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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

If only that was how that worked. "Black holes" more specifically the accretion disk can reach unfathomable heat.... but they take wayy too long to form esp in this context where it probably only lasted a few seconds at most. And I am fairly certain they need an insane amount of matter/mass in the first place.

And Then, that's assuming Tsukumo's black hole is rotating/has angular momentum, which happens when the star before its collapse is spinning (which vast majority usually do). And obv Tsukumo herself was completely stationary.


Sorry went full nerd mode there...
 
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Keshirou said:
7-A to High 7-A should be for every Special Grade sorcerers if Mechamaru's years output would be accepted. Kenjaku stated that years blasts is on par with Special Grade's output.
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Yeah
Problem is the mechamaru calc used as base for the Multiplier was deemed inaccurate
It was recalced here to be 27.82 tons (it hasn't been accepted yet tho)
So it would be;
1.) One year - 877331520 tons of TNT (Mountain level 7A)
2.) Two years - 1754663040 tons of TNT (High mountain level H7A)
3.) Five years - 4386657600 tons of TNT ( Island level 6C)
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Yeah
Problem is the mechamaru calc used as base for the Multiplier was deemed inaccurate
It was recalced here to be 27.82 tons (it hasn't been accepted yet tho)
So it would be;
1.) One year - 877331520 tons of TNT (Mountain level 7A)
2.) Two years - 1754663040 tons of TNT (High mountain level H7A)
3.) Five years - 4386657600 tons of TNT ( Island level 6C)
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If the new mechamaru calc becomes the default, i'll change but for now imma keep it the current
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Yeah
Problem is the mechamaru calc used as base for the Multiplier was deemed inaccurate
It was recalced here to be 27.82 tons (it hasn't been accepted yet tho)
So it would be;
1.) One year - 877331520 tons of TNT (Mountain level 7A)
2.) Two years - 1754663040 tons of TNT (High mountain level H7A)
3.) Five years - 4386657600 tons of TNT ( Island level 6C)
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Why did I get visions of dozens of other verse supporters coming in to swarm the crt when they see 6C 🐊
 
Arkenis said:
Why did I get visions of dozens of other verse supporters coming in to swarm the crt when they see 6C 🐊
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We're going to run a legendary gauntlet with this AP upgrade
I can sense demon Slayer fans throwing hands with the 6C calc on sight

It's either we create the greatest CRT known to man or we fail so hard that it'll take months to recover
There's no in-between
 
DarkRuler234 said:
"Plot Induced stupidity" aka Gojo doing something totally in character for him.

Let's be honest Gojo does have the tendency to drop his guards in the worst possible moments, especially when he thinks he is in the advantage, and he never bothered to change that.

And you can easily argue that Gojo also had plot armor during his fight against Sukuna, so this is kinda of redundant to discuss.
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"redundant to discuss" "aka Gojo doing something totally in character for him" lmao. You mean the same Gojo who Gege said thousands of times that he can see through any CT in verse? Please stop yapping if you don't know what you're talking about 😂🙏

And saying Gojo had plot armor is crazy when we saw Sukuna display crazy amount of plot armor. Care to explain why the manga didn't explain how Sukuna could use 10S let alone maintain mahoraga wheel on Megumi's soul whilst in a CT burnout effect? You can't because Gege doesn't explain why neither does the characters talk about it. That's one blatant plot hole.
Number two is Mahoraga suddenly being capable of copying cursed techniques blatantly, (specifically dismantle) and then upgrading it, allowing Sukuna to have a easy victory when he can already see what his shikigami can do and has control over it, thus allowing him to pull up an ass pull. That's number two
Number 3 is Gege blatantly allowing the domain battles to end at the exact same minute and second despite that being completely impossible to happen since Gojo would have to land the exact same hit with the exact same output on Sukuna in the following domain battles in the basketball domain. But the actual issue with this is that Sukuna has to spam rct, maintain 10S, use DA etc. Compared to Gojo, he's literally losing CE far faster than Gojo is (who isn't losing anything anyways, as it would be the same as saying nothing) and yet his durability isn't getting any lower. According to Ryu, he implied that having more CE = higher durability. He says this when fighting Yuta h2h. If that's the case then Sukuna should be losing quicker due to taking more damage.
To further expand on this, Gojo said that CE reserves play a role in domain battles too. This may refer to endurance, like how long your domain can last. A good example is Megumi somehow being able to last for quite a while against a domain that is complete with his incomplete domain that doesn't even have a barrier refinement to it - indicating large amount of CE reserves. In that case, Sukuna in the domain battles wouldn't last that much longer either since his domain endurance would go down.


