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Seems the values for Goku and Vegeta are for their charged attacks, with their physicals being 4 times lower.
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Goku and Vegeta fight a giant monkey and lizard (Dragon Ball vs. MonsterVerse)
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Arkansalter2
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- Energy & Radiation Absorption (Godzilla's natural source of sustenance is radiation.He feeds on energy by absorbing it through his body or siphoning it through his mouth
What you're basically saying is that Ki is just energy with a bunch of fancy words to make it sound good. Like I said, energy with a bunch of words to make it sound good. I get that its born from their soul but does it affect other's soul? No. I get that it's spiritual but does that change anything? No. Does it affect the opponent's spirit? No.
Literally what I've been saying for the past few times. Wanked Energy Projection/Manipulation.
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Oh yeah. Someone has to fix that on their profiles.
So with that:
Super Saiyan gap: 22.79x
Super Saiyan 2 gap: 11.39x
Super Saiyan 3 Goku (and if Vegeta somehow becomes Super Saiyan 2) gap: 2.8x
It's a stomp, but their charged attacks even out the gap, and considering they used charged ki attacks often like Goku's kamehameha... idk.
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Radiation is a form of energy, that's why Godzilla has that energy part. He can't absorb just any random energy attack or source, it has to be radiation.
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Do you think the match is still possible with this gap, since the values I used on the profiles are from the charged attacks?
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That blog is outdated
Bossbrosish
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oh ok ok
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Checked further, seems I am mistaken on that. It's weird, because we implemented the varies rating for the charged attacks precisely because they can go from doing comparable damage to bridging gaps (like SsjBlue Goku completely piercing through Fused Zamasu's body, when SsjBlue Goku was Black Goku level before using his 100% power with Blue)
Without the charged attacks, then I don't believe they can beat Godzilla before succumbing to the heat + atomic breath. So yeah, changing my vote to Goji and Kong.
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I will vote Godzilla and Kong
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Goku and Vegeta fra.
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Charged attacks can get strong enough to anihilate beings far stronger than the users, and that's just the Kamehameha, Vegeta has the Big Bang Attack and Final Flash which are far above his version of the kamehameha(Galick Gun)
Can Goji absorb that much energy? If Goku is in ssj3 i think not? Dunno much about Monsterverve tbf
Can Goji absorb that much energy? If Goku is in ssj3 i think not? Dunno much about Monsterverve tbf
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Goji only absorbs radiation, ain't absorbing ki.
But the problem is, according to the current AP blog, charged attacks would only put Goku and Vegeta at x1.38 higher than Goji in the first place.
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My reasons are bust based on the current AP blog.
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Oh right lol.
I retract my vote then.
I retract my vote then.
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If Godzilla gets pissed off when being blasted from all around, what prevents him from supercharging and getting a 10x boost to power output and durability like he did after getting mildly annoyed when Shimo threw him? He doesn't take long after the first usage as shown when he blasted Shimo's storm away.
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Goku fra (vegeta is an underling so who car-
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There aren't reasons for Goku winning anymore.
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His durability doesn't scale to that, his profile says as much.
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As garbage as the profiles are, this is still stupid by default.
He stored energy to supercharge with in his body, using it did him no harm and the profile uses a quote of him controlling the energy they thought would blow him up.
Burning Godzilla's increased durability was also mentioned earlier in the discussion and the wiki lists Evolved as comparable or superior (wrong but we'll roll with it).
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If you disagree with it then make a CRT to change, otherwise we stick with what the profiles say.
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bump
TyranoDoom30
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With Ki being accepted as = soul and therefore Ki attacks = soul damage, does it change anything regarding this thread?
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From what I heard, the soul hax in particular basically means "Oh their ki comes from their soul and bla bla bla..."
Just making it sound a little bit fancier. It doesn't damage the soul of opponents however.
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DAMMIT.
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