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PART 1 - INTRODUCTION
Hi, I made this page, which I will call "The Force (Star Wars - Canon)"
As everyone knows, SW profiles have some problems.
Lack of justifications for the P&A, powers listed incorrectly, justifications from Legends used in canon and, most problematic, some profiles like Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi have the Canon and Legends P&A completely mixed up, making it difficult to know which powers are canon and which are not.
The page I made is not perfect and does not list all the existing force abilities or all the sentients (I had planned to put a tab for the Witches of Dathomir but I removed it because I didn't know much about them), but I think this will solve most of the problems.
No, this will not be added to their legends or tab pages, as it uses a lot of stuff outside of it.
NOTE: Since SW crts seem to take a long time, I would like to just go ahead and accept, change or reject the proposals for this crt. If you remember more force powers to add, etc., I ask that you leave that for a future crt when the page exists and is already working.
PART 2 - WHAT WILL THE APPLICATION BE LIKE?
Well, this is how it will be added to profiles in general:
Force Sensitive (Jedi), Force Sensitive (Inquisitors) and Force Sensitive (Sith)
But you must have the questions below, and I will answer them.
IMPORTANT NOTE:
This review will also be a kind of "general cleaning".
There are many characters whose P&A is empty of justifications or who use legends justifications for something in canon. I'll use Anakin Skywalker's profile.
He has the following in his canon tab:
And Psychometry, the only way he can have this is with Force Echo, but this Force Power is something that people are born with and not a learned skill. Since this indexed power has no justification and is not even mentioned in his notable skills, this will be removed.
Other examples are Luke and Kylo Ren.
Luke has telepathy for the wrong reasons. As explained on the Star Wars website, it wasn't Luke who spoke to Leia telepathically, but rather that Leia, using her Force sense, was able to feel Luke calling her.
And Kylo Ren's Clairvoyance justification is wrong, since he used a mind probe that extracts information about people/places from their memories. The clairvoyance page says that it has to be through extrasensory perception, which is not what Kylo does (although he won't lose his clairvoyance with the CRT).
I'll also try to somehow keep the personal deeds of the characters' P&A justifications correct. Since it's good for indexing.
Obviously, it's quite laborious and complicated. I hope that supporters follow the application of the CRT, ask me questions or point out errors. And if I make a mistake it wasn't out of malice, whenever I have doubts I will ask the supporters in the general discussion of the verse.
PART 3 - BUT WHAT ABOUT LEGENDS?
As I said before, this will not be added to their pages or tabs because they use a lot of canon material.
After this crt is accepted (I hope), I will take a profile that mixes Legends and Canon in a P&A and do the tab separation like this in Anakin Skywalker's profile. So that I end up leaving nothing from Legends out, I will transport all this old P&A to Legends, leaving only the strength page in the canon tab (I will also leave in this tab powers that are obviously from canon)
Votes:
Agree: (3) @Theglassman12 (Agrees with the Nature of the Force having energy manipulation and agree with the force powers and etc), @DarkDragonMedeus (Agree with everything), @LephyrTheRevanchist (Agree with everything). @FinePoint (Agree with everything)
Neutral: (1) @Theglassman12 (Neutral to Force Nature powers and abilities, exception of energy manipulation)
Disagree:
Hi, I made this page, which I will call "The Force (Star Wars - Canon)"
As everyone knows, SW profiles have some problems.
Lack of justifications for the P&A, powers listed incorrectly, justifications from Legends used in canon and, most problematic, some profiles like Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi have the Canon and Legends P&A completely mixed up, making it difficult to know which powers are canon and which are not.
The page I made is not perfect and does not list all the existing force abilities or all the sentients (I had planned to put a tab for the Witches of Dathomir but I removed it because I didn't know much about them), but I think this will solve most of the problems.
No, this will not be added to their legends or tab pages, as it uses a lot of stuff outside of it.
NOTE: Since SW crts seem to take a long time, I would like to just go ahead and accept, change or reject the proposals for this crt. If you remember more force powers to add, etc., I ask that you leave that for a future crt when the page exists and is already working.
PART 2 - WHAT WILL THE APPLICATION BE LIKE?
Well, this is how it will be added to profiles in general:
Force Sensitive (Jedi), Force Sensitive (Inquisitors) and Force Sensitive (Sith)
But you must have the questions below, and I will answer them.
Q: How would it be indexed for Jedis who use the dark side without being inquisitors or sith?
A:
This will not be necessary. Any sensitive can fall to the dark side, whether he does or not depends on the character. This is only relevant for VSThread purposes. But in this case, if someone wants to argue that a character can use basic powers when accessing the dark side, he would have to demonstrate that it is in the character's nature/personality to do something like that.
