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And he's not not given a solid rating for no displayed showing or other supporting material. Sentry should get the same treatment in my mind.
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Thunderbolts* Spoiler Discussion Thread
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that is supporting material? Numerous official statements?
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Statements aren't in-universe showings, they're statements. I know how you feel about this point so there's no reason to continue this topic because I'm not changing my mind either.
In my view his 5-C rating should be either High 4-C or 4-B for the Exploding Sun statement but his base rating stays until he gets actual scaling or a displayed showing. We can continue this whenever the CRT is made for the profile revamp.
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who’s making the crt cause his profile needs a major revamp regardless of tier
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Fine by me honestly, the higher end scaling I'll just keep for myself
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I'm not doin' it, you can take my scans and do it if you wanna
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Did we get calc about thousand suns exploding?
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Yes pretty sure it was mentioned in this thread
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It's got accepted?
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An exploding sun is a supernova which releases 1 Foe of energy, 1000 Foe or 1 KiloFoe is 4-B
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Yeah, that High 3-A Environmental Destruction in the Void Dimension that I said was based on my Country's dub guys, and has no support in the og language or any other material, just wanted to point out this, I'm not going for anything at Tier 3
Anyway, Bob has way too many statements to be anything under Tier 4, beyond Captain Marvel by WoG and a 1000 Suns power should leave him at "Likely 4-B" or anything the result of the calc ends up being
My suggestion:
Anyway, Bob has way too many statements to be anything under Tier 4, beyond Captain Marvel by WoG and a 1000 Suns power should leave him at "Likely 4-B" or anything the result of the calc ends up being
My suggestion:
- Main scaling comes from his own calc
- Support comes from his statements
- Likely tier since it relies on statements
No need to go into way too many details like the current profile does, much less any 8-C scaling, his quotes, calc and feats are quite solid on their own
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Also shouldn't Bob/Sentry be in the Thunderbolts team profile?
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I don’t think he’s a real member like the ending of the film says thunderbolts/new avengers & BoB will return
He’s not really apart of the team
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That calc is wrong though, it uses the GBE of stars when the statement is a thousand exploding suns i.e. a supernova. Is a calc even necessary? It's simply multiplying an already scientifically calculated event by 1000
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If we interpret that as Sentry being the most powerful foe any of the Thunderbolts has ever faced, that still makes him more powerful than Thanos
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Considering that Thanos scales completely relative, if not a tiny bit superior, to the Avengers at 5-C. That's fine
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I think we can agree that the "& Bob" was purely for comedic gag.
And the end credits has him still with them as the new AvengerZ
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So what would his tier would be if we upgrade him to tier 4? Would it be 4-B or High 4-C for the latter rating?
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We don't know yet. Cus "exploding sun" is rather nebulous, that doesn't directly mean a full-on supernova.
I myself would say High 4-C, through that calc but who knows.
I myself would say High 4-C, through that calc but who knows.
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If Bob is added to the team profile, it'd probably have to be noted that he won't use his powers in-character as part of the group.
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Oh yeah of course
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No because he’s never officially stated as part of the team when she introduced the avengers he was clapping alongside the civilians the newspaper section at the ending also has people say he’s not apart of the team and he’s a mysterious stranger who hangs out with them because that’s all he is
He’s never once been stated to be apart of the team I don’t think and is constantly separated from it like the & boB thing
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It would be, in my mind, whatever Avengers scaling is accepted, likely 4-B. Or 8-C, likely 4-B. Then for the value it would be 10^47 or 1 Kilofoe.
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Shouldn't he be at least 5-C at minimum for damaging the Vibranium arm? So "At least 5-C, likely 4-B?
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Same feelings here
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I forgot about the arm ngl. But yeah, 5-C, likely 4-B.
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That's the issue, the "Avengers scaling" has two versions:
One is inside the movie and done through what the government knows about the Avengers, which would be 5-C
The other one is done by WoG where such knowledge limitations don't apply, even going as far as saying Sentry is a mix of Thor (Currently 5-B+), Marvel and Vision, which would put him at Low 4-C
Personally, I think WoG is much better/safer, the Super-Casual-Still-Getting-Used-to-His-Powers Vibranium feat is merely support unless we add a key that uses only direct feats and no statements
One is inside the movie and done through what the government knows about the Avengers, which would be 5-C
The other one is done by WoG where such knowledge limitations don't apply, even going as far as saying Sentry is a mix of Thor (Currently 5-B+), Marvel and Vision, which would put him at Low 4-C
Personally, I think WoG is much better/safer, the Super-Casual-Still-Getting-Used-to-His-Powers Vibranium feat is merely support unless we add a key that uses only direct feats and no statements
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Sentry is a member of the team, he lives in the tower with them. But the main personality Bob is useless as a teammate which is why he's referred to separately. He kinda plays the same role as Peter in Deadpool 
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It should just have a "Note" describing that in character. Robert will not use his powers due to the fear of the Void taking over again.
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He won’t use his powers or ever get the Chance to because he isn’t apart of the team
Literally there are literal pictures and cereal boxes of the new avengers and notice how BoB isn’t there but everyone else is because he isn’t apart of the team he never was nor is he stated to be apart of the team news paper articles explicitly just call him a mysterious stranger who hangs out with them so not on the team like it says in the end credits the new avengers & BoB will return because he’s explicitly separated from the team that’s not a gag if they intend for him to be apart of the team they wouldn’t separate him from the team
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I mean, you can't really market the guy as a hero if he can't really do anything to help at the moment. He's more of an unofficial member since he'd probably very much help them out if he could, it just that the void would be unleashed if he tried.He won’t use his powers or ever get the Chance to because he isn’t apart of the team
Literally there are literal pictures and cereal boxes of the new avengers and notice how BoB isn’t there but everyone else is because he isn’t apart of the team he never was nor is he stated to be apart of the team news paper articles explicitly just call him a mysterious stranger who hangs out with them so not on the team like it says in the end credits the new avengers & BoB will return because he’s explicitly separated from the team that’s not a gag if they intend for him to be apart of the team they wouldn’t separate him from the team
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WoG is much safer simply because in-universe, the statement is from Valentina who clearly has no idea of what she truly created, particulary when her attempt to kill Bob only resulted in something far worse than anything she could have imagined being created
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Correction: he won't use his powers because it'll risk allowing the Void to take over once again and everybody knows how catastrophic the outcome can (and certainly will) be. Him not being on the team isn't the cause, just the consequence
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Yeah Sentry should have Non-Physical Interaction (Intangibility [Phasing]; ) specifically
And shouldn't he have Resistance to Durability Negation, due to him not feelin anythin from Ghosts' Attacks. Which her profile has Durability Negation by phasing through her enemies.
And shouldn't he have Resistance to Durability Negation, due to him not feelin anythin from Ghosts' Attacks. Which her profile has Durability Negation by phasing through her enemies.
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Good point
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Also, I kind of remember that in the beginning of the fight, he repels two members of the team with a telekinetic shockwave but I'm not sure
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