Does VSB downplays DC that much?

[AthelChan]

title explains it.

 

[AthelChan]

I'll add some context

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

We are literally having 1-a revisions for DC Rn. they just only check the wiki and not check the fourm.

 

[SweetDao]

I mean, frankly, if people aren't happy, they can come and propose their own scaling.

Reddit is a never-ending realm of mediocrity. Dogs that always bark but never bite, so all in all, their opinions are irrelevant unless they actually come here.

 

[Chariot190]

DC is def downplayed (in some regards, not all of it mind you, some is fine), but like, mfs working on that right now anyway. Goons just got to Marvel first, but it isn't like ya snap your fingers and change stats, scans, cross checking shit, etc is all required and when you need to do so over thousands of issues, it takes awhile.
Not that Superman in base is ******* 1-A tho so technically yeah the shield might be stronger.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Most people outside the forum aren't aware of it's existence and how things work around here

 

[AthelChan]

ok thanks for the answer

 

[Ebihara]

someone see's somthing that maybe out of date on here and posts it on reddit, not know a CRT maybe underway or people are working on it, very common.

 

[Huesito88]

Not that Superman in base is ******* 1-A tho so technically yeah the shield might be stronger.

So full power Superman (Not fusion or item enhancements) is not 1-A?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

DC Comics Cosmology

This page is dedicated to outlining the distinctions between DC Comics's different cosmologies. To summarize, the DC Universe has three dominant cosmologies characterized primarily (but not exclusively) by their authors: Grant Morrison, Scott Snyder, James Tynion IV, and Joshua Williamson; J.M...

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• Orrery of Worlds - High 1-C: The multiversal superstructure of fifty-two brane universes with eleven dimensions based on M-Theory and Brane Cosmology of which four dimensions constitute any single universe within the 11-D "Bulk" or "Bleed". It's possible that the Orrery of Worlds is not limited to eleven dimensions and that there may be higher dimensions, but since their locations in the cosmology have not been decided, it is difficult to locate them correctly.
  • Plicate and Implicate Order - High 1-B: The interconnection of the universes are pieces that contain the whole. In a series of recessions of worlds being beyond the previous as seen as “dreams” within a larger dream that stretches endlessly.
    • Totality of the Material Plane - Low 1-A: At the very edge of the Cosmos lies limitless time and space. Which itself contains all the levels represented by the hierarchies of the world in the plicate order which are emanated from the higher worlds of the Implicate.
• Sphere of the Gods - 1-A: The magical sphere surrounding the Orrery of Worlds inhabited by gods, demigods, angels, demons or any magical being worshiped by mortals. It is located outside the Orrery's superluminal barrier, where matter is converted into pure information and thus outside of corporeal reality, having archetypal, platonic, and higher vibratory worlds than those of the Orrery of Worlds. It has close ties to beliefs which shaped every realm or entity in the Sphere of the Gods through the Collective Unconscious, and is one of the Connective Energy born of The Source. At the crest of the Sphere of the Gods is the Collective Unconscious, which manifests divinity through belief and is inhabited by Hecate. It is also one of the Connective Energy.
  • Dreaming/Collective Unconscious(Full Extent) - 1-A+: The higher-end realms of the Sphere of the Gods have a hierarchy that seemingly is endlessly and reaches every part of Creation such as the Dreaming, the Red, and the Green which touches every plane and level of existence.
• Comic Book Limbo - 1-A: The last outpost of existence proper before reaching the Monitor Sphere and is the dumping ground for all the forgotten of the Orrery of Worlds. Despite being positioned higher on the Map of the Multiverse, Comic Book Limbo has shown no signs of quantitative superiority over the Sphere of the Gods.
• Monitor Sphere - 1-A: The archetypal Monitor World inhabited by the Monitors of Nil, a primal and fundamental world where space, time, scale are more profound and meaningful. It exists at the edge of things, on a higher plane of existence than Comic Book Limbo, and when Mandrakk fell from there, he fell into the Overvoid and landed in the Dark Multiverse. From there, Mar Novu peered beyond the void, into the Greater Omniverse, to observe the neighboring Multiverses.
• Dark Multiverse - 1-A: The sea of the unconscious upon which floats the Multiverse, located beneath Creation, and containing infinite universes based on the hopes and fears of all living beings in the Orrery of Worlds above. At the center of the Dark Multiverse lies the Forge of Worlds, a place of pure possibility and dark matter, where universes are forged and returned. On the border surrounding the Dark Multiverse is the Otherworld inhabited by the Otherkinds and the Upside-Down Man. It is the dark yet much larger equivalent of the Sphere of the Gods.
• Divine Continuum - 1-A+: The hypothetical model of Existence which is represented by all space and time. (i.e. Omniverse and Hypertime) The Space aspect of the Divine Continuum (Omniverse) is divided by the Orrery of Worlds (and infinite Multiverses), Metaverse (Earth Prime), Sphere of the Gods, Dark Multiverse. The Time aspect of the Divine Continuum (Hypertime) is divided into Limbo and Vanishing Point. It is very likely that higher layers of existence from the SpectraVerse are contained within it, though some layers are outside of Creation.
  • Feats of creation or destruction involving Hypertime timelines should be considered 2-A depending on the context.
• Fifth Dimension - 1-A+: The "energy" that flows between realms is Imagination and is inhabited by imaginary-thought constructs which are considered as "imaginary friends" or "guardian angels". It exists everywhere at once, outside of Time and Hypertime. It has no specific place in the cosmology.
• Sixth Dimension - 1-A+: The highest plane of existence and the final realm, between the Monitor Sphere and the Source Wall within the model of the DC Comics Cosmology. It is a realm of the impossible for things beyond the imagination of most living beings and is outside of time and understanding, in which lower beings could not experience without higher intervention. It distinct itself from the Monitor Sphere in that, although the Monitor Sphere exists at the edge of things, the Sixth Dimension is the highest plane of existence where the Multiverse was designed and set to motion by Perpetua.
• Greater Omniverse/Infinite - High 1-A: Outside the Source Wall lies the "Infinite" or "Greater Omniverse" located within the Overvoid outside and beyond Creation, having conceptual places beyond space and time and where thought and expression are one. It is where infinite Multiverses are created and judged by The Hands, and where the Deep Change operates, the Speed Force being an enmanation of the Deep Change and one of the Connective Energy born of The Source, which itself contains the Gallery of Moments/Garden of Shadows.
  • Unseen Council - High 1-A: The hierarchy of unseen beings that eventually reach The Source. They reside outside the Source Wall, in the Overvoid where they oversee the infinite Multiverses within the Greater Omniverse under oath to The Source. They are positioned far higher in the hierarchy than any god within the Sphere of the Gods or the Monitor Sphere, and beings like Perpetua can tear pieces from the Overvoid.
  • Deep Change/Speedforce - High 1-A: This place of no place transcends the entirety of the Multiverse and its emanative hierarchy as the whole of that is simply a dream from it and only exists due to it.
• Source/Overvoid/Light - High 1-A: The three primordial aspects of The Presence that gave rise to, encompasses and sustains everything in the Greater Omniverse. The Source is the great energy of creation associated with Life and Creation from which any of the Connective Energy, which includes the Speed Force, were born and used by The Hands to shape Multiversal Systems within the Void. The Overvoid/Light of Creation, sometimes associated with Heaven, Angels and Creation, is the conscious living void and canvas of Creation outside of time and space and between the Multiverse and the Great Darkness.
• Great Darkness/Primordial Darkness - High 1-A+ (Type 2): The Primordial Darkness preceding life, death, matter and magic and of which nothing and everything were the same thing. The Source and The Light of Creation were born of the Primordial Darkness which encompasses all.
• Creator/Presence/God - 0: The non-dual and immutable God who breathed everything into existence, standing utterly beyond the war of Light and Darkness, and all opposites, and is in a place where there is no time or space, being synonymous with the Void. It manifest itself in three distinct yet equal figures: Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, The Source, The Light of Creation. The Voice who created The Word when he first spoken, commanding The Light through it, is an aspect of God.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I'll add some context

