosmology?

 

[Isaacbobanka]

official really used the word cosmology?

Seems like it "One of the Nine realms of their cosmology" i think the guidebook explaines that the Nine realms are a collective set of different universes as other sources hints and futher describes Asgard realms as a eternal or infinite in this case size realm as they also use the wording "Eternal space of void"

 

[LMalone22]

I mean it looks like a fake official i can't remember official used that word (cosmology) before

 

[Phoenks]

Cosmology is an actual word guys. It's not that big of a deal.

 

[Reyne]

Cosmology is an actual word guys. It's not that big of a deal.

Powerscalers when words exist:

 

[Naeem0304]

I mean it looks like a fake official i can't remember official used that word (cosmology) before

The word has literally existed since the late 1600s, lol.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Spidey vs hulk going to be crazy on film

 

[Naeem0304]

Imma post a Quantum Realm CRT in a bit; I'm surprised it's not a part of the cosmology page.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Captain America: The First Avenger: March 1942-November 1943
Captain Marvel: June 1995
Iron Man: May 2008
Incredible Hulk: Mid May 2010
Iron Man 2: Late May 2010
Thor: Late May to Early June 2010
The Avengers: May 2012
Thor: The Dark Wold: November 2013
Iron Man 3: December 2013
Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Early March 2014
Guardians of the Galaxy: August 2014
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: October 2014
Daredevil Season 1: Early January - Early February 2015
Jessica Jones Season 1: Early March - Early April 2015
Avengers: Age of Ultron: May 2015
Ant-Man: August 2015
Daredevil Season 2: Late October - Late November 2025
Luke Cage Season 1: Mid November - Early December 2025
Iron Fist Season 1: Early February - Early March 2016
The Defenders: May 2016
Captain America: Civil War: Mid June 2016
Black Widow: Late June 2016
Black Panther: Late June-Early July 2016
Spider-Man: Homecoming: September 2016
Doctor Strange: Early February 2016 - Mid January 2017
Jessica Jones Season 2: April - Early June 2017
Luke Cage Season 2: August - September 2017
Iron Fist Season 2: Early October - Late October 2017
Daredevil Season 3: Late October 2017 - Early November 2017
Jessica Jones Season 3: November 2017
Thor: Ragnarok: November 2017
Punisher Season 1: Early November - Late December 2017
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Early May 2018
Punisher Season 2: Late April - Mid May 2018
Avenger: Infinity War: Late May 2018
Avengers: Endgame: Early June 2018 - Mid October 2023
WandaVision: Early November 2023
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: Late February - Early April 2024
Falcon and the Winter Soldier: Early April - Early July 2024
Spider-Man: Far from Home: Early June - Early July 2024
Eternals: October 2024
Spider-Man: No Way Home: Mid July - Mid November 2024
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: Late November 2024
Hawkeye: Mid - Late December 2024
Moon Knight: Mid April to Early May 2025
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: Early - Mid May 2025 (T'Challa passed away early May 2024)
Echo: Mid May 2025
She-Hulk: Early October 2024 - Early September 2025
Ms. Marvel: Mid September - To Early October 2025
Ironheart: Early October 2025
Thor: Love and Thunder: Mid October 2025
Werewolf by Night: Late October 2025
Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special: Late December 2025
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: Late July 2026
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3.: Early September 2026
Secret Invasion: Early November 2026
The Marvel: Mid November 2026
Agatha All Along: Mid November 2026
Daredevil: Born Again Season 1: Late October 2025 - Early April 2027
Captain America: A Brave New World: Mid April 2027
Thunderbolts*: November 2027
Avengers: Doomsday: January 2029

Fox Timeline:
Deadpool and Wolverine: Late October 2024
Logan: September 2029

Loki Season 1 and 2: Out of timeline

 

[Lacku]

Just realised shouldn't Wanda have fourth wall awareness on her page? She pretty blatantly looks at the camera in MoM.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Just realised shouldn't Wanda have fourth wall awareness on her page? She pretty blatantly looks at the camera in MoM.

