Mirio Togata (Lemillion) Vs Toji Fushiguro (MHA Vs Jujutsu Kaisen) [8-8-2] GRACE

[LaserPrecision]

To be fair, Toji was a fair bit faster than those two (Dagon was getting blitzed by someone who's below Mach 1 and Geto isn't all that faster)

Toji's speed was a bit weird that arc tbh. Megumi could keep up with, and surprise him. Maybe had to do with him acting entirely instinctually rather than thinking things out as a result of Ogami's séance. That said, everyone seemed to be able to keep an eye on Toji, comment, and react to him. Including Dagon. Heck, Naobito had to jump in to push Dagon down so Toji could finish him off. You could prolly scale Toji off of Maki (prior to Heavenly Restriction who's also got decent skill feats. I listed them in an older thread I wish I could find.

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Toji FRA

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Toji FRA

Vote counted

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump

 

[GodEarh206]

Toji FRA

 

[Catbowtie]

Going to vote the number one fraud hero of all time. He SHOULD NOT be number one. I almost want to vote Toji instead of that bum. Actually yea, voting Toji for LaserPrecision’s and Duedate’s reasons.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Toji FRA

Going to vote the number one fraud hero of all time. He SHOULD NOT be number one. I almost want to vote Toji instead of that bum. Actually yea, voting Toji for LaserPrecision’s and Duedate’s reasons.

Vote counted. This did NOT end up being a stomp

 

[Bruhtelho]

after reading the thread, i'm leaning towards Lemillion FRA

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

after reading the thread, i'm leaning towards Lemillion FRA

vote counted

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump

 

[Raiden38]

For now i vote Toji for the reasons he gave @Duedate8898

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

For now i vote Toji for the reasons he gave @Duedate8898

Vote counted

 

[Voidnether]

I was reading this yesterday but I apparently forgot to vote, Toji's arguments sound more convincing to me, so yeah.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I was reading this yesterday but I apparently forgot to vote, Toji's arguments sound more convincing to me, so yeah.

Vote counted

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Doesn't the Flyhead have cursed energy? I thought that stuff passively mind hax ya? Am kinda leaning on Toji's side due to @Duedate8898, but I just wanna know if the Flyhead could possibly mind hax Mirio since that might help Toji in overcoming the large AP/Dura gap-and actually serve a useful purpose here.

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Mirio for the reasons @TheRustyOne stated

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Doesn't the Flyhead have cursed energy? I thought that stuff passively mind hax ya? Am kinda leaning on Toji's side due to @Duedate8898, but I just wanna know if the Flyhead could possibly mind hax Mirio since that might help Toji in overcoming the large AP/Dura gap-and actually serve a useful purpose here.

Mind hax isn't prominent against non sorcerers in series and wouldn't be prominent here either since they're too weak to damage Lemillion for it to happen in the first place considering they're below grade 4.

Mirio for the reasons @TheRustyOne stated

Vote counted

 

[SomaKing13]

Voting Toji FRA, he has just enough going for him in this fight that he could pull through in the end

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Voting Toji FRA, he has just enough going for him in this fight that he could pull through in the end

Vote Counted. Gonna vote Lemillion FRA and its grace incon

 

[SomaKing13]

hands up for a genuinely good and balanced fight i would kill to see this animated

 

[LaserPrecision]

I guess if the match-up is already coming to a conclusion, I'll cast a vote for Toji.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I'll put an FRA for Lemillion, since they're both at 7 it starts the countdown for inconclusive I think

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I'll put an FRA for Lemillion, since they're both at 7 it starts the countdown for inconclusive I think

I guess if the match-up is already coming to a conclusion, I'll cast a vote for Toji.

Vote counted. Incon grace started a while ago. This is one HELL of a battle. Its funny how for a fight this close threes only 2 pages.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'm gonna vote Incon FRA if I haven't voted already.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I'm gonna vote Incon FRA if I haven't voted already.

Vote for Anya counted

 

[Arkansalter2]

Incon FRA.

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Toji FRA

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Toji FRA

You already voted bro

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

You already voted bro

 

[Voidnether]

You already voted bro

He's lucky he doesn't have a thread moderator randomly lurking the thread and they be saying stuff like "Voting twice?" cause my life was over after that

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

He's lucky he doesn't have a thread moderator randomly lurking the thread and they be saying stuff like "Voting twice?" cause my life was over after that

I’d say voting twice is a vote deduction fr

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I’d say voting twice is a vote deduction fr

Has grace for equal votes passed? (I.E incon)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Has grace for equal votes passed? (I.E incon)

1 more day

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Grace over

 

[Muteki616]

(Which should be effective given it'll be thousands of invisible enemies surrounding and attacking him)

In this life-or-death situation, he wouldn't be able to perceive curses?

Invisible enemies attacking him (Even if they are unable to harm him) should be relatively distraction. Especially if they're constantly surrounding him and getting in his way (When he's not intangible).

They're so far below him.
He would plow through them like paper by accident.
They wouldn't hinder him in any regard.

