Well, because either people wanna retain the stigma of Sonic being a punching bag or they don't like him at a high level of power. Whether it's copium about the TailsTube multiverse episode, or 50 Shades of copium about the "infinite worlds" statement from CrossWorlds. Still, everybody is entitled to their takes... bad as some may be.
The ruby plot and how confusing the scaling gets considering the amount of canon material we have that seems to clash with each other in some shape or form. Or I might just be too dumb to understand it, who knows.
not to offend but you are confused.
I agree, it’s annoying how stuff like Infinite fighting super Shadow needs to be asterisked as “only the weakest variant of Super Shadow” every time.
unless the thing is getting contradicted by simple logic
Agreed no need to appease or argue with those with similar logic to flat earth believers, anti-vaxxers and so on. No point debating against those that be first to tuck tail and run when confronted with Sonic fans/success IRL (seen it so many times) while they spread toxicity online or in their echo chamber "community".
Ah yes, the character with more intellect than most of our greatest geniuses in history combined is an unreliable source of information.
Isn't that so coincidental? Hmmm...
Thank you JP 06, you could not have debunked this any harder
Those "people" are just Death Battle fans, aka nerds who refuse to accept the truth.
There's no circular scaling. Infinite just got stronger. Wild how some people will refuse the easiest explanations because they personally just can't believe it.
I understand the sentiment, and I wouldn't say it's cuz you're dumb. I do think there are things that conflict when taken at face value, though I think less than some people say.
Yep absolutely right, like 6-D Sonic is a bit too much for me rn but he’s definitely at least high Multiversal bare minimum.
Problem is it’s just inconsistent with every other Ruby clone, which is at most equal to the original, and Infinite getting a boost from the true Ruby isn’t stated in the story.
It doesn’t need to be stated if it can logically be inferred.
Considering that even a clone of Perfect Chaos couldn’t measure up to Super Sonic at all or the original, despite coming from the strongest phantom Ruby in feats to date, I think it does need to be stated.
Because Perfect Chaos didn't get stronger from Adventure (Because it's a being from Chaos rage back then)? It's a completely different scenario.
Modern Low End super forms stomp base forms (Super Neo in IDW).
i think Super Neo was a high end and not a low End
Chaos did get stronger, that's why Chaos 0 has a modern key. Perfect Chaos is the one who didn't because that form is attached to the past, not current Chaos.
It does?
In Gens, they went from only matching Modern Sonic in power, to being capable of insta-killing him in Otherworld Comedy, though. That story is post-Forces too.
IMO base Sonic is actually not as strong as Perfect Chaos, his weak spot is just base Sonic tier.
They weren't capable of insta-killing him, this exact argument was addressed in the thread trying to upgrade him to 1-C.
No, it was a “weaker” adventure Perfect Chaos.
No, the argument was that Perfect Chaos doesn't scale to Super Sonic nor that he was capable of one-shotting Sonic. I recommend re-reading that thread.
His weak point isn't even a weak point, it's just his brain, which he can surprisingly manipulate at will (like turning into water, including his brain).
By that logic, every boss is x amount of power but weakspot is only x power cuz they have to hit the weakspot. I don't buy this.
Perfect chaos’s brain just exploded into pieces when super sonic hit it, but it could tank a few hits from base Sonic, and outside of that base Sonic never directly overpowers PC (in the same vein he never directly overpowered Void but still fought against it)
honestly it probably resolves the issue with Dark Gaia as well, as is you can make a downscaling chain with Sonic being able to destroy semi-perfect DG’s eyes, but if the eyes were just infinitely weaker than everything else cuz it’s a video game it would make sense.
are we forgetting that Super Sonic plan was to heal the anger and negative emotions on Perfect Chaos?and also, that again does not prove that the weak point is infinitely weaker than the rest of themselves (which makes no sense anyway)
the problem with this is that it is never said that their eyes is infinitely more weak than their entire bodies, this is not like the saiyans with their tails, it is just never stated that this weakspots are infinitely weaker than the rest of them
Still doesn't make much sense and just seems like a more difficult route than just saying "He scales" and calling it a day. Seems a bit overanalytical.
It would make sense though, considering that Perfect Chaos’ power was so great Super Sonic required “the full power of the Chaos Emeralds”
and Sonic, in generations, restored the power of the emeralds (one) with his speed.
