Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

[Ebihara]

the character was in a couple matchups semi recently and was used in a tournament which is more then we can say about other worse profiles that we have kept around when brought up in this thread. Its not like its NFSW. I could easily pick out other worse profiles that are just as gross, atleast this one is used in matchups.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

They should add them in main abilities section, also the durability and speed sections lack calculations to justify their ratings to. With that it actually is kinda of weirdly disgusting Profile.

The durability is fine? It's just scaling from this calc. The speed is weird yea. Something being distasteful or disgusting isn't really grounds for deletion because AFAIK the content guidelines really only apply to pornography centric verses.

 

[azontr]

They should add them in main abilities section, also the durability and speed sections lack calculations to justify their ratings to. With that it actually is kinda of weirdly disgusting Profile.

The durability section scales to the AP of the poop hammer, which has a calc. The speed section lacking justifications isn't a grounds for deletion on its own when everything else is fine, the speed section just needs to be fixed to be more accurate.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

The durability section scales to the AP of the poop hammer, which has a calc. The speed section lacking justifications isn't a grounds for deletion on its own when everything else is fine, the speed section just needs to be fixed to be more accurate.

I initially thought it was a new profile, which is why I was insisting on deleting it. But anyway, I’ll leave the final decision to the rest of the mods. Kinda busy at the moment.

 

[Re5yh]

Low quality profile:

Lord British

Lord British is the King of Britannia and creator of the Eight Virtues. He is the Avatar's patron and provides him with assistance on his adventures. He is infamous for his inexplicable immortality, only able to be killed in the games by incredibly specific circumstances. He was originally from...

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[Arkansalter2]

Should we delete this verse? It seems pointlessly disgusting.

Fart Attack

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Disagree highly. There are no rules in the rules that state that John Fart is against the rules, even if it is pointlessly disgusting. It's not really explicit poop, but it's just game stuff.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Something being distasteful or disgusting isn't really grounds for deletion because AFAIK the content guidelines really only apply to pornography centric verses.

That's what I'm thinking. Theres far worse profiles and John Fart was used in threads and in a recent tournament (in which he just stonewalls).
Not to come off as rude or anything but if one genuinely find the verse distasteful or allat, then nothing is stopping them from just well.. not looking at it to be fair. John Fart isn't NSFW. It may be distasteful for some but that's just how it is.

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

Should we delete this verse? It seems pointlessly disgusting.

Fart Attack

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If you strike John Fartattack down.... he will come back stronger than ever..... be warned.....

Guesswork???? There's literally calcs and scans to back it up.

Profile was a little rushed because I have a couple of fans in a Discord server I was in that reaaalllly wanted the profile out. There's a calc blog I'm working on that'll remove the guesswork. That supersonic attack speed with Blowout is actually like ~hypersonic, several of the feats were around like 8-C or so.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Just checked the Acceptable Content Rating Scale and nowhere does it state that distasteful content is not allowed.
Roblox is for all ages. The actual Fart Attack game attracts little kids (because hehe poop fart stuffs). I don't see why it would be removed.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Never mind then I suppose.

Low quality profile:

Lord British

Lord British is the King of Britannia and creator of the Eight Virtues. He is the Avatar's patron and provides him with assistance on his adventures. He is infamous for his inexplicable immortality, only able to be killed in the games by incredibly specific circumstances. He was originally from...

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Also, I handled this earlier.

 

[First_Witch]

Low quality profile

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Why does this verse still have a page, all their characters and pages are deleted off the site for being too obviously similar to Minecraft

 

[BreezeHM]

Composite Slender Man

The Slender Man is a legendary figure born from the collaborative horror mythos of the internet, originating with Eric Knudsen’s 2009 Something Awful forum post and expanding into a meta-narrative universe. Across the Creepypasta Mythos, Slender ARGs like TribeTwelve and EverymanHYBRID, video...

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Guesswork statistics and above Low 1-A without a CRT.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Why does this verse still have a page, all their characters and pages are deleted off the site for being too obviously similar to Minecraft

Nuked

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

This should've been a blog.

Contains a sped up gif to make it look impressive, has a grand total of one feat, and most of the page is the feat being calced.

Also the person who grabbed it from someone else's blog and posted it as a page is now banned.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

This should as well be a blog, as it pertains to how the franchise's media came out in the real world, rather than an explanation of anything in-universe, much less anything related to VS.

 

[HorrorHistory]

This profile is unnecessary and should be removed.

