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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Hsharpe said:
Also, has it ever really been actually confirmed that Black Swan is a Remembrance Emanator and not just an average Memokeeper?
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Not yet, as far as I could recall. Implied only.
However though about the chainscaling, probably Emanators should be 3-B since The Herta only lacks justification for that, her not having combat experiences doesn't mean she doesn't qualify for 3-B when Scepters exist and like Titans should be 3-C+ and the rest are 3-C but I haven't look into it so yeah
 
Also, what I find so intriguing is the fact that in HI3, when Kiana is met by a Memokeeper, said Memokeeper recognizes her on the level of an Emanator, not an Aeon. So the fact that THE Herrscher of Finality, in spite of all of the ridiculous feats of power that she's shown, is merely regarded as Emanator level, already tells us how absurdly powerful the Aeons actually are.

Or the Memokeeper could simply be unfamiliar with how Herrschers work and could merely be comparing Kiana to the closest thing she can compare that isn't an Aeon.
 
Hsharpe said:
Also, what I find so intriguing is the fact that in HI3, when Kiana is met by a Memokeeper, said Memokeeper recognizes her on the level of an Emanator, not an Aeon. So the fact that THE Herrscher of Finality, in spite of all of the ridiculous feats of power that she's shown, is merely regarded as Emanator level, already tells us how absurdly powerful the Aeons actually are.

Or the Memokeeper could simply be unfamiliar with how Herrschers work and could merely be comparing Kiana to the closest thing she can compare that isn't an Aeon.
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vid pls
 
Hsharpe said:
Also, what I find so intriguing is the fact that in HI3, when Kiana is met by a Memokeeper, said Memokeeper recognizes her on the level of an Emanator, not an Aeon. So the fact that THE Herrscher of Finality, in spite of all of the ridiculous feats of power that she's shown, is merely regarded as Emanator level, already tells us how absurdly powerful the Aeons actually are.

Or the Memokeeper could simply be unfamiliar with how Herrschers work and could merely be comparing Kiana to the closest thing she can compare that isn't an Aeon.
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Yeah, but again there's no Aeon that presides over that place given it's so isolated that the gaze of the Aeons don't even fall there because of the Cocoon of Finality. I'd say for something like this is something that a Throne Emanator could do (Cyrene with Amphoreus). That said we still don't know what Elio is capable of, though Finality is definitely equal to Equilibrium honestly
 
Voidnether said:
Yeah, but again there's no Aeon that presides over that place given it's so isolated that the gaze of the Aeons don't even fall there because of the Cocoon of Finality. I'd say for something like this is something that a Throne Emanator could do (Cyrene with Amphoreus). That said we still don't know what Elio is capable of, though Finality is definitely equal to Equilibrium honestly
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Throne Emanator bro
 
Am i cooking chat

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Weaving threads are compared to at Least emanator level by memokeeper, Emanator or Aeon level by Devs, Aeon level by Blackswan.
Considering that the nature of CoF is Literally the same as Aeons (Higher Dimensional Beings) and that Kiana did this while in dreams (unstable
powers) clearly doesnt put kiana at a mere emanator level.
If the leaks abt throne level shit is true then Kiana is still gonna be 1-B since thrones are those
comparable to aeons themselves. Otherwise its hoyo just putting shit mid story with 0 explanation number 6969
 
Hsharpe said:
Also, has it ever really been actually confirmed that Black Swan is a Remembrance Emanator and not just an average Memokeeper?
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The statement is essentially she's a Memokeeper and there's another statement saying Memokeepers are Emanators of Remembrance. Its not clear if every Memokeeper is an Emanator or if every Emanator of Remembrance are Memokeeper.
 
Voidnether said:
Yeah, but again there's no Aeon that presides over that place given it's so isolated that the gaze of the Aeons don't even fall there because of the Cocoon of Finality. I'd say for something like this is something that a Throne Emanator could do (Cyrene with Amphoreus). That said we still don't know what Elio is capable of, though Finality is definitely equal to Equilibrium honestly
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Honestly with the throne emanator shit they pulled out of their asses makes sense now...Cocoon of finality was probably a throne emanator and now as becoming one with it,so is Kiana
 
helello100 said:
Honestly with the throne emanator shit they pulled out of their asses makes sense now...Cocoon of finality was probably a throne emanator and now as becoming one with it,so is Kiana
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Cause wtf you mean Finality could end other Aeons and Polka were scared about the universe going into Finality 😭
 