Now for the obvious - Six Eyes for some reason not working as Gege has told us it should be, especially when chapters later in ch255, flashback post volume 0 Gojo with his glasses on that nerfs his six eyes, said that he can see and understand Miguel's CT just by looking at him. Every CT to be activated also requires CE. So how could Gojo not tell Sukuna is using 10S with his six eyes not covered, and his CE reinforcement reinforcing his five senses? 😂
You wouldn't know this since you decided to yap and not read the manga since even without the tons of statements from guidebook we literally see Gojo understand how mf's CT or Domain amplification work with his glasses or blindfold on. Heck he was even able to tell that Sukuna's CT was slowly being engraved onto Yuji's soul and body (Yes your CT also exists on your soul. Sukuna is a great example. And so is Kenjaku being able to use the CTs of those body that he possesses despite their brain being gone)



Anyways you didn't read the plot induced stupidity page when I reread your first sentence since you think this is specifically personality based thing when it isn't. This talks about a character's abilities. For example, pretend that Batman can see 4km away with his eyes alone but suddenly he sees less than that for no reason.

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Plot-Induced Stupidity

Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...
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Read it before wasting my time.

Man it's so crazy as to how even in chapter 11 weekly release we're told Gojo can see through anything with six eyes which would include Sukuna's CT since sukuna already used his dismantle before 🤣
その瞳は、どこまでも見通す。
“Those eyes see through everything.”



Also let's be honest that Gojo literally learns from his mistakes of dropping his guard. And the crazy thing is that none of the examples you could come up with - Kenjaku or Toji or Hanami - would even apply to the situation with Gojo supposedly dropping his guard against Sukuna. Why? Because Gojo is quite literally in a fight, A fighter, in the black flash zone which means extreme focus and his six eyes is also further buffed thanks to the zone. But the actual reason is because he's literally staring at Sukuna. In other instances, Kenjaku took advantage through emotional shock. Toji took advantage of Gojo being worried about Amanai. Hanami hid her presence and dropped in when Gojo was focused on Jogo and were in a ct burnout nerf.

None of this would prove that it would apply to the situation of Gojo v Sukuna. If anything you're simply steelmanning me because you're showing me instances which Gojo has learned from. Toji. Kenjaku. Etc. Gojo has simply gotten more experienced. Humans after all learn and adapt. All Gege did is ignore that. Pretend that six eyes can't see through Sukuna. Etc.

But yeah bro, Gojo has the plot armor huh? Maybe you should check what Gege has to say about who's #1 strongest in the Gojo booklet [Spoilers: It is Gojo. Literally said it 3-4 times there] and see who's the one being given forced plot advantages and who's getting hit by plot induced stupidity. Because it ain't Sukuna.
 
Fun fact about Limitless based on what Gege has released from what I've found so far thanks to a friend
There's four statements talking about Limitless in the volume 0 Novel (Which was released at the end of 2021)
One says Limitless is a unrivaled technique. Second says Red quite literally produces infinite mass. Third says Limitless has unprecedented destructive power (From what I remember it uses the same kanji used for the one in the Gojo booklet. It's similar to "non-standard" and both statements in jap do carry nuance of being #1 normally). And the fourth quite literally says Limitless cursed technique has strongest destructive power. All narrator statements.
Moving onto fanbook:
Fanbook has like two statements calling Limitless non-standard. One in the volume talk page. The other when talking about bypassing Jiro's CT and Limitless was listed as one of them. There's also one statement in the six eyes section calling Limitless strongest CT.

Gojo booklet has one statement calling Purple unprecedented in power. And one statement calling Purple unrivaled in power.



And there is no CT ever called non-standard in verse, not even guidebooks. Heck, pretty sure vol 25 official trailer has one calling purple nonstandard again or something tho I haven't checked that one properly.
Even Jump Gigas pertaining to JJK got none for other CTs as far as I've checked.
Maybe there is one in the Weekly release section of JJK chapters but I haven't seen any.
The Yuta statement that talks about him being second to Gojo in strange ability, also tells us indirectly that Limitless again #1, but that kanji more so talks about being "Unique". Copy would be #2 in verse in being unique then? Honestly idk what that wording is even supposed to mean. Might check properly later on.

