Fixing the Sailor Moon Page

[Iamunanimousinthat]

The Sailor Moon profiles have been vandalized and a lot of abilities that are not site abilities were added. The pages have become unreadable. We have come together to fix Sailor Moon's profile and hope to fix the other profiles. We have reformatted the site, and changed abilities to match the site abilities and removed abilities that are not site abilities. We have also added scans for the abilities and better explanation. I have also changed the tier to make them more coherent and have updated the reasonings for tiers and abilities. Tiers themselves have not been changed.

The Current Profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sailor_Moon_(Manga)

The Updated Profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Iamunanimousinthat/Fixing_the_Sailor_Moon_Profile#Usagi_Tsukino_▾

Look for staff to accept the clean up so we can add it to the profile.

Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, HenshinIntervention, AsterReal, The_King_of_Prudence
Neutral:
Disagree:

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Obviously I agree with the cleaned up profile
Should be noted that on the current profile, there are a lot of grammatical and lore errors from YEARS ago that haven't been weeded out. Essentially some minor but helpful edits were also made on the revamped profile, so hopefully those can be implemented 100% as well.

 

[AsterReal]

I helped with the profile update, so I agree.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks better to me.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

This should work.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Looks alright.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Thank you to those who comment. Should this thread need three staff votes or two?

 

[StarShooter80]

Thank you to those who comment. Should this thread need three staff votes or two?

I’m pretty sure this can be just two, Sailor Moon isn’t a big verse from my understanding and this is definitely a minor revision (just fixing self-evidential issues and not really changing any statistics outright)

 

[FinePoint]

It looks better, but I would prefer if every ability currently missing a justification text was given one with scans (even if seemingly obvious).

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

It looks better, but I would prefer if every ability currently missing a justification text was given one with scans (even if seemingly obvious).

Thanks for commenting. I will work on adding the scans.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Thanks for commenting. I will work on adding the scans.

If there's any formatting issues I'll handle that

 

[Compsito]

Thanks for commenting. I will work on adding the scans.

Regarding some justifications, I'd like to ask about the high divine regeneration that Sailor Moon has with the Lambda power. I know she regenerated after being erased by the Cauldron, but what level of erasure does the Galactic Cauldron actually have? From what I understand, the Cauldron erased the Star Seeds, which are the very "being" of the Sailors (although I remember Sailor Galaxia saying that the Seeds were fragile—or maybe I'm just imagining that).

In any case, is there any direct statement about the level of erasure caused by the Cauldron? I'm genuinely curious about that

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Regarding some justifications, I'd like to ask about the high divine regeneration that Sailor Moon has with the Lambda power. I know she regenerated after being erased by the Cauldron, but what level of erasure does the Galactic Cauldron actually have? From what I understand, the Cauldron erased the Star Seeds, which are the very "being" of the Sailors (although I remember Sailor Galaxia saying that the Seeds were fragile—or maybe I'm just imagining that).

In any case, is there any direct statement about the level of erasure caused by the Cauldron? I'm genuinely curious about that

The Galaxy Cauldron has High Godly Erasure as it destroys the star seeds which are the fundamental aspect of the verse and it also erases people from history.

 

[AsterReal]

Regarding some justifications, I'd like to ask about the high divine regeneration that Sailor Moon has with the Lambda power. I know she regenerated after being erased by the Cauldron, but what level of erasure does the Galactic Cauldron actually have? From what I understand, the Cauldron erased the Star Seeds, which are the very "being" of the Sailors (although I remember Sailor Galaxia saying that the Seeds were fragile—or maybe I'm just imagining that).

In any case, is there any direct statement about the level of erasure caused by the Cauldron? I'm genuinely curious about that

The erasure power of the Galaxy Cauldron erases you from all of space-time (history). When Mamoru Chiba's Star Seed was destroyed by the Cauldron, it was erased without a trace. This not only erased him from existence, but his daughter Chibiusa was also erased along with him at that very moment (Chibiusa was not affected at all by the fact that Mamoru, her father, was erased in the present). However, she was affected by the destruction of her father's Star Seed.

Furthermore, Star Seeds are accepted as Concepts (Type 1) and Information (Type 2), so the erasure of the Galaxy Cauldron has to erase the concept and information (Star Seed) to make it disappear (not even a Sailor Senshi like Sailor Galaxia can destroy a Sailor Crystal), but the Galaxy Cauldron can.

 

[Compsito]

The Galaxy Cauldron has High Godly Erasure as it destroys the star seeds which are the fundamental aspect of the verse and it also erases people from history.

Thanks

 

[Compsito]

not even a Sailor Senshi like Sailor Galaxia can destroy a Sailor Crystal

Do you know where this was said?

