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Speed equalizedDeku blitz amps.![]()
What amplifiers are you talking about? I didn't find anything about this in the profilespeed amps are allowed in speed = matches
so deku blitz
Scroll down a little bit.. yk... past the P&A.What amplifiers are you talking about? I didn't find anything about this in the profile
There is no indication of a specific boost. Do you know how much exactly it increases the stats?Scroll down a little bit.. yk... past the P&A.
Gearshift isn't in this keyIzuku “Fa Jin + Gearshift Ggs” Midoriya when speed equalization (he blitzes his opponent immensely):
Fa jin can turn into a blitz amp. Fa jin is also bare minimum a 5x multiplier for his AP and can charge up even higher into a one shot that is capable of instantly destroying shigaraki until theres nothing left, effectively bypassing his regeneration.There is no indication of a specific boost. Do you know how much exactly it increases the stats?
Fa jin can turn into a blitz amp. Fa jin is also bare minimum a 5x multiplier for his AP and can charge up even higher into a one shot that is capable of instantly destroying shigaraki until theres nothing left, effectively bypassing his regeneration.
Fa Jin’s speed boost is a blitz amp. That’s all we know.How strong is Fa Jin's speed boost? Kaneki's RE and AD are superior to his old AD, which allowed him to blitz an opponent he was fighting on equal terms with a minute ago.
A x5 hit is enough to speed up RE. Last time, when he was cornered and took serious damage, the power spike allowed him to oneshot an opponent who was suppressing him before.
Does Fa Jin have dura neg? And isn't his win against Shigaraki part of the final key?
Force fields and duplicates can be useful in this fight, as the force field deals damage while in contact with it
Fa Jin’s speed boost is a blitz amp. That’s all we know.
Fa Jin isn’t a dura neg but it can completely obliterate Shigaraki until there’s nothing left of him. Anything Deku does in a fight can charge up Fa Jin. Btw the charging up into a one shot isn’t specific towards the final war key. It’s not a new ability he gained for fa Jin either. It’s always just been able to do that.
Deku’s standard tactic is to just end the fight quickly. He can also just spam air punches from long ranges flying in the air. He’s also has just done this when fighting against an attack reflection quirk that kept absorbing his attacks (ignore the music)
There’s also like a massive LS gap in where Deku can just restrain him with Blackwhip.
Deku has his own analytical prediction alongside danger sense as well. He has also already fought people with analytical prediction.Kaneki's AD allows him to blitzed characters who were suppressing him a few seconds earlier. So the speed difference can be quickly reduced. Also, Kaneki's analytical prediction will help him to deflect the blow. It scales to Suzuya, who already successfully bypasses blitz from behind with prediction.
Will Fa Jin bypass the force field and high-mid damage? Because the x2.5 advantage is not enough to turn his body into mush in one hit.
Kaneki's LS is 529 million tons, while Deku's LS is 21 million tons, so Kaneki can pin him down with his kagune
Kaneki scales up to Arima, who is able to fight 3 opponents with one hand without looking at them. He also has instinctive reactions and heightened senses, so I imagine he would have a slight advantage in that department.Deku has his own analytical prediction alongside danger sense as well. He has also already fought people with analytical prediction.
force field deals damage on contact and can withstand attacks that exceed the user's AP many times over. Therefore, punches can be dangerous for Deku. But the force field is an active skill and consumes a lot of energyI don’t see why the force field wouldn’t be bypassed from him just spamming normal punches like against flect turn (which would indirectly charge fa Jin).
Wasn't it because of the difference in stats? Otherwise it's dura neg.Also considering Fa Jin can be charged up into a one shot that can completely obliterate Shigaraki with nothing remaining of him then I wouldn’t see why fa Jin wouldn’t put him down for good.
Kaneki's regeneration is not infinite, so Deku can exhaust him in a prolonged fight.If it didn’t then this would be a stomp match and can’t be added anyways due to the regeneration. Unless Deku’s able to use soul manipulation here. He is capable of transferring OFA into his victims and damage their soul. The thing is, his soul manipulation is only in his final war arc key even though the scans for his soul manipulation is using previous arcs as well. He also found out about being capable of damaging his victims souls via transferring OFA from the OFA vestiges. Due to this, I don’t see why the OFA vestiges couldn’t just tell Deku the same thing here and transfer OFA to Kaneki. But I’ll just leave this up to everyone here to decide if this is applicable or not here.