Anyways Limitless #1 in every aspect 😴
Assuming that we do get the final fanbook for JJK... Given the consistency so far, others may not even get one nonstandard power statement for their CT's (Sukuna, Yuki, Yuta, Yorozu etc), let alone strongest statements ☹️ gege likes glazing Limitless.



Oh and for those interested in Gojo's character writing: Someone gonna be posting full fan TL of Gojo booklet apparently. Looks good from what I heard. ill link it here when they release it.
 
Arkenis said:
Infinite mass Red? Oh yeah high 3-A just became real
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The funny thing is that if we take certain characters like vol 0 Rika and Hakari JP as having infinite CE reserves, and then take Ryu's statement who implies that more CE = higher dura, then you'd get infinite dura scaling JJK characters and then get infinite ap off of that 😭😭 just funny. Like I don't think anybody would be using this for real since despite it being TRUE (Not as in valid scaling or consistent but that it's like a "I don't even think Gege even genuinely thought of this let alone agree with it" sort of thing similar to the Black Flash power to 2.5 thing. So outlier in short?) it also isn't true for obvious reasons that we all know why for.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
"redundant to discuss" "aka Gojo doing something totally in character for him" lmao. You mean the same Gojo who Gege said thousands of times that he can see through any CT in verse? Please stop yapping if you don't know what you're talking about 😂🙏

And saying Gojo had plot armor is crazy when we saw Sukuna display crazy amount of plot armor. Care to explain why the manga didn't explain how Sukuna could use 10S let alone maintain mahoraga wheel on Megumi's soul whilst in a CT burnout effect? You can't because Gege doesn't explain why neither does the characters talk about it. That's one blatant plot hole.
Number two is Mahoraga suddenly being capable of copying cursed techniques blatantly, (specifically dismantle) and then upgrading it, allowing Sukuna to have a easy victory when he can already see what his shikigami can do and has control over it, thus allowing him to pull up an ass pull. That's number two
Number 3 is Gege blatantly allowing the domain battles to end at the exact same minute and second despite that being completely impossible to happen since Gojo would have to land the exact same hit with the exact same output on Sukuna in the following domain battles in the basketball domain. But the actual issue with this is that Sukuna has to spam rct, maintain 10S, use DA etc. Compared to Gojo, he's literally losing CE far faster than Gojo is (who isn't losing anything anyways, as it would be the same as saying nothing) and yet his durability isn't getting any lower. According to Ryu, he implied that having more CE = higher durability. He says this when fighting Yuta h2h. If that's the case then Sukuna should be losing quicker due to taking more damage.
To further expand on this, Gojo said that CE reserves play a role in domain battles too. This may refer to endurance, like how long your domain can last. A good example is Megumi somehow being able to last for quite a while against a domain that is complete with his incomplete domain that doesn't even have a barrier refinement to it - indicating large amount of CE reserves. In that case, Sukuna in the domain battles wouldn't last that much longer either since his domain endurance would go down.


Now for the obvious - Six Eyes for some reason not working as Gege has told us it should be, especially when chapters later in ch255, flashback post volume 0 Gojo with his glasses on that nerfs his six eyes, said that he can see and understand Miguel's CT just by looking at him. Every CT to be activated also requires CE. So how could Gojo not tell Sukuna is using 10S with his six eyes not covered, and his CE reinforcement reinforcing his five senses? 😂
You wouldn't know this since you decided to yap and not read the manga since even without the tons of statements from guidebook we literally see Gojo understand how mf's CT or Domain amplification work with his glasses or blindfold on. Heck he was even able to tell that Sukuna's CT was slowly being engraved onto Yuji's soul and body (Yes your CT also exists on your soul. Sukuna is a great example. And so is Kenjaku being able to use the CTs of those body that he possesses despite their brain being gone)



Anyways you didn't read the plot induced stupidity page when I reread your first sentence since you think this is specifically personality based thing when it isn't. This talks about a character's abilities. For example, pretend that Batman can see 4km away with his eyes alone but suddenly he sees less than that for no reason.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Plot-Induced Stupidity

Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...
vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Read it before wasting my time.