Fox (Friday The 13th)

Fox was one of the three secondary villains of the 1982 slasher film Friday the 13th Part III and a member of a biker gang. She is the 12th victim of Jason Voorhees. Tier: 10-A, 9-C via Weapons Name: Fox (Full Name Undisclosed) Origin: Friday The 13th Gender: Female Age: Unknown, Adult...

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This is a minor character who just gets killed in the movie.

 

[Antvasima]

This should as well be a blog, as it pertains to how the franchise's media came out in the real world, rather than an explanation of anything in-universe, much less anything related to VS.

Agreed.

@IdiosyncraticLawyer

Are you willing to handle it please?

 

[Antvasima]

This profile is unnecessary and should be removed.

Fox (Friday The 13th)

Fox was one of the three secondary villains of the 1982 slasher film Friday the 13th Part III and a member of a biker gang. She is the 12th victim of Jason Voorhees. Tier: 10-A, 9-C via Weapons Name: Fox (Full Name Undisclosed) Origin: Friday The 13th Gender: Female Age: Unknown, Adult...

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This is a minor character who just gets killed in the movie.

I handled it.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Agreed.

@IdiosyncraticLawyer

Are you willing to handle it please?

Done for both.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Everything in this page is guesswork statistics. I think it should be deleted.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Everything in this page is guesswork statistics. I think it should be deleted.

The stats seem reasonable though?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Everything in this page is guesswork statistics. I think it should be deleted.

These are perfectly reasonable stats. The survivor team doesn't seem to have any feats that would surpass street level either (In the form of falling feats that is)

 

[Ebihara]

Armored Core

For detailed information about this series, visit the Armored Core Wiki. Armored Core (アーマード・コア Āmādo Koa) is an mecha-action role-playing video game series developed by FromSoftware and published by Namco Bandai Games for PlayStation, Xbox, and Microsoft Windows. Throughout the series, the...

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Not sure if this should be here or all purpose requests but this seems fitting.

there isnt a single profile for the verse, there are calcs but it seems there hasnt been any work done on the verse in a long time and seems abandoned. Not sure if it really should have a verse page if it has no profiles at all from what I can tell unless they just straight up arent tagged but I looked.

 

[The_Impress]

I've just found out we have a profile for the alternative version of Doctor Octopus from the Reign continuity. He only appears in two issues, has very little material at his disposal to list infos about him and overall doesn't match our Marvel policies for amount of appearances and relevancy for alternate versions of the characters.

Year late to this, but our appearance rules don't apply to isolated continuity the same way.

Alternative canon/non-canonical character profile pages for Marvel and DC Comics can only be created if the version in question was prominently featured in their own runs, and scale to their own feats instead of being presumed to scale to their main canon counterparts.

Dr. Octopus LITERALLY IS THE FEATURED AS THE MAIN SUPPORT CHARACTER in the first volume, he's in HALF OF THE ENTIRE VERSE by those two appearances

So no, revive this page, it got deleted through a misunderstanding.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that both sets of rules logically apply to non-canon characters.

 

[The_Impress]

I think that both sets of rules logically apply to non-canon characters.

No they don't. There was an entire thread where we concluded that lol. You made it.

 

[Antvasima]

I don't remember that, and strongly disagree with the conclusion that alternative timeline characters should freely be created even if they only have extremely few appearances to scale from. If anything, our standards for them should be even stricter, which is what our rules seem to state.

 

[The_Impress]

Our rules regarding alternative timeline Marvel and DC Comics characters

Hello. I would appreciate some help here I do not think that we should create pages for obscure Marvel and DC Comics characters from alternate timelines, as their statistics tend to be extremely inconsistent, and there are tens of thousands of these insignificant characters around, so I do not...

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The wiki strongly disagreed with your disagreement.

I know what the rules state, I WROTE THEM.

Restore the page, we've gone through this song and dance before.

 

[Antvasima]

As far as I can see, that thread was about a story about a character prominently starring in their own comic book story as the main protagonist, which is not the case for Doctor Octopus, who only appeared in two issues as a side-character, so our standard rules should apply.

I extremely strongly disagree with allowing our wiki to be spammed with hundreds of extremely briefly appearing irrelevant side-characters that are not even from any official Marvel Comics continuity, so if necessary I will bring up this issue for consideration by our administrators, super moderators, and bureaucrats again.

 

[The_Impress]

Bring it up to consideration, sure. I'll re-explain it again.

