Nyan vs Traveler! R1M5 of a 7-A tournament!

[DaReaperMan]

With only one DQ in My tournament, we're on Match 5, where this is going to be a bloodbath because this is OPM Vs Genshin Impact.

Speed Equal

Both are 7-A

Traveler's in their Izanuma key and has their 6-B amp restricted.

SBA otherwise.

Nyan: 0

The Traveler: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah, The Traveler takes this pretty easily.
Intelligence wise, he's rated as a likely Genius due to him being able to fight Childe back in Liyue.
Not only that, he has more abilities compared to his opponent and he could use advantage of the elements at the same time given he has utilized it in his fight against Childe.

 

[Kachon123]

What does Traveler start with?

 

[Kachon123]

Not only that, he has more abilities compared to his opponent and he could use advantage of the elements at the same time given he has utilized it in his fight against Childe.

The elemental abilities on his page seem very limited.

Ranged Electro attacks like Lightning Shuriken and Bellowing Thunder are easily avoidable as Nyan would easily slip by them as he was able to do the same to Drive Knight's repeated missile fire.

Geo attacks like Starfell Sword, which is just him slamming a boulder from the sky wouldn't do anything but serve as a blindspot for traveler, as Nyan has shown the ability to slip into boulders and rocks. If Traveler uses this move, Nyan would slip inside of it and the surprise traveller by jumping out and slashing him in the chest. The shockwave from Wake of Earth gets countered by the superior AP of Nyan's Feline Retribution ranged slashes (which he can spam).

Anemo's air-based attacks would be useless here as well. Gust Surge is just a much smaller and weaker version of an attack that Nyan easily survived via slipping through the cracks.


What is Traveler's response to Nyan's Feline Retribution attack, which is a speed amp allowing him to greatly outspeed Drive Knight who in a slower form could consistently tag him.

The location via SBA is at Central Park, meaning all the buildings around them would allow Nyan to us them as places to hide inside and use his speed to spam Feline Retribution from any angle.

Nyan can also dura-neg Traveler by entering inside his ears or mouth in order to cut him from the inside out.

 

[DaReaperMan]

And before anyone asks how Nyan loses to Thrall with any reliability, a combination of a skill disadvantage, and Thrall's versatility+AoE make him lose.

 

[Voidnether]

The elemental abilities on his page seem very limited.

Ranged Electro attacks like Lightning Shuriken and Bellowing Thunder are easily avoidable as Nyan would easily slip by them as he was able to do the same to Drive Knight's repeated missile fire.

Geo attacks like Starfell Sword, which is just him slamming a boulder from the sky wouldn't do anything but serve as a blindspot for traveler, as Nyan has shown the ability to slip into boulders and rocks. If Traveler uses this move, Nyan would slip inside of it and the surprise traveller by jumping out and slashing him in the chest. The shockwave from Wake of Earth gets countered by the superior AP of Nyan's Feline Retribution ranged slashes (which he can spam).

Anemo's air-based attacks would be useless here as well. Gust Surge is just a much smaller and weaker version of an attack that Nyan easily survived via slipping through the cracks.


What is Traveler's response to Nyan's Feline Retribution attack, which is a speed amp allowing him to greatly outspeed Drive Knight who in a slower form could consistently tag him.

The location via SBA is at Central Park, meaning all the buildings around them would allow Nyan to us them as places to hide inside and use his speed to spam Feline Retribution from any angle.

Nyan can also dura-neg Traveler by entering inside his ears or mouth in order to cut him from the inside out.

I mean, even when the Traveler is able to combine his elements like this?

That's easily avoidable considering he could turn into elements (Elemental Intangibility) on his fundamental mechanism page as it is something that could be done with every vision holders (Allogenes), I'm pretty much unsure about the ley line manipulation one but what could Nyan do against that though?

 

[DaReaperMan]

And remember with Traveler vs Thrall that relatively comparable or inferior skill combined with an inability to tag Thrall with anything except Melee while Thrall is hardly restricted in that only being unable to beat Traveler over the head with Air Manip(maybe), which is like... only a few of his possible attacks.

Basically, unless Traveler mutates into being some haxlord, they can't be DQ'd.

 

[Voidnether]

And remember with Traveler vs Thrall that relatively comparable or inferior skill combined with an inability to tag Thrall with anything except Melee while Thrall is hardly restricted in that only being unable to beat Traveler over the head with Air Manip(maybe), which is like... only a few of his possible attacks.

Basically, unless Traveler mutates into being some haxlord, they can't be DQ'd.

Ngl youd be surprised what's inside ley line manipulation

 

[Hypertornado099]

Ngl youd be surprised what's inside ley line manipulation

What does Traveler do with ley line manipulation?

 

[Voidnether]

What does Traveler do with ley line manipulation?

Haxlords stuff

 

[Hypertornado099]

Nyan FRA

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ngl youd be surprised what's inside ley line manipulation

I meant that ACTUALLY had use. Leyline shit doesn't for combat, generally.

 

[Naito-desu]

Was this posted to the Genshin thread or smth lol, I didn't expect there to be a debate already

 

[Kachon123]

I mean, even when the Traveler is able to combine his elements like this?

Yup. Nyan was able to avoid a flesh and bone rendering wind tornado as well as the spears made out of rubble at the same time.

That's easily avoidable considering he could turn into elements (Elemental Intangibility) on his fundamental mechanism page as it is something that could be done with every vision holders (Allogenes), I'm pretty much unsure about the ley line manipulation one but what could Nyan do against that though?

Turning to elements wouldn't be the most helpful. Turning into rocks would just make it easier for Nyan to enter inside of Traveler for dura neg without resistance. Turning into electricity or wind is a little more complicated, but as I mentioned before Nyan has willing jumped into tornado attacks and avoided injury.