Man it's so crazy as to how even in chapter 11 weekly release we're told Gojo can see through anything with six eyes which would include Sukuna's CT since sukuna already used his dismantle before 🤣
その瞳は、どこまでも見通す。
“Those eyes see through everything.”



Also let's be honest that Gojo literally learns from his mistakes of dropping his guard. And the crazy thing is that none of the examples you could come up with - Kenjaku or Toji or Hanami - would even apply to the situation with Gojo supposedly dropping his guard against Sukuna. Why? Because Gojo is quite literally in a fight, A fighter, in the black flash zone which means extreme focus and his six eyes is also further buffed thanks to the zone. But the actual reason is because he's literally staring at Sukuna. In other instances, Kenjaku took advantage through emotional shock. Toji took advantage of Gojo being worried about Amanai. Hanami hid her presence and dropped in when Gojo was focused on Jogo and were in a ct burnout nerf.

None of this would prove that it would apply to the situation of Gojo v Sukuna. If anything you're simply steelmanning me because you're showing me instances which Gojo has learned from. Toji. Kenjaku. Etc. Gojo has simply gotten more experienced. Humans after all learn and adapt. All Gege did is ignore that. Pretend that six eyes can't see through Sukuna. Etc.

But yeah bro, Gojo has the plot armor huh? Maybe you should check what Gege has to say about who's #1 strongest in the Gojo booklet [Spoilers: It is Gojo. Literally said it 3-4 times there] and see who's the one being given forced plot advantages and who's getting hit by plot induced stupidity. Because it ain't Sukuna.
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
"redundant to discuss" "aka Gojo doing something totally in character for him" lmao. You mean the same Gojo who Gege said thousands of times that he can see through any CT in verse? Please stop yapping if you don't know what you're talking about 😂🙏

And saying Gojo had plot armor is crazy when we saw Sukuna display crazy amount of plot armor. Care to explain why the manga didn't explain how Sukuna could use 10S let alone maintain mahoraga wheel on Megumi's soul whilst in a CT burnout effect? You can't because Gege doesn't explain why neither does the characters talk about it. That's one blatant plot hole.
Number two is Mahoraga suddenly being capable of copying cursed techniques blatantly, (specifically dismantle) and then upgrading it, allowing Sukuna to have a easy victory when he can already see what his shikigami can do and has control over it, thus allowing him to pull up an ass pull. That's number two
Number 3 is Gege blatantly allowing the domain battles to end at the exact same minute and second despite that being completely impossible to happen since Gojo would have to land the exact same hit with the exact same output on Sukuna in the following domain battles in the basketball domain. But the actual issue with this is that Sukuna has to spam rct, maintain 10S, use DA etc. Compared to Gojo, he's literally losing CE far faster than Gojo is (who isn't losing anything anyways, as it would be the same as saying nothing) and yet his durability isn't getting any lower. According to Ryu, he implied that having more CE = higher durability. He says this when fighting Yuta h2h. If that's the case then Sukuna should be losing quicker due to taking more damage.
To further expand on this, Gojo said that CE reserves play a role in domain battles too. This may refer to endurance, like how long your domain can last. A good example is Megumi somehow being able to last for quite a while against a domain that is complete with his incomplete domain that doesn't even have a barrier refinement to it - indicating large amount of CE reserves. In that case, Sukuna in the domain battles wouldn't last that much longer either since his domain endurance would go down.


Now for the obvious - Six Eyes for some reason not working as Gege has told us it should be, especially when chapters later in ch255, flashback post volume 0 Gojo with his glasses on that nerfs his six eyes, said that he can see and understand Miguel's CT just by looking at him. Every CT to be activated also requires CE. So how could Gojo not tell Sukuna is using 10S with his six eyes not covered, and his CE reinforcement reinforcing his five senses? 😂
You wouldn't know this since you decided to yap and not read the manga since even without the tons of statements from guidebook we literally see Gojo understand how mf's CT or Domain amplification work with his glasses or blindfold on. Heck he was even able to tell that Sukuna's CT was slowly being engraved onto Yuji's soul and body (Yes your CT also exists on your soul. Sukuna is a great example. And so is Kenjaku being able to use the CTs of those body that he possesses despite their brain being gone)



Anyways you didn't read the plot induced stupidity page when I reread your first sentence since you think this is specifically personality based thing when it isn't. This talks about a character's abilities. For example, pretend that Batman can see 4km away with his eyes alone but suddenly he sees less than that for no reason.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Plot-Induced Stupidity

Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...
vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Read it before wasting my time.

