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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

The statements pretty blatant about movement speed. Speed of combat might be debatable I guess… But considering Prime All Might’s speed is incredibly hyped up and Horikoshi flat out states his best speed is Mach 10… I mean that’s pretty damning

See and this is why in my lore, I just straight up say people move faster than light and have them flat out obliterate stars
I see myself in this post and I don't like it.

(I plan for most of my "verse" to be pretty low level. A mix of Invincible and Watchmen as far as power dynamics are concerned.)
 
Love how the Mach 10 doomposting took up 4 pages in this thread with barely or no mentions about how AFO’s real name was revealed, Shigaraki’s Original quirk got revealed, new information on Deku’s suit, etc.

Well, none of those things have a bearing on powerscaling and this is VS Battles wiki after all.

But yeah, all of that is cool info.
 
Wait what? I only saw the Shiggy Quirk thing.
Zen Shigaraki, Toshitsugu Kudou, Bruce Lee. Deku’s suit mimics the OFA quirks and is the number 4 hero. America’s No.1 hero is Agate Minou with a quirk called Fault Line. Kota lied to Hori about his age.

Can we add the title “One For All Hero” from the one shot to Deku’s profile here “Name: Izuku Midoriya, "Deku" (Hero Name)”
 
Zen Shigaraki, Toshitsugu Kudou, Bruce Lee. Deku’s suit mimics the OFA quirks and is the number 4 hero. America’s No.1 hero is Agate Minou with a quirk called Fault Line. Kota lied to Hori about his age.

Can we add the title “One For All Hero” from the one shot to Deku’s profile here “Name: Izuku Midoriya, "Deku" (Hero Name)”
Huh, neat. Does it match him with his Quirk or is it inferior?
 
Huh, neat. Does it match him with his Quirk or is it inferior?
I mean there’s this

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I mean there’s this

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I mean that doesn't really tell me much aside from at best being probably on Bakugo and Shoto's level. Actually wait a minute- If it mimics his Quirks then how the **** does it do that with stuff like Gearshift and Danger Sense? That seems like a stretch to even replicate with the advanced tech in MHA.
 
I mean that doesn't really tell me much aside from at best being probably on Bakugo and Shoto's level. Actually wait a minute- If it mimics his Quirks then how the **** does it do that with stuff like Gearshift and Danger Sense? That seems like a stretch to even replicate with the advanced tech in MHA.
We don’t know how it fairs to the original quirks.


I remember rusty making this theory. I wonder if this is the same case here

Theory time: I believe Izuku's new suit is meant to mimic OFA and his old Quirks, obviously it makes him stronger all around.
But the gauntlets can likely shoot out blast of air like Air Force. And considering All Might had it, l'm certain he has something to imitate Blackwhip as well. He still has his Iron Soles as well, but maybe there could be some mechanism that builds up tension from certain movements and can release it all at once kind of like Fa Jin?
There could be some kind of sensor or scanner that could keep track of people, likely as some way of imitating Danger Sense? Maybe it's built into his mask?
A Smokescreen generator would be easy. It looks like he's wearing a jetpack as well for Float, and maybe he has some extra thrusters for enhanced speed for Gearshift.
I really hope we either get more information about this suit or better yet see it in action in like a movie or something.”
 
Zen Shigaraki, Toshitsugu Kudou, Bruce Lee. Deku’s suit mimics the OFA quirks and is the number 4 hero. America’s No.1 hero is Agate Minou with a quirk called Fault Line. Kota lied to Hori about his age.

Can we add the title “One For All Hero” from the one shot to Deku’s profile here “Name: Izuku Midoriya, "Deku" (Hero Name)”
Did you say BRUCE LEE???
 
Yeah in terms of running speed, most One Piece characters are pretty damn slow compared to other series.
You literally have Doffy have to use a web to move from island to island when All Might could literally jump from island to island

On face value without any power scaling All Might would curbstomp the fk out of Doffy and most of OP except the top tiers
 
Marugori strikes with a force of one hundred tons. Kim Dusik's deadlift is one hundred tons. Luffy gets knocked down at speeds of up to 200 km/h. Garowe knocks down Platinum at the speed of sound. Vegeta does not lift a thousand tons. I think it's clear that this list can go on for a long time. Why is there so much hype? Just another statement in the piggy bank in the style of <<A statement that contradicts the main achievements of the universe, expressed clearly thoughtlessly, is always ignored in principle if the statement clearly contradicts what the author himself writes directly in the story. The logic of "the author said it" doesn't work because the author also drew, wrote, and eventually compiled it into a manga.
 
You literally have Doffy have to use a web to move from island to island when All Might could literally jump from island to island

On face value without any power scaling All Might would curbstomp the fk out of Doffy and most of OP except the top tiers
Sort of true, but when it comes to travel speed in OP, it's not all linear like that. Enel has lightning speed travel speed cause of his devil fruit, but he's way weaker than Doffy for example. So in OP, you can have way weaker characters have better travel speeds than higher tiers (mostly thanks to different abilities).
 
Is it possible to find out how much slower all might has gotten from his prime using the Mach 10 travel speed and use it as an upscale since weakened all might actually has a stated travel speed too.
 
Is it possible to find out how much slower all might has gotten from his prime using the Mach 10 travel speed and use it as an upscale since weakened all might actually has a stated travel speed too.
I’ll give it a go:
KE formula: E=1/2m*v^2
All might original mass = 274 kg
AM original KE = (1/2*274)*(3430^2) = 1611791300 J
V^2=E/(1/2m)
V=square root(2KE/m)
New mass = 255kg
1611791300/60 =26863188.3
V=square root(2*26863188.3/255)= 459.011626 m/s or Mach 1.33822631 (Supersonic)
Granted, I don’t think that’s how we calculate speeds here.
 