 

[Hypertornado099]

I mean, even when the Traveler is able to combine his elements like this?

This is good, but it takes a moment to fly out of the ground, so Nyan may be able to dodge it

 

[Kachon123]

This is good, but it takes a moment to fly out of the ground, so Nyan may be able to dodge it

Or just slip into the fragments

 

[Epiccheev]

What's the AP difference, btw?

 

[Kachon123]

What's the AP difference, btw?

The Traveler: 296.01 Megatons
Nyan: 315.11611 Megatons

 

[Hypertornado099]

The Traveler: 296.01 Megatons
Nyan: 315.11611 Megatons

Nyan is casually overpowering 315 megatons, so he should be much stronger than Traveler

 

[PedjaTarzan]

The Traveler: 296.01 Megatons
Nyan: 315.11611 Megatons

Traveler scales to this from genshins page
Whoever wrote 296 megatons must have confused it with old 7-C calc used which had 7-A end which wasnt accepted

Knight of Favonious Tier / Adeptus Tier: Characters the level of an Adeptus such as Ganyu and the Liyue Traveler, which scale to Shenhe freezing a Tsunami. 7-A (454 Megatons of TNT).

 

[Hypertornado099]

Traveler scales to this from genshins page
Whoever wrote 296 megatons must have confused it with old 7-C calc used which had 7-A end which wasnt accepted

You should edit that onto the page so people won't be confused

 

[Kachon123]

Mmmm I'm still inclined to say that Nyan has the superior AP between the two of them.

Casually one-shotting someone with a weaker variant of this attack. Both of which are inferior to his attacks when serious where he can also layer 10 individual slashes at a time. These are still just his standard attacks when he's serious since he has the "intense" variants.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Mmmm I'm still inclined to say that Nyan has the superior AP between the two of them.

Casually one-shotting someone with a weaker variant of this attack. Both of which are inferior to his attacks when serious where he can also layer 10 individual slashes at a time. These are still just his standard attacks when he's serious since he has the "intense" variants.

Are those 10 slashes projectiles?

How does Traveler scale to 454 megatons? Is it through casual attacks?

 

[Kachon123]

Are those 10 slashes projectiles?

Yup

 

[Shey]

How does Traveler scale to 454 megatons? Is it through casual attacks?

Genshin player here, not sure, maybe @Woomica or @Giannysmag have ideas but what ik for a fact said Feat was not casual and was very stamina draining for Shenhe, and the Traveler doesn't really have a way to scale directly to this with casual attacks, I'm not even sure for stronger elemental ones

 

[Cimafranca133]

How does Traveler scale to 454 megatons? Is it through casual attacks?

I'm pretty sure Genshin was supposed to get revised so that mid tiers like Traveler no long scale to Shenhe's feat. Unfortunately, Genshin scalers are lazy lmao

 

[Kachon123]

I'm pretty sure Genshin was supposed to get revised so that mid tiers like Traveler no long scale to Shenhe's feat. Unfortunately, Genshin scalers are lazy lmao

Where would they scale otherwise?

 

[AthelChan]

I'm pretty sure Genshin was supposed to get revised so that mid tiers like Traveler no long scale to Shenhe's feat. Unfortunately, Genshin scalers are lazy lmao

pay them 10 primogems, they'll work on it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

pay them 10 primogems, they'll work on it.

Pay them in gacha rolls

 

[AthelChan]

Pay them in gacha rolls

that's one roll iirc.

 

[Epiccheev]

Too generous

 

[AthelChan]

Too generous

5 primos and 1000 mora

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Pay them in gacha rolls

Give me playable Capitano and ill revise the fck oufta verse

 

[Kachon123]

Any Genshin supporters?

 

[OmniScalator]

Genshin player here, not sure, maybe @Woomica or @Giannysmag have ideas but what ik for a fact said Feat was not casual and was very stamina draining for Shenhe, and the Traveler doesn't really have a way to scale directly to this with casual attacks, I'm not even sure for stronger elemental ones

Well it was certainly draining but was within her limits and viable enough to the point that she went after the god who unleashed that tsunami just after that


Edit:
Feat video

 

[Kachon123]

Does Traveler have any way to put Nyan down? Or to avoid getting torn to shreds?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

that's one roll iirc.

It's 1/16th of a roll

 

[AthelChan]

It's 1/16th of a roll

that should be a great reward.

 

[AthelChan]

Put me into Incon because the match can go both ways until someone made a very convincing argument for each combatants.

 

[Kachon123]

Put me into Incon because the match can go both ways until someone made a very convincing argument for each combatants.

The elemental abilities on his page seem very limited.

Ranged Electro attacks like Lightning Shuriken and Bellowing Thunder are easily avoidable as Nyan would easily slip by them as he was able to do the same to Drive Knight's repeated missile fire.

Geo attacks like Starfell Sword, which is just him slamming a boulder from the sky wouldn't do anything but serve as a blindspot for traveler, as Nyan has shown the ability to slip into boulders and rocks. If Traveler uses this move, Nyan would slip inside of it and the surprise traveller by jumping out and slashing him in the chest. The shockwave from Wake of Earth gets countered by the superior AP of Nyan's Feline Retribution ranged slashes (which he can spam).

Anemo's air-based attacks would be useless here as well. Gust Surge is just a much smaller and weaker version of an attack that Nyan easily survived via slipping through the cracks.


What is Traveler's response to Nyan's Feline Retribution attack, which is a speed amp allowing him to greatly outspeed Drive Knight who in a slower form could consistently tag him.

The location via SBA is at Central Park, meaning all the buildings around them would allow Nyan to us them as places to hide inside and use his speed to spam Feline Retribution from any angle.

Nyan can also dura-neg Traveler by entering inside his ears or mouth in order to cut him from the inside out.