Man it's so crazy as to how even in chapter 11 weekly release we're told Gojo can see through anything with six eyes which would include Sukuna's CT since sukuna already used his dismantle before 🤣
その瞳は、どこまでも見通す。
“Those eyes see through everything.”



Also let's be honest that Gojo literally learns from his mistakes of dropping his guard. And the crazy thing is that none of the examples you could come up with - Kenjaku or Toji or Hanami - would even apply to the situation with Gojo supposedly dropping his guard against Sukuna. Why? Because Gojo is quite literally in a fight, A fighter, in the black flash zone which means extreme focus and his six eyes is also further buffed thanks to the zone. But the actual reason is because he's literally staring at Sukuna. In other instances, Kenjaku took advantage through emotional shock. Toji took advantage of Gojo being worried about Amanai. Hanami hid her presence and dropped in when Gojo was focused on Jogo and were in a ct burnout nerf.

None of this would prove that it would apply to the situation of Gojo v Sukuna. If anything you're simply steelmanning me because you're showing me instances which Gojo has learned from. Toji. Kenjaku. Etc. Gojo has simply gotten more experienced. Humans after all learn and adapt. All Gege did is ignore that. Pretend that six eyes can't see through Sukuna. Etc.

But yeah bro, Gojo has the plot armor huh? Maybe you should check what Gege has to say about who's #1 strongest in the Gojo booklet [Spoilers: It is Gojo. Literally said it 3-4 times there] and see who's the one being given forced plot advantages and who's getting hit by plot induced stupidity. Because it ain't Sukuna.
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And this is coming from two or more mf's that aren't as smart and experienced as Gojo is 💔 they knew he had something hidden bro (transformation and fire arrow but they or at least Gojo didn't know what it was cuz plot when Gojo could just use six eyes and see fire arrow). So did Gojo. (literally talks about it in 236...)

Gege try not to make blatant writing mistakes challenge impossible: "His guard was down"
 

could someone calculate the Mach angle for me?
I'm currently on mobile so I'm unable to do it (seriously why doesn't Android have all these tools?)
 
Saw this question on Reddit so why not ask it here
All Heavy Hitters in the same body vs Gojo and Sukuna
The HH Chimera has access to Hakari's Jackpot and RCT skills without domain, Yuji's body, Maki's domain immunity and Yuta's domain, copied CTs and Rika.
Can it beat Sukuna and Gojo 1v1?
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Saw this question on Reddit so why not ask it here
All Heavy Hitters in the same body vs Gojo and Sukuna
The HH Chimera has access to Hakari's Jackpot and RCT skills without domain, Yuji's body, Maki's domain immunity and Yuta's domain, copied CTs and Rika.
Can it beat Sukuna and Gojo 1v1?
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What the **** even is this thing...? Does this include Kashimo and Kenjaku? If so then Jesus ******* Christ....
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Saw this question on Reddit so why not ask it here
All Heavy Hitters in the same body vs Gojo and Sukuna
The HH Chimera has access to Hakari's Jackpot and RCT skills without domain, Yuji's body, Maki's domain immunity and Yuta's domain, copied CTs and Rika.
Can it beat Sukuna and Gojo 1v1?
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Was this assuming constant jackpot without need for a domain? Yknow what doesn’t matter they get cleave to the head diffed, hollow purple diffed, or just domain diffed in general
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Saw this question on Reddit so why not ask it here
All Heavy Hitters in the same body vs Gojo and Sukuna
The HH Chimera has access to Hakari's Jackpot and RCT skills without domain, Yuji's body, Maki's domain immunity and Yuta's domain, copied CTs and Rika.
Can it beat Sukuna and Gojo 1v1?
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領域展開
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Saw this question on Reddit so why not ask it here
All Heavy Hitters in the same body vs Gojo and Sukuna
The HH Chimera has access to Hakari's Jackpot and RCT skills without domain, Yuji's body, Maki's domain immunity and Yuta's domain, copied CTs and Rika.
Can it beat Sukuna and Gojo 1v1?
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Full power sukuna dismantle diff
 
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