Deku has enhanced senses and extrasensory perception with danger sense both buffing his analytical prediction really high so I’d personally have Deku in this regard or just equal.Kaneki scales up to Arima, who is able to fight 3 opponents with one hand without looking at them. He also has instinctive reactions and heightened senses, so I imagine he would have a slight advantage in that department.
force field deals damage on contact and can withstand attacks that exceed the user's AP many times over. Therefore, punches can be dangerous for Deku. But the force field is an active skill and consumes a lot of energy
Wasn't it because of the difference in stats? Otherwise it's dura neg.
Kaneki's regeneration is not infinite, so Deku can exhaust him in a prolonged fight.
Oh, I think it's equalDeku has enhanced senses and extrasensory perception with danger sense both buffing his analytical prediction really high so I’d personally have Deku in this regard or just equal.
Did he show a 10km fight in this vein?Does his force field damage him on contact even if he’s spamming wind punches from tens of kilometers away? If not then I don’t see why it would be dangerous. Even then, he’s fought numerous times damaging himself with his own powers and ignored the pain anyways.
I'm still not sure that a difference of x2.48 is enough to completely destroy the body.It’s because of how high fa Jin charges up to make it a one shot. I wouldn’t really call it a dura neg.
Kaneki can use doubles to distract attention and then go behind them at that moment.If it’s not infinite. What stops Deku from flying up in the air and spam wind punches to exhaust him. Deku has fought months while crippled, barely no food, barely any sleep, all while trying to arrest criminals and hunt down AFO. His range is also tens of kilometers.
Idk, honestlyAnyways would soul manipulation be applicable here or not.
Whoops. Tens of Kilometers was from 100%. Its hundreds of meters. Deku either fights close or long range. Even then, it can still do it in closer range like with flect turn.Did he show a 10km fight in this vein?
I thought he preferred close combat.
Moreover, considering the equalized speed, fighting at such a distance would not be the best solution. Kaneki will have enough time to dodge
I'm still not sure that a difference of x2.48 is enough to completely destroy the body.
Kaneki can use doubles to distract attention and then go behind them at that moment.
Idk, honestly
Well, Kaneki also has shockwaves that are hundreds of meters long and are twice as strong as Deku's AP.Whoops. Tens of Kilometers was from 100%. Its hundreds of meters. Deku either fights close or long range. Even then, it can still do it in closer range like with flect turn.
I understand that it's a x5 multiplier. However, Kaneki has a x2 advantage to begin with, which reduces that difference.5x was the bare minimum
Even if it's x10, due to the initial difference it's not enough to oneshot due to the initial AP gapThe panel says he can charge up even higher to make it a one shot that strong to obliterate his entire body.
Is this really applicable to the 30% key? Did he demonstrate this in the 30% key? Because the videos you sent me apply to 100%This statement was made when Shigaraki already adapted to Gear shift Deku while Deku is beaten up while Shigaraki showed zero signs of fatigue. while having reactive evolution to boost his durability even more. It goes even higher with faux 100% here too.
At the very least, this will give him an additional advantage.Kaneki using doubles wouldn't work as Deku's danger sense would just detect Kaneki's exact location and Deku would know that he's trying to sneak attack him. He also has smokescreen that covers several city blocks.
Oh shitDeku also has multi continental durability with his gauntlets and shoes.
Did Deku really fight for a month without stopping? Because if he took breaks to rest, it was a feat of recuperationNgl between Fa Jin, the possibility of soul manip being applicable, spamming wind punch barrages, and Deku just flying and sniping him in a stamina drawn battle while having a months long stamina as his justification to beat his regeneration, I'll just vote for Deku.
True but then again Deku does have flight that would make this really annoying for him. Also in another versus thread in the same 30% key, someone was making an argument about Deku flying a kilometer into the air. Just wanted to mention that.Well, Kaneki also has shockwaves that are hundreds of meters long and are twice as strong as Deku's AP.
I understand that it's a x5 multiplier. However, Kaneki has a x2 advantage to begin with, which reduces that difference.
Even if it's x10, due to the initial difference it's not enough to oneshot due to the initial AP gap
Is this really applicable to the 30% key? Did he demonstrate this in the 30% key? Because the videos you sent me apply to 100%
At the very least, this will give him an additional advantage.