 

[Antvasima]

Regardless, our rules as currently written only allows exceptions for out of continuity characters that have starred as the main protagonists in prominent storylines, so that does not apply for a side character with only two appearances.

@SamanPatou

 

[The_Impress]

How is a character that appears for half the entire comic run become "minor"?? He is literally the core part of the plot, the series, the verse and you're applying a standard meant to get rid of single panel guys.

This is exactly why the notability criteria is getting revised to remove, because you guys are so damn overzealous in characters' deletions for shit that doesn't matter and doesn't even apply for, that you actually disrepute the whole system across the supporterbase to the point it's now getting voted off so it's not even gonna stop the characters it's SUPPOSED to stop.

You're inventing standards and definitions not accepted here. Make the thread. I want to see how you can frame this as legitimate.

 

[Antvasima]

Look, the point is that Marvel Comics is extremely inconsistent enough as it is even for very prominent characters who go up and down in their tiers like yoyos, so we need coherent relatively extensive patterns in order to be able to at least somewhat appropriately determine statistics.

Marvel Comics also has tens of thousands of irrelevant side-characters that only appeared very briefly, and are nearly impossible to make a context for, and that would completely spam our wiki, and risk to create even further chaos in our scaling chains due to all of the inconsistencies, if we open the floodgates for them.

And much of this unreliability is worsened rather than lessened for alternative timelines with their own statistics scaling systems that greatly differ from the main official continuity and even less editorial scrutiny due to their obscurity and unofficial natures.

Also, regardless how you put it, an antagonist that only appears for two issues in an alternative unofficial continuity comic book is the very definition of irrelevant comparatively speaking.

I would greatly appreciate if you stop causing problems here, especially as you are not a staff member. Thank you.

 

[The_Impress]

He SCALES TO ONE CHARACTER, WHO SCALES TO NOBODY BUT HIS OWN FEATS. Inconsistency is a moot point, name one character whose scaling will fluctuate if he gets buffed.

Also I would appreciate if you would stop warning me out the blue for wanting to get a randomly deleted page reinstated. Wow. Didn't expect that. Why does it matter if I'm a staff or not for this purpose?

The rule never got tested for your horrendously short-sighted definition of "minor", so no, "irrelevant" isn't a comparative, it is with respect to Spider-Man Reign, and he is a major part of Spider-Man: Reign.

 

[Antvasima]

I didn't give you a warning. I made a polite request. Please stop agitating.

Also, I have responsibilities for the wellbeing of the structure of our wiki as a whole, and opening the floodgates for tens of thousands of similarly obscure and irrelevant side-characters with almost no appearances via a very bad precedent seems extremely harmful for said longterm wellbeing. I am not doing this irrationally or randomly. I genuinely believe that this is very bad for our wiki.

 

[The_Impress]

...Your polite request is "Shut the **** up bluename"? Doesn't seem like a valid request.

I believe this is needlessly biased policy against Marvel-related properties that isn't followed for ANY OTHER VERSE ON THE WIKI. Again, if there is a general wiki policy like this, I'd be fine, there isn't, so this is full-on bias here.

There is no floodgate, this is an invented problem that isn't ever gonna be a problem. They don't scale to Prime Marvel, so it's an independent verse. It isn't subject to Marvel rules. The point of Marvel rules is to account for PRIME MARVEL SCALING issues and inflation. MCU uses more mainline Marvel Comics scaling than Spider-Man: Reign. It's not getting retrospectively scaled, it's not using Marvel calcs, it's not using ANYTHING. WHY is it getting penalized? Because Marvel published it? Marvel published

So this is just prime example of overzealous policing off of non-existent policy points

 

[Antvasima]

No, it was a plea for you to try to consider the greater good of our community and set aside more limited personal self-interest, while reminding you that wiki policy issues are not your call to make, but maybe I should have avoided writing the second part.

Regardless, you are twisting what I said into a distortion for the sake of agitation, and you have also recurrently agitated in the past, which is obviously not good behaviour.

Also, as far as I understand our rules in the manner they are currently written, we do have general policy points about a minimum of 20 appearances for Marvel Comics characters in general, and about that alternative continuity characters need to have prominently been the main characters in their own comicbooks.

Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics

There are several massive problems with using power-scaling for these two prominent franchises that have shared hundreds of different authors over several decades. Said writers naturally tend to have highly differing opinions and interpretations, which is reflected in their stories. Quite often...

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[Mr. Bambu]

If the rules are in contention it should be handled in a thread of it's own, not like this. This thread is meant to be kept relatively clean so