People using old matches with outdated stats and thinking some of us (Including those who left the wiki long ago) still mantain the same line of thought as 9 years ago is just funny

 

[SweetDao]

DC Comics Cosmology

This page is dedicated to outlining the distinctions between DC Comics's different cosmologies. To summarize, the DC Universe has three dominant cosmologies characterized primarily (but not exclusively) by their authors: Grant Morrison, Scott Snyder, James Tynion IV, and Joshua Williamson; J.M...

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Seems a bit weak, I'll make a reddit post about this

 

[Huesito88]

Seems a bit weak, I'll make a reddit post about this

Tier 0+ DC?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

High Outerversal atoms

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Seems a bit weak, I'll make a reddit post about this

Don't worry, i'm already writing a post on reddit explaining why every atom on DC scales to High 1-A+:

 

[SweetDao]

Tier 0+ DC?

Need DC to be at least equal to this, or else it's trash.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Need DC to be at least equal to this, or else it's trash.

Remember to tier properly and use High Extraversal +++ (Type 9)

 

[AthelChan]

Need DC to be at least equal to this, or else it's trash.

what im i looking at??? wtf its a wall of text.

 

[AthelChan]

anyway this satisfied my question, idek if u can ask to close a qna thread but thanks guys. I got laughs out of this.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

anyway this satisfied my question, idek if u can ask to close a qna thread but thanks guys. I got laughs out of this.

I gotchu

 

[Theglassman12]

Nah we haven't downplayed DC hard enough, all versions of Superman should just be 9-B because he's called the man of steel, not the man of the Galaxy to Low Multiverse.