Ben 10: Eon & Ultimate Ben Upgrades + a bonus

[Firestorm808]

Sorry for the late response


I wasn’t sure if downscaling would be at most Low 1-C or 2-A so I just suggested the one that made more sense to me, but if 2-A is better I don’t mind that. It gets the point across without a vague “likely much higher” rating.


Eon’s energy attacks and his physical attacks are roughly comparable both in base and at his near peak, which should mean Eon’s absorption is amping both of them equally.


Fair


Hmmm weirdly I’m not seeing “up to” referenced anywhere on that page, but it’s the phrase that’s usually used when there’s a varying rating with a listed high end.

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Partly depends on if there’s enough staff votes. I’m not sure if 2 or 3 are needed in this case (Reiner’s counts, right?), as while it’s a Tier 1 thread it’s mainly just scaling a single character to another so the requirements might be different. Some of the points don’t have two full agreements though, so regardless there’s still some waiting to be done.

1. 2-A should be fine.
2. I lean for physicals scaling linearly as "possibly".

 

[Hellformer]

1. 2-A should be fine.
2. I lean for physicals scaling linearly as "possibly".

Eon said that he would have the strength to replace prime timeline with a new one where he will be the only Ben Tennyson to exist. So his physicals would be either likely or solid.

 

[Firestorm808]

Eon said that he would have the strength to replace prime timeline with a new one where he will be the only Ben Tennyson to exist. So his physicals would be either likely or solid.

"I feed on their power and make them my slaves. When I absorb you, I'll finally have the strength to replace this timeline with a new one-"

Likely is fine.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

 

[Ghengiroo115]

"I feed on their power and make them my slaves. When I absorb you, I'll finally have the strength to replace this timeline with a new one-"

Likely is fine.

Would it be “up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C” since he uppercuts Ultimate Ben or just “likely up to Low 1-C”?

Edit: Should Eon’s Durability also be downgraded to the same level (though I guess technically still an upgrade since he’s only got a possibly rating rn)? Currently he has no justification written, but his near peak is relative to both Ultimate Ben and Eon’s own Striking Strength, so he should have likely Low 1-C Durability too.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Bump.

 

[Firestorm808]

Eon:

4-B Base


AP: 2-A Reality Warping and Likely 2-A Physically via Absorbing Almost All Bens

Durability: Likely 2-A via Absorbing Almost All Bens


AP: Low 1-C Reality Warping and Likely Low 1-C Physically via Absorbing All Bens.

Durability: Likely Low 1-C via Absorbing All Bens

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Eon:

4-B Base


AP: 2-A Reality Warping and Likely 2-A Physically via Absorbing Almost All Bens

Durability: Likely 2-A via Absorbing Almost All Bens


AP: Low 1-C Reality Warping and Likely Low 1-C Physically via Absorbing All Bens.

Durability: Likely Low 1-C via Absorbing All Bens

I don’t think he should have the solid rating only with Reality Warping, as it’s attributed to a strength boost he gets from absorbing the Bens. All of his energy-based abilities should have the solid rating.

I have plans to overhaul his profile later, but for now I think something like this could work:

Attack Potency: 4-B physically, up to Low 1-C with absorption

Striking Strength/Durability: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C with absorption

As for Ultimate Ben:

AP/SS/Dura: 2-A, higher with certain powers

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Minor Bump

 

[Ghengiroo115]

I don’t think he should have the solid rating only with Reality Warping, as it’s attributed to a strength boost he gets from absorbing the Bens. All of his energy-based abilities should have the solid rating.

I have plans to overhaul his profile later, but for now I think something like this could work:



As for Ultimate Ben:

Just remembered I proposed “potentially” Low 1-C for Eon in this thread, so I slightly edited the proposed ratings to match that:

AP: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, potentially Low 1-C with absorption

SS/Dura: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C with absorption

Since Ultimate Ben is scaling to a solid 2-A near-peak Eon, I had to be a bit finicky to fit in the “potentially” aspect. Tbh I’m now of the feeling it’s a bit unnecessary, but meh.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

 

[Firestorm808]

Just remembered I proposed “potentially” Low 1-C for Eon in this thread, so I slightly edited the proposed ratings to match that:



Since Ultimate Ben is scaling to a solid 2-A near-peak Eon, I had to be a bit finicky to fit in the “potentially” aspect. Tbh I’m now of the feeling it’s a bit unnecessary, but meh.

AP: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, potentially Low 1-C with absorption

SS/Dura: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C with absorption

I suppose this is fine.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

AP: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, potentially Low 1-C with absorption

SS/Dura: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C with absorption

I suppose this is fine.

Cool, guess now I wait for another mod to hopefully see this thread. I’m not sure if just you and Reiner are enough since there’s Tier 1 stuff.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

AP: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, potentially Low 1-C with absorption

SS/Dura: 4-B physically, up to 2-A, likely Low 1-C with absorption

I suppose this is fine.

Should be all Ben 10,000 has it, as Paradox say it's parallel historys, it almost happened in Prime Timeline.

Cool, guess now I wait for another mod to hopefully see this thread. I’m not sure if just you and Reiner are enough since there’s Tier 1 stuff.

Will, Tier 1 get accept before, as I ask some staff, they say if Tier 1 Cosmology accept then you need at least 2 staff for upgrade characters.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Bump

Will, Tier 1 get accept before, as I ask some staff, they say if Tier 1 Cosmology accept then you need at least 2 staff for upgrade characters.

I remember hearing something like that before as well, and the thread has also gone on for a few months now with barely any attention. I’ll wait till maybe the end of the week to see if this thread gets any more attention, and if not I’ll make sure if I can just apply it then and there or not.

 

[Firestorm808]

@DarkDragonMedeus Your input is appreciated.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Same thoughts as Firestorm.

 

[Hellformer]

Same thoughts as Firestorm.

@Ghengiroo115

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Coolio, and that’s three. I’m too busy this morning to apply it all (mainly because the pages need to be unlocked and I don’t want to risk not being at home when they are), but I’ll put all the necessary scans into Imgurr or something right now to make things a little easier. Like I said a couple months ago I’d rather apply this myself as I feel bad usually leaving it to someone else, but it’ll have to wait a bit.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Coolio, and that’s three. I’m too busy this morning to apply it all (mainly because the pages need to be unlocked and I don’t want to risk not being at home when they are), but I’ll put all the necessary scans into Imgurr or something right now to make things a little easier. Like I said a couple months ago I’d rather apply this myself as I feel bad usually leaving it to someone else, but it’ll have to wait a bit.

Scratch that, might have to do it tomorrow. Today was a lot busier than I thought, and I’ve only got a couple hours at most before I need to sleep. I can’t risk the pages only being unlocked after I go to bed, so I’ll wait till tomorrow morning (or evening, I have a busy afternoon tomorrow as well lol) to ask. I’ve got all the scans saved so it’ll be easy to apply it once I’ve got the time (again, I’d rather do it myself).