That's through magic where she sees herself as the showrunner within the hex

 

[Lacku]

That's through magic where she sees herself as the showrunner within the hex

I’m not talking about WandaVision. The fourth wall break in MoM is extremely blatant and even featured in an official compilation by Marvel.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

I’m not talking about WandaVision. The fourth wall break in MoM is extremely blatant and even featured in an official compilation by Marvel.

I don't really think that counts

 

[darkphantom9805]

Why can’t Stormbreaker scale to the infinity gauntlet when it’s stated eitri can make comparable weapons to the infinity gauntlet and thanos himself took down the forge just to prevent eitri from making anything that could rival his gauntlet even states in order to protect that power meaning Thanos feared he could make something that could take it away hence the axe that neg diffed his gauntlet

 

[Lacku]

I don't really think that counts

Why not? She literally looks at the viewer. Even DBZ characters get Limited Fourth Wall Awareness for doing the same thing.

 

[Emerald]

The fact that Marvel's main youtube channel posted this vid with the title "4TH WALL BREAKS" and this isnt considered 4 wall awareness is funny

 

[Excellence616]

Spidey vs hulk going to be crazy on film

Looking at that, it will be Savage Hulk.

MCU will need to explain how he reverted back to Savage Hulk and MCU can use that opportunity to adapt the part where Hulk remembered Peter secret identity

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Looking at that, it will be Savage Hulk.

MCU will need to explain how he reverted back to Savage Hulk and MCU can use that opportunity to adapt the part where Hulk remembered Peter secret identity

Bruce has Dissociative Identity Disorder, something caused his to dissociate and cause his Child Hulk alter to come out. Wonder if that'll open the door for Joe Fixit or Devil Hulk (Bro needs that father figure in his life)

 

[Excellence616]

Bruce has Dissociative Identity Disorder, something caused his to dissociate and cause his Child Hulk alter to come out. Wonder if that'll open the door for Joe Fixit or Devil Hulk (Bro needs that father figure in his life)

Fr.
iirc, they planned on introducing Grey Hulk in Age of Ultron

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Looking at that, it will be Savage Hulk.

MCU will need to explain how he reverted back to Savage Hulk and MCU can use that opportunity to adapt the part where Hulk remembered Peter secret identity

If it's meant to tie into Secret Wars, then hopefully they don't try to pull a "it's just a Variant" on us...

 

[darkphantom9805]

Looking at that, it will be Savage Hulk.

MCU will need to explain how he reverted back to Savage Hulk and MCU can use that opportunity to adapt the part where Hulk remembered Peter secret identity

From rumors Mr negative will be apart of the film which would be a good way for him to go back into savage right before doomsday

 

[Phoenks]

Who would y'all say is the most intelligent MCU character so far? Obviously not including people who are omniscient like the Watcher and whatnot lol.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Who would y'all say is the most intelligent MCU character so far? Obviously not including people who are omniscient like the Watcher and whatnot lol.

Kang ?

 

[Reyne]

Who would y'all say is the most intelligent MCU character so far? Obviously not including people who are omniscient like the Watcher and whatnot lol.

Tony developed the time traveling anchor device. For a guy who had a night to study pym tech, he did well. He and Hank are probably the smartest so far, with people like Shiri and Riri having work to learn from. Hank is probably a smidge better at what he did.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Tony developed the time traveling anchor device. For a guy who had a night to study pym tech, he did well. He and Hank are probably the smartest so far, with people like Shiri and Riri having work to learn from. Hank is probably a smidge better at what he did.

Kang lol Fitz from AoS and the Samuel Sternsfrom BNW is also a good contender better then those people

 

[Naeem0304]

He Who Remains/Kang would have the highest IQ in the MCU. Running off what Loki's page says:

Supergenius (Learned everything that Ouroboros did over the course of centuries in order to help create the Throughput Multiplier that will increase the Temporal Loom's capacity)

Through HWR creating the Temporal Loom, which can destroy and warp a sixth-dimensional construct (per VSBW; the Loom itself turns raw time into a physical timeline), he'd easily get Supergenius tier. Heck, controlling the Sacred Timeline like a script could even grant him a conditional nigh-omniscience rating tbh (I'm still working on his profile; it'll be done by either tomorrow or Tuesday.)