[Murder Drones] Yet another flimsy CRT

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I already got the NULL calculation accepted, which got to 5-A, yet I have some things I want to add

For one, Cyn was able to tank one of the NULLS, meaning it should scale to physicals, though it was a smaller one, so we might have to calculate the size of that one as well
Another thing is that I feel it should be "5-A, eventually High 4-C", as the NULLS don't immediately spawn that big

But the verse still gets to 5-A physically for these 2 other reasons.
For one, the 5-B+ calc is a little less than 0.3 Yottatons below 5-A, and since Disassembly Drones can one-shot Workers, they should scale above baseline 5-A
The other reason is, well, remember this calc? Remember how it got debunked? Well, Nori and Yeva were standing right next to the explosion, which hit them at point blank radius, so the verse should still scale to 5-A

 

[AlloyAmi]

regarding black hole stuff i brought it up to be discussed on the other thread so ill just talk about some of the other points

Cyn wasn't shown tanking it, they just stopped it with what is very likely to be telekinesis as we see solver users use a lot and this is also clear by how the null is still in its null state and didnt explode. cyns durability is shown to not be great and involves a lot of regen and body control so i doubt shes taking a point blank null that would outright ignore durability too.

disagree with them tanking anything at "point blank" or really anything at all, especially considering the very building they were in wasnt destroyed at all as the characters revisit it in episode 7. they were just engulfed by visual light.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

The other reason is, well, remember this calc? Remember how it got debunked? Well, Nori and Yeva were standing right next to the explosion, which hit them at point blank radius, so the verse should still scale to 5-A

Wasn’t this discussed in another thread already?

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

regarding black hole stuff i brought it up to be discussed on the other thread so ill just talk about some of the other points

Cyn wasn't shown tanking it, they just stopped it with what is very likely to be telekinesis as we see solver users use a lot and this is also clear by how the null is still in its null state and didnt explode. cyns durability is shown to not be great and involves a lot of regen and body control so i doubt shes taking a point blank null that would outright ignore durability too.

disagree with them tanking anything at "point blank" or really anything at all, especially considering the very building they were in wasnt destroyed at all as the characters revisit it in episode 7. they were just engulfed by visual light.

she also crushed it

 

[AlloyAmi]

she also crushed it

i feel like thats more power null/negating it as it didnt explode and just shattered

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

i feel like thats more power null/negating it as it didnt explode and just shattered

it shattering is proof she scales to it lmao

 

[Camerontaylor07]

also a glyph is shown when the solver is used and a null flahsed red when it is diabeld by the solver non of those things happend

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

also a glyph is shown when the solver is used and a null flahsed red when it is diabeld by the solver non of those things happend

Either way, the verse should still be 5-A due to one-shotting Murder Drones

And I'd say the abilities should be 5-A, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with Absolute Solver

Cyn: 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver
Uzi: 5-B physically, higher with her railgun, 5-A, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver

 

[AlloyAmi]

it shattering is proof she scales to it lmao

not really, just nullified it before it can activate, the nulls are very clearly above that they can standardly do physically

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

not really, just nullified it before it can activate, the nulls are very clearly above that they can standardly do physically

even then, it still weighed as much as a normal black hole

 

[AlloyAmi]

even then, it still weighed as much as a normal black hole

null itself isnt treated as a black hole, it can create them as a byproduct of its usage but the null itself isnt treated as one, especially the ones being used in that fight, they are just thrown to cause explosions and cut through space.

 

[FinePoint]

I'm fine with the upscaling from Murder Drones.

The black hole stuff seems iffy here, for the reasons others have already pointed out.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I'm fine with the upscaling from Murder Drones.

The black hole stuff seems iffy here, for the reasons others have already pointed out.

Can we at least change the solver rating to “5-A, eventually High 4-C”

 

[FinePoint]

Can we at least change the solver rating to “5-A, eventually High 4-C”

I'm fine with it.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

Ok so we upgrade the disassembly drones to 5-A (and anyone who scales to them) and we change the solver statistics to “5-A, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver” or for Cyn’s case, “5-A, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A”

 

[FinePoint]

Ok so we upgrade the disassembly drones to 5-A (and anyone who scales to them) and we change the solver statistics to “5-A, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver” or for Cyn’s case, “5-A, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A”

I'm okay with that, but we need another staff vote.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I'm okay with that, but we need another staff vote.

ok, so just to get the upgrades straight so everyone understands

Uzi: "5-B physically, 5-A with her railgun, higher, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"

N, V, J, and the Sentinels all get upgraded to 5-A since they can one-shot worker drones.

and Cyn- idk, should she scale to the DDs

If yes, then Cyn's upgrades would be "5-A physically, High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"
If not, then "5-B physically, 5-A, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"

 

[FinePoint]

ok, so just to get the upgrades straight so everyone understands

Uzi: "5-B physically, 5-A with her railgun, higher, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver | 5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"

N, V, J, and the Sentinels all get upgraded to 5-A since they can one-shot worker drones.

and Cyn- idk, should she scale to the DDs

If yes, then Cyn's upgrades would be "5-A physically, High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"
If not, then "5-B physically, 5-A, eventually High 4-C, up to 3-A with the Absolute Solver"

What does DD stand for here?

 

[AlloyAmi]

What does DD stand for here?

Disassembly Drones, aka N V and J

 

[FinePoint]

Disassembly Drones, aka N V and J

Thank you.

Well, why do you think they should scale?

 

[AlloyAmi]

Thank you.

Well, why do you think they should scale?

OP is suggesting that since they one shot worker drones who can tank (5-B+ calc), they should be upscaled to at least baseline 5-A. i personally have some issue with the calc being used but thats a topic for another time

 

[FinePoint]

OP is suggesting that since they one shot worker drones who can tank (5-B+ calc), they should be upscaled to at least baseline 5-A. i personally have some issue with the calc being used but thats a topic for another time

That's probably fine, but if there's an issue with the calculation itself that should definitely be brought up soon.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

That's probably fine, but if there's an issue with the calculation itself that should definitely be brought up soon.

yeah I actually have an issue with said calc too

So that's why I've recalced it though I'd still need a calc member to approve it

 

[FinePoint]

yeah I actually have an issue with said calc too

So that's why I've recalced it though I'd still need a calc member to approve it

We could probably hold off on this until it gets evaluated then.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

We could probably hold off on this until it gets evaluated then.

if it's accepted, then everyone gets downgraded to Low 5-B

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

Nvm doll is also finna get upgraded since she can one-shot worker drones too
“5-A physically, higher, eventually High 4-C with the Absolute Solver)

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

bump

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

also another CRT got accepted so the verse is now solar system level

So the upgrade would make it "5-A, eventually 4-B"

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

also another CRT got accepted so the verse is now solar system level

So the upgrade would make it "5-A, eventually 4-B"

That is so cool.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

Also as discussed here, the AS part should be "5-A, eventually 4-B," however it should only apply to Post-Ep 8 Uzi and Cyn. BTW, someone should really calc the AP of this NULL. I might do it in the future.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

also bump

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

We could probably hold off on this until it gets evaluated then.

Are you good with adding this to Post-Ep 8 Uzi and Cyn only?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Also as discussed here, the AS part should be "5-A, eventually 4-B," however it should only apply to Post-Ep 8 Uzi and Cyn. BTW, someone should really calc the AP of this NULL. I might do it in the future.

Neato.

 

[FinePoint]

Are you good with adding this to Post-Ep 8 Uzi and Cyn only?

Sure.