Oh shit
Did Deku really fight for a month without stopping? Because if he took breaks to rest, it was a feat of recuperation
This dude is just a pain in the ass, I admit it.True but then again Deku does have flight that would make this really annoying for him. Also in another versus thread in the same 30% key, someone was making an argument about Deku flying a kilometer into the air. Just wanted to mention that.
However, we need to have clear multipliers to scale this. Otherwise it's just far higherThats why I explained how Deku was already beaten up compared to an adapted shiggy with reactive evolution durability. His gear shift even ran out before that so it was just fa jin itself doing it.
Okay, having this ability makes sense. I thought it was done in 1 hit. If it's a hail of punches, then what's stopping Kaneki from defending and dodging it?Honestly, I don't see why it wouldn't apply to 30%. It's not even a special ability and doesn't even have a named smash. He just spammed punches, a barrage.
The force field will allow him to take less damage, and the clones will somehow take Deku's time for Kaneki to do something. They have a similar AP and can act consciously.Honestly I don't not how much of an advantage it is due to danger sense.
Quirks don't upgrade equipment, so it makes sense. Deku, in turn, is able to block all stabbing attacks with gloves.Funny thing is, none of the quirks boosts the durability of his gauntlets or shoes. It just naturally had multi continental durability lol.
The question is whether he did it without a break for sleep and food. If he literally fought for a couple of months without a minute to break, then this is monstrous endurance. If he rested between battles, it indicates his accelerated recovery.Also this is his exact stamina justification so it is not a recuperation feat
Stamina: Superhuman (His incredible stamina has only grown as he continued his training to complete One For All. After the events that took place in the All-Out War, he has proven to be capable of defeating villains and traveling all throughout the country for several weeks, if not months,[72] without having rested and while keeping One For All on at all times, showing levels of stamina comparable to All Might during his prime. Even while extremely exhausted, he could still drive back the combined effort of Class 1-A,[9] and refused to take a break until he spoke to All Might.[73] His immense pain tolerance has grown even further, to a point that even breaking his bones many times over hardly hinders his physical abilities.[11] He has also been able to resist the pain of bullet wounds for about a month.[72] Can survive an extended battle against Shigaraki while having trouble breathing, forcing his body to move far beyond his limits, and crippled with agonizing pain all over[34])
He's not perfect. He has mismatched. He just never lost fair and square.At least I understand why this asshole has such a long winning streak
Nothing but a reactive evolution that will start after 1 serious hit that Kaneki gets?Yeah but nothing is stopping Deku from blitz amping to literally attack him faster than what he can react.
He has his own RE + Danger Sense.Nothing but a reactive evolution that will start after 1 serious hit that Kaneki gets?
Sorry, but I don't see this in the profile. By the way, Soul Map also belongs to the Final Arc.Kaneki eliminates Danger Sense with the help of RE, heightened senses and increased combat analysis. Yes, Deku has stat boosters, but Kaneki's regeneration allows him to survive this, and RE allows him to instantly become stronger enough to instantly destroy the opponent who was suppressing Kaneki a moment earlier.He has his own RE + Danger Sense.
That’s why context is considered. Context allows us to know that fa Jin is a blitz amp even without a stated multiplier. Also allows us to know Kaneki’s AD without it simply just being far either.However, we need to have clear multipliers to scale this. Otherwise it's just far higher
Okay, having this ability makes sense. I thought it was done in 1 hit. If it's a hail of punches, then what's stopping Kaneki from defending and dodging it?
The force field will allow him to take less damage, and the clones will somehow take Deku's time for Kaneki to do something. They have a similar AP and can act consciously.
The question is whether he did it without a break for sleep and food. If he literally fought for a couple of months without a minute to break, then this is monstrous endurance. If he rested between battles, it indicates his accelerated recovery.
However, it looks like spiritual damage could make this match a stomp.
Unless Deku stays in close combat for too long, because Kaneki's RE allows him to rip and slice through opponents who were superior to him moments earlier.
Deku fights either way. He is a genuis combatant and isn’t stupid. I mean read his BIQ justification. He isn’t going to fight close combat if it’s dangerous. He has fought a guy who has an instant death one touch hax and can spread long ranges like twice now.Honestly, I haven't followed MHA much. If close combat or combat at a distance of tens of meters is standard for Deku, then this may work against him.
