Graham vs Dracula (Maou Gakuin vs Castlevania)

[Thermor]

Speed equalized

Graham:
Dracula:
Incon: @Arkansalter2

 

[Robo432343]

plot hax + 720 layers incap

 

[Thermor]

plot hax + 720 layers incap

How Dracula does it?

 

[Arkansalter2]

How Dracula does it?

He has 720+ layers of all of the powers listed here... mind you this is a physiology btw.

 

[Thermor]

He has 720+ layers of all of the powers listed here... mind you this is a physiology btw.

Most of that is useless because of Graham having infinite layers into NEP. Also you havent answered on how Dracula uses his plot hax.

 

[Thermor]

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 - Ad Infinitum layers. Graham remains as nothingness with a nonexistent "source" after his "normal source" (concept) is destroyed[28], and his true nature is that of a pure "Nothing" beyond reason that takes place after his nothingness has been destroyed[29]. Additionally, not even Venuzdonoa is capable of erasing his true state permanently. Graham's nothingness is continuously being destroyed inside Anos' source, reaching even further states of nothingness in comparison to the last)

 

[Arkansalter2]

• Plot Manipulation and Text Manipulation (Creatures of Chaos can utilize the power of chaos to write cruel endings for their targets into Reality and rewrite the narrative of the worlds they reside in through the chaos in their soul which are one and the same as the real world with the results of those changes<overturning events in the story it's tied to and overflowing into reality.

 

[Thermor]

• Plot Manipulation and Text Manipulation (Creatures of Chaos can utilize the power of chaos to write cruel endings for their targets into Reality and rewrite the narrative of the worlds they reside in through the chaos in their soul which are one and the same as the real world with the results of those changes<overturning events in the story it's tied to and overflowing into reality.

Ok what are Dracula's first moves?

 

[Saucy_Jackistan24]

Graham doesn’t really lack the “narrative” aspect of his existence, so Dracula’s plot hax should still play a part

Moreover, Graham doesn’t start at ad-infinitum NEP 2 layers right off the bat, he starts with his source of nothingness that’s NEP 1

What is Dracula’s first move?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Literally any of his attacks apply said hax. Now what his first move is is beyond me.
I'm going with Inconclusive. This is a who hits who first match.

 

[Thermor]

Literally any of his attacks apply said hax. Now what his first move is is beyond me.
I'm going with Inconclusive. This is a who hits who first match.

Graham still has the NEP advantage btw so Dracula cant percieve/sense him. So Graham has a higher chance of killing him than Dracula does.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

He has 720+ layers of all of the powers listed here... mind you this is a physiology btw.

Under what circumstances should a character be running around with this much layers...

And ofc their one of those verses...where they have paragraphs upon paragraphs of abilities for just physiology...why does this exist bro?

 

[Robo432343]

Grahams physical body can still get incapped so dracula wins
there is no chance graham can win this fight because plot hax will always save drac + resistances

 

[Arkansalter2]

Under what circumstances should a character be running around with this much layers...

And ofc their one of those verses...where they have paragraphs upon paragraphs of abilities for just physiology...why does this exist bro?

Theres FAR bigger profiles out there. Check out Q for example.

 

[Theglassman12]

What's stopping Dracula from existing and having Graham suffer as a result? Being near his magic, which is literally everywhere with his castle is enough for the effects to take place, plus I don't see any layered resistances on Graham's page so he just gets screwed.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Theres FAR bigger profiles out there. Check out Q for example.

We need to do something to stuff like this...

 

[Delusionaltx2]

What's stopping Dracula from existing and having Graham suffer as a result? Being near his magic, which is literally everywhere with his castle is enough for the effects to take place, plus I don't see any layered resistances on Graham's page so he just gets screwed.

From the looks of things...nep2 (Dracula doesn't seem to have anything that interacts with this as crazy as it sounds )

 

[Theglassman12]

The NEP 2 that doesn't cover narrative aspects? Also what exactly is Graham supposed to do to beat Dracula because I've looked through his page, and everything there, Dracula can resist and shrug off.

Moreover, Graham doesn’t start at ad-infinitum NEP 2 layers right off the bat, he starts with his source of nothingness that’s NEP 1

Also if this is legit, then Graham is just screwed, he's susceptible to just any of Dracula's magic that just happens by existing and he can't do anything about it.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

The NEP 2 that doesn't cover narrative aspects? Also what exactly is Graham supposed to do to beat Dracula because I've looked through his page, and everything there, Dracula can resist and shrug off.

Yeah no nvm I forgot about the offensive plot hax

yeah graham is cooked he gets outhaxed by layered CM or chaos from the looks of it.

 

[Theglassman12]

Chaos magic in general can do that yeah, Dracula's magic is just amped to the nth degree. Either way, closing this thread, looks like a massive mismatch.