 

[HenshinIntervention]

although I remember Sailor Galaxia saying that the Seeds were fragile—or maybe I'm just imagining that).

This was in reference to Human Star Seeds, and she simply views them as inferior to Sailor Crystals (Sailor Guardian Star Seeds)

 

[AsterReal]

Do you know where this was said?

It is said that Sailor Crystals are indestructible and can survive Galaxia's attacks, even those of Sailor Moon (who is more powerful than her and has been said several times to be the most powerful Sailor Senshi). Sailor Galaxia had to throw all the Sailor Crystals she captured directly into the Galaxy Cauldron in order to erase them. The story doesn't say it directly, but it shows it to you with facts.

 

[MeiouHades]

"Pharaoh 90 easily moved his entire Separate Universe, which is also a separate space-time"

This is my objection. The Tau Star System is never once stated to be a universe. At best, it would be a 4-A/3-C sized dimension, not a Low 2-C one

 

[Compsito]

which is also a separate space-time"

Doesn't the second-to-last scan use the kanji "外宇宙" to refer to the Tau star system, according to the context? The kanji "宇宙" means "universe," and "外宇宙" can be translated as "outer space" or "outer universe." Considering that these are beings from another dimension/space-time, calling it "outer space" in the sense of space beyond Earth doesn't make much sense—"outer universe" would be a more coherent interpretation.

 

[MeiouHades]

Doesn't the second-to-last scan use the kanji "外宇宙" to refer to the Tau star system, according to the context? The kanji "宇宙" means "universe," and "外宇宙" can be translated as "outer space" or "outer universe." Considering that these are beings from another dimension/space-time, calling it "outer space" in the sense of space beyond Earth doesn't make much sense—"outer universe" would be a more coherent interpretation.

It wouldn't be, because there's no meaning to the phrase "outer universe" nor is it ever translated that way as far as I know. It likely just means outer space.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

"Pharaoh 90 easily moved his entire Separate Universe, which is also a separate space-time"

This is my objection. The Tau Star System is never once stated to be a universe. At best, it would be a 4-A/3-C sized dimension, not a Low 2-C one

This is how I know you didn't actually read the scans. (Also should be noted that this was already accepted on previous CRTs)

You're relying on a Nominal Fallacy to downgrade the size of the Tau Star System which I addressed. The Tau Star System is called: Dimension, Space-Time, and Another World multiple times. A Model/Hologram of the Tau Star System is called a "Model Cosmos" in the Manga, hinting that its true size extends to cosmological proportions because a simple model of it is meant to model a Universe.

It wouldn't make sense for it be "Model Outer Space" that's incoherent and doesn't at all fit the context.

 

[Compsito]

It wouldn't be, because there's no meaning to the phrase "outer universe" nor is it ever translated that way as far as I know. It likely just means outer space.

Outer universe means a universe that exists outside of the usual universe, the kanji 外 means "outside" "outside" or "exterior". Calling it "outer space" in the sense of space outside the earth does not make any sense, since these beings come from another space-time, calling it "outer universe" or "outside universe" is more correct since "宇宙" simply means universe.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Outer universe means a universe that exists outside of the usual universe, the kanji 外 means "outside" "outside" or "exterior". Calling it "outer space" in the sense of space outside the earth does not make any sense, since these beings come from another space-time, calling it "outer universe" or "outside universe" is more correct since "宇宙" simply means universe.

I don't think this is in the raws but it frankly doesn't matter. The Tau Star System is even portrayed as a Parallel Universe/Alternate Dimension in the 90s Anime so like, it's not a unique idea at all. People keep clinging onto its name without proving anything.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

"Pharaoh 90 easily moved his entire Separate Universe, which is also a separate space-time"

This is my objection. The Tau Star System is never once stated to be a universe. At best, it would be a 4-A/3-C sized dimension, not a Low 2-C one

Your objection is in the wrong place. Also, you’ve provided zero evidence and are just stating an opinion. Nothing you posted goes against any of the ample information provided in the scan.

 

[MeiouHades]

I'm disengaging from debating this not because any of the "evidence" has convinced me but because it is currently accepted and it would derail the CRT. I'll probably change it in the future, it is fairly iffy and easy to debunk

 

[StarShooter80]

Alr man

 

[AsterReal]

It looks better, but I would prefer if every ability currently missing a justification text was given one with scans (even if seemingly obvious).

Justifications have been added to the abilities that did not have them. Since that seemed to be your only objection, could you tell us if you are completely in favor of the changes?

 

[FinePoint]

Justifications have been added to the abilities that did not have them. Since that seemed to be your only objection, could you tell us if you are completely in favor of the changes?

It looks great, thank you.

Yes, I'm fine with it now.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Thank you! I will apply changes when I get the time later today!

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

The changes have been applied! This can be closed. I will also be asking mods to lock the page.