Sorry, but I don't see this in the profile. By the way, Soul Map also belongs to the Final Arc.Kaneki
I did say he has this only because the OFA vestiges told him it’s always been an application of the transferring process of OFA and not because he trained for it/unlocked. Would love to hear people decide whether or not the OFA vestiges would just tell Deku the exact same thing here. Also pretty sure he’s referring to how wounded heros becomes stronger and how quirk users that are near death becomes stronger. I’m not sure why this isn’t in his profile. He also has a plus ultra boost that was accepted in a crt but his profile also doesn’t have it for some reasonlf it didn’t then this would be a stomp match and can’t be added anyways due to the regeneration. Unless Deku’s able to use soul manipulation here. He is capable of transferring OFA into his victims and damage their soul. The thing is, his soul manipulation is only in his final war arc key even though the scans for his soul manipulation is using previous arcs as well. He also found out about being capable of damaging his victims souls via transferring OFA from the OFA vestiges. Due to this, I don’t see why the OFA vestiges couldn’t just tell Deku the same thing here and transfer OFA to Kaneki. But I’ll just leave this up to everyone here to decide if this is applicable or not here.
In the fight against Sukuna, you pointed out that Fa Jin in this vein has a power of 10+ megatons. This will not be enough for a one-shot in any case. However, taking several such blows at high speed will make him stronger and even out his statistics.That’s why context is considered. Context allows us to know that fa Jin is a blitz amp even without a stated multiplier. Also allows us to know Kaneki’s AD without it simply just being far either.
This will at least allow him to avoid several serious blows and avoid blitzI mentioned the hail of barrages because of the barrier. Why would he use a force field if he’s just gonna dodge it. Even then, it just allows Deku to charge up Fa Jin even more then just blitz him.
This doesn't really make sense. I'll explain it as simply as possible. The shockwave and Deku scale with each other in speed. The blow will reach Kaneki much faster if it's close combat than from kilometers away. At that distance, it will be very easy to dodge. This only works if Deku decides to have an endurance fight and fights like that for a whole day.This leads back to the first thingy. What happens if Deku just flies up a kilometers into the air and snipe or something. Some dude brought this up in another versus thread where I was arguing against Deku and I have zero idea how to counter it.
Damn, this dude is successfully clearing the Demon Slayer verseHis stamina justification just says he did this non stop while having OFA activated 24/7. The manga also never said he took breaks and actively shows him refusing to take a break while the vestiges begs him to do so. They even had an entire meeting on how to get Deku to stop. Hell, he’s still actively walking around with bullet wounds when the fight happened like months ago. A stamina battle will always end in favor of Deku here.
Doesn't this apply to the Final Ark key?Soul damage is a last resort
Yeah, his gear will definitely be a problem.Deku can fight long range and can defend against stronger attacks due to the multi continental durability gauntlets/shoes
Deku will first have to face Kaneki to figure out how to fight himDeku fights either way. He is a genuis combatant and isn’t stupid. I mean read his BIQ justification. He isn’t going to fight close combat if it’s dangerous. He has fought a guy who has an instant death one touch hax and can spread long ranges like twice now.
I guess they don't have any information about who ghouls areThe vestiges can also help him in a fight by giving advices and such on what to do. They even reminded him about how Shigaraki had the search quirk.
Speed is equalizedHigh Hypersonic with 30%
Massively Hypersonic+
Deku winning usin fa jin to speed blitz and "one shot" is invalid, Kaneki stomps
Yes, and the rule is that the slower character can't speed blitz the faster character in a equalized speed fight and win solely because he is speed blitzingSpeed is equalized
Oh, I didn't know about thatYes, and the rule is that the slower character can't speed blitz the faster character in a equalized speed fight and win solely because he is speed blitzing
So, Deku can't speed blitz using fa jin, if he can't do that Kaneki simply stomps
I'm a little confused about the rules. Is the match simply invalid or do Deku's speed multipliers not work?Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.
As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
Speed amps are allowed unless the slower character can amp and blitz.I'm a little confused about the rules. Is the match simply invalid or do Deku's speed multipliers not work?
I swear Deku was relativistic+ when i checked the profilesCompletely forgot Deku was the slower one here LMAO