Q: What about characters who don't have a tabber for them? Like the untrained sensitives, the Witches of Dathomir, and Kylon Rey?
A:
Sensitives who are not at Jedi level, such as the Witches of Dathormir, will not have their profiles changed for now. As I said, the page is not perfect in scope, so I plan (or someone else) to fix this problem later.
As for Kylo Ren, for example, I plan to put the classification "Sith" with a note in the profile explaining that he is not officially a Sith, and therefore he should not be able to use Force Lightning. I will explain in the note that it is only for classification purposes.
Q: How will it be indexed for characters with non-"standard" force powers, like Rey's Force Healing and Cal Kestis' Force Echo? Or force powers that x character can use despite not being in his category, like for example, Rey being a Jedi but being able to use force lighting.
A:
They will be listed like this, I will use Luke, Rey and Cal as examples.
Luke:
Cal:
A:
This will not be necessary. Any sensitive can fall to the dark side, whether he does or not depends on the character. This is only relevant for VSThread purposes. But in this case, if someone wants to argue that a character can use basic powers when accessing the dark side, he would have to demonstrate that it is in the character's nature/personality to do something like that.
Q: What about characters who don't have a tabber for them? Like the untrained sensitives, the Witches of Dathomir, and Kylon Rey?
A:
Sensitives who are not at Jedi level, such as the Witches of Dathormir, will not have their profiles changed for now. As I said, the page is not perfect in scope, so I plan (or someone else) to fix this problem later.
As for Kylo Ren, for example, I plan to put the classification "Sith" with a note in the profile explaining that he is not officially a Sith, and therefore he should not be able to use Force Lightning. I will explain in the note that it is only for classification purposes.
Q: How will it be indexed for characters with non-"standard" force powers, like Rey's Force Healing and Cal Kestis' Force Echo? Or force powers that x character can use despite not being in his category, like for example, Rey being a Jedi but being able to use force lighting.
A:
They will be listed like this, I will use Luke, Rey and Cal as examples.
Luke:
- Force Sensitive (Jedi)
- Additional Force Powers: Force Choke (demonstrated here)
- Force Sensitive (Jedi)
- Additional Force Powers: Force Healing (demonstrated here) and Force Lighting (demonstrated here)
Cal:
- Force Sensitive (Jedi)
- Additional Force Powers: Force Echo (demonstrated here)
This review will also be a kind of "general cleaning".
There are many characters whose P&A is empty of justifications or who use legends justifications for something in canon. I'll use Anakin Skywalker's profile.
He has the following in his canon tab:
Energy Manipulation and Matter Manipulation are explanations/justifications coming from Legends and not from canon (Tutaminis is a Legends ability as the fandom wiki explains and the second one says it is from Legends in the justification itself)
And Psychometry, the only way he can have this is with Force Echo, but this Force Power is something that people are born with and not a learned skill. Since this indexed power has no justification and is not even mentioned in his notable skills, this will be removed.
Other examples are Luke and Kylo Ren.
Luke has telepathy for the wrong reasons. As explained on the Star Wars website, it wasn't Luke who spoke to Leia telepathically, but rather that Leia, using her Force sense, was able to feel Luke calling her.
And Kylo Ren's Clairvoyance justification is wrong, since he used a mind probe that extracts information about people/places from their memories. The clairvoyance page says that it has to be through extrasensory perception, which is not what Kylo does (although he won't lose his clairvoyance with the CRT).
I'll also try to somehow keep the personal deeds of the characters' P&A justifications correct. Since it's good for indexing.
Obviously, it's quite laborious and complicated. I hope that supporters follow the application of the CRT, ask me questions or point out errors. And if I make a mistake it wasn't out of malice, whenever I have doubts I will ask the supporters in the general discussion of the verse.
PART 3 - BUT WHAT ABOUT LEGENDS?
As I said before, this will not be added to their pages or tabs because they use a lot of canon material.
After this crt is accepted (I hope), I will take a profile that mixes Legends and Canon in a P&A and do the tab separation like this in Anakin Skywalker's profile. So that I end up leaving nothing from Legends out, I will transport all this old P&A to Legends, leaving only the strength page in the canon tab (I will also leave in this tab powers that are obviously from canon)
Votes:
Agree: (3) @Theglassman12 (Agrees with the Nature of the Force having energy manipulation and agree with the force powers and etc), @DarkDragonMedeus (Agree with everything), @LephyrTheRevanchist (Agree with everything). @FinePoint (Agree with everything)
Neutral: (1) @Theglassman12 (Neutral to Force Nature powers and abilities, exception of energy manipulation)
Disagree:
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