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I’ll give it a go:
KE formula: E=1/2m*v^2
All might original mass = 274 kg
AM original KE = (1/2*274)*(3430^2) = 1611791300 J
V^2=E/(1/2m)
V=square root(2KE/m)
New mass = 255kg
1611791300/60 =26863188.3
V=square root(2*26863188.3/255)= 459.011626 m/s or Mach 1.33822631 (Supersonic)
Granted, I don’t think that’s how we calculate speeds here.
I meant how back in season 3 it took all might 30 seconds to travel 5 kilometers and AFO saying he got slower. Can this be used to find out how much he got slower from Mach 10 travel speed.
 
I’ll give it a go:
KE formula: E=1/2m*v^2
All might original mass = 274 kg
AM original KE = (1/2*274)*(3430^2) = 1611791300 J
V^2=E/(1/2m)
V=square root(2KE/m)
New mass = 255kg
1611791300/60 =26863188.3
V=square root(2*26863188.3/255)= 459.011626 m/s or Mach 1.33822631 (Supersonic)
Granted, I don’t think that’s how we calculate speeds here.
Yeah nah we don't find speed going through reverse KE on wiki, not allowed
 
All Might didn't take 30 seconds to travel there. It's been 30 seconds since he sent the Nomu.

All Might didn't instantly run to AFO's location, he talked to Gran Torino, fought some Nomu, and spoke to Endeavor before leaving.

We don't know how long it took All Might to travel that distance. You can make something up, but that's all it is, just making something up.
 
All Might didn't take 30 seconds to travel there. It's been 30 seconds since he sent the Nomu.

All Might didn't instantly run to AFO's location, he talked to Gran Torino, fought some Nomu, and spoke to Endeavor before leaving.

We don't know how long it took All Might to travel that distance. You can make something up, but that's all it is, just making something up.
It was 30 seconds to do all that then travel 5km right?

So AT LEAST subsonic travel speed (166 m/s or 5km/30 secs) but likely far higher
 
Let's repeat this again so there is no "duplicity" in the discussion

Marugori hits with a force of 100 tons (OPM)

The dog hits Garou (and leaves afterimages) at 250 kilometers per hour (OPM)

Garou hits Platinum at subsonic speed (OPM)

Luffy gets knocked down, is surprised and does not reach 200 kilometers per hour (One Piece)

Kim Dusik pulls 100 tons (GOH)

Raiden does not reach Mach 2 as stated (Metal Gear)

Goku ran 1 million kilometers in 28 hours (Mach 30) (Dragon Ball)

Sasuke could not run 10 meters in 10 seconds before the Portal closed (Naruto)

Josuke can hit at 300 kilometers per hour (JoJo)

Dante got shot in the forehead (part 3) (devil may cry)

Adam Smasher couldn't catch up to the car (Cyberpunk)

Kendy's lightning is stated to be slower than actual lightning, but Zaraki doesn't react to it (Bleach novel)

Additional: Hisagi can't catch up to a helicopter (Novel)

Kengan (Stated that bullet speed can't be achieved)

Star Wars (Jedi kill Mandalorians with guns)

Not to mention Marvel and DC, where a separate thread could be created

Many popular universes have statements or feats that contradict many consistent feats from the source material. Regardless of why the author stated Mach 10 specifically, it contradicts the prequel feats, Nagant bullets, Deku, and many other points. An exception that should be ignored.

(Actually, these low-quality "Mach 10s" aren't that bad compared to Mach 3 from Jujutsu Kaisen or 100 Tons of Punches from Makugori from One-Punch Man.)
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Let's repeat this again so there is no "duplicity" in the discussion

Marugori hits with a force of 100 tons (OPM)

The dog hits Garou (and leaves afterimages) at 250 kilometers per hour (OPM)

Garou hits Platinum at subsonic speed (OPM)

Luffy gets knocked down, is surprised and does not reach 200 kilometers per hour (One Piece)

Kim Dusik pulls 100 tons (GOH)

Raiden does not reach Mach 2 as stated (Metal Gear)

Goku ran 1 million kilometers in 28 hours (Mach 30) (Dragon Ball)

Sasuke could not run 10 meters in 10 seconds before the Portal closed (Naruto)

Josuke can hit at 300 kilometers per hour (JoJo)

Dante got shot in the forehead (part 3) (devil may cry)

Adam Smasher couldn't catch up to the car (Cyberpunk)

Kendy's lightning is stated to be slower than actual lightning, but Zaraki doesn't react to it (Bleach novel)

Additional: Hisagi can't catch up to a helicopter (Novel)

Kengan (Stated that bullet speed can't be achieved)

Star Wars (Jedi kill Mandalorians with guns)

Not to mention Marvel and DC, where a separate thread could be created

Many popular universes have statements or feats that contradict many consistent feats from the source material. Regardless of why the author stated Mach 10 specifically, it contradicts the prequel feats, Nagant bullets, Deku, and many other points. An exception that should be ignored.

(Actually, these low-quality "Mach 10s" aren't that bad compared to Mach 3 from Jujutsu Kaisen or 100 Tons of Punches from Makugori from One-Punch Man.)
1584kpapdsI.jpg

Holy Moly... The dude started with all his cards.
 
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