Mirio as a hero is incentivized to hold back naturally. As established when fighting class 1-A, he wasn't out there accidentally breaking the bones of Mineta while only knocking Kirishima out even though these'd be differently tough individuals. It is very unlikely that Mirio will accidentally hurt Toji more than he intends.

Both are in character.
Mirio only held back a degree against Class 1-A because he had prior knowledge of who these people were.
A random homeless man trying to kill him wouldn't cause Mirio to hold back.
Hero or not.

 

[Muteki616]

ooou darn i missed grace.
ignore me then. (would've voted for Mirio his wincons are more sound and most likely.)

 

[LaserPrecision]

In this life-or-death situation, he wouldn't be able to perceive curses?

The curses aren't putting him in life-or-death situations. Toji is. So no, likely not. And even then, half the people in Shibuya couldn't see the Curses despite their life being in danger. Nor did the dude who got exploded from having his face sucked IIRC?

They're so far below him.
He would plow through them like paper by accident.
They wouldn't hinder him in any regard.

They're invulnerable. He wouldn't be able to harm them. Which is to say they are a hindrance more than massive threat. A hindrance which gives Toji more lenience. Having thousands of invincible flys floating around you would be pretty pestering methinks.

 

[Muteki616]

The curses aren't putting him in life-or-death situations. Toji is. So no, likely not.

The curses don't have to.
It's ANY life or death situation. Never stated to be specific to the curse.

And even then, half the people in Shibuya couldn't see the Curses despite their life being in danger.

This is a solid inconsistency with the logic GEGE placed.
Well, kinda because curtains are stated to reveal curses when placed.
There were 3 special curtains placed in Shibuya that didn't reveal any curses.
Most likely a condition put in place by Kenjaku.

Nor did the dude who got exploded from having his face sucked IIRC?

He didn't even have time to react lol.

They're invulnerable. He wouldn't be able to harm them. Which is to say they are a hindrance more than massive threat. A hindrance which gives Toji more lenience. Having thousands of invincible flys floating around you would be pretty pestering methinks.

Plow as in progress through force.
These grade 4 human-level curses aren't stopping a Multi City Block character in their tracks.
They wouldn't even be considered a nuisance bc they wouldn't be a hindrance.
The strength difference is far greater than the 6x difference between him and Toji.

 

[LaserPrecision]

This is a solid inconsistency with the logic GEGE placed.
Well, kinda because curtains are stated to reveal curses when placed.
There were 3 special curtains placed in Shibuya that didn't reveal any curses.
Most likely a condition put in place by Kenjaku.

It couldn't be a condition, otherwise no one would see the Curses. Yet most of them couldn't see Jogo or Hanami even after one dude pointed them out to everyone else.
I don't recall it being stated Curtains reveal them either, you may have to refresh my memory on that one.

He didn't even have time to react lol.

He had several seconds as Geto talked down to him before his head popped like a pimple IIRC.

Plow as in progress through force.
These grade 4 human-level curses aren't stopping a Multi City Block character in their tracks.
They wouldn't even be considered a nuisance bc they wouldn't be a hindrance.
The strength difference is far greater than the 6x difference between him and Toji.

Plow through or not, it's thousands of invisible enemies constantly following and surrounding you invulnerable to any damage you can inflict. Unironically, Toji could use the Curses as a cushion for damage the same way Yuji was saved by Todo's punch by a stray Curse. They're going to distract and confuse him.

He'll get momentarily distracted, and Toji will pop in and cut him clean in half. Even if he were to go intangible, it won't matter, as Soul Split Katana ignores the physical body to attack the soul anyways. And Mirio can't turn his soul intangible, so it just gets cut in half and he dies regardless.

 

[Muteki616]

It couldn't be a condition, otherwise no one would see the Curses.

This doesn't make sense.
Powerful barrier techniques can single out and meet certain conditions for certain people.
A barrier made by Kenjaku, who has the second-best barrier manipulation in the verse, could create virtually any condition.

But arguing this supposed inconsistency dwindles into head canon territory, which could go on all day.

I don't recall it being stated Curtains reveal them either,

Gojo states the curtain will hide Jujutsu and reveal the curse.

half the people in Shibuya couldn't see the Curses despite their life being in danger.

I guess its a case by case then because i do remember a moment where one civilian says "what are those 2 talking about?" then another interjects saying four.

He had several seconds as Geto talked down to him before his head popped like a pimple IIRC.

No it was near instant.

Plow through or not, it's thousands of invisible enemies constantly following and surrounding you invulnerable to any damage you can inflict.

It wasn't thousands, barely even looked like hundreds, and they all mindless floated around where Toji summoned them.
You said "Plow through or not" which doesn't make much sense, Mirio is again VASTLY stronger and physically superior compared
to flyheads.

It's like Ants vs Elephants they'll survive unexorcised but will be moved and ignored by Mirio's superior stats.

the same way Yuji was saved by Todo's punch by a stray Curse.

Physically not even a solid comparison because Mirio is 3x stronger than Aoi Todo and would have vastly superior results if this feat were to be replicated.

He'll get momentarily distracted,

With his analytic predictions, i doubt he'd get caught up by an obvious distraction tactic.
this is even less of a possibility if he can't see the curses in the first place.