I guess the hype is dead until we get a Myriad Celestia trailer regarding Godslayer Protocol and Acheron's plan with IX or something (Device IX, I presume?), there's really nothing to do with this verse atm that needs fixing (Skaracabaz being 1-B, multiplier chainscaling cause there's a better calc, good profiles quality for amphoreus cast but that's easy to fix ngl and stuff maybe civilization, organization profiles or items and probably the powers & abilities for like the rest of the verse itself because its always lacking but we don't know how much it matters until someone does a versus matchup) probably when people aren't lazy/busy.. Still hoping there'd be anyone interested when fate collab comes out at the least

Even then no one cares enough with the belobog scaling when it's been 2 years or so 😭 Save belobog bruh
 
Voidnether said:
I guess the hype is dead until we get a Myriad Celestia trailer regarding Godslayer Protocol and Acheron's plan with IX or something (Device IX, I presume?), there's really nothing to do with this verse atm that needs fixing (Skaracabaz being 1-B, multiplier chainscaling cause there's a better calc, good profiles quality for amphoreus cast but that's easy to fix ngl and stuff maybe civilization, organization profiles or items and probably the powers & abilities for like the rest of the verse itself because its always lacking but we don't know how much it matters until someone does a versus matchup) probably when someone isn't lazy.. Still hoping there'd be anyone interested when fate collab comes out at the least
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I’d say we keep the blue bug 1-B scaling and upscale the cornerstone users and the entire verse to 1-B fr
 
Took back my own words, 31 characters are INSANE in the Low 1-A category 💔
Someone remove it atp, but ultima's gone
 
Voidnether said:
118 characters for now and it literally includes the Honkaiverse too (GGZ Yog and HI3), that's more dry than like what, Low 1-A? 😭
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This is what happens when someone introduces the 1-B aeon body part meta while ignoring the 10 cornerstone users with an Aeon body part.
 
Why does Jing Yuan and Feixiao's profiles say they are Emanators rather than Lightning Lord and Flying Aureus being Emanators that they simply have access to as Arbiter-Generals?
 
Aint that just their power too? or is this some acheron moment where shes normal and then unsheathes sword and turns into omega sigma hax goddess
 
The spirits are still part of their power, no? Maybe make Jing Yuan's base form 3-C and remove Jingliu's 3-B justification. Since I don't think the latter is superior to the Ten Stonehearts

Edit: nevermind, I didn't put Amphoreus scaling into consideration (ts a mess)
 
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PedjaTarzan said:
Aint that just their power too? or is this some acheron moment where shes normal and then unsheathes sword and turns into omega sigma hax goddess
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No it's not their power. There 7 Spiritus of Lan which are blessed by THEM and given to Arbiter-Generals. They spiritus are handed to the next generation of generals
 
Diasui said:
SHE CAN BLITZ JING YUAN AND FEIXIAO IT'S OVER
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This doesn't really show her blitzing them necessarily but considering how faulty the immeasurable speed scaling is...and Cifera is said to be able travel anywhere instantly using the Coin of Whimsy (whereas she normally comparable to Flame Reaver in speed).
 
Community_Gamer said:
This doesn't really show her blitzing them necessarily but considering how faulty the immeasurable speed scaling is...and Cifera is said to be able travel anywhere instantly using the Coin of Whimsy (whereas she normally comparable to Flame Reaver in speed).
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Does that mean she has Infinite Speed using that coin only?
 
Community_Gamer said:
No it's not their power. There 7 Spiritus of Lan which are blessed by THEM and given to Arbiter-Generals. They spiritus are handed to the next generation of generals
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i mean they are still using them as their own power no? like i said this feels like acheron case where she unleashes full emanator powers upon using her sword…
Tho they are still somewhat relative to lord ravagers so its not that big of a drop in power
 
If Cipher's profile is ready, add breaking the fourth wall in it and the description is "She stole the Honkai Star Rail's logo" Lmao
 
PedjaTarzan said:
i mean they are still using them as their own power no? like i said this feels like acheron case where she unleashes full emanator powers upon using her sword…
Tho they are still somewhat relative to lord ravagers so its not that big of a drop in power
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Yes they are however that doesn't mean their existence and physiology is the same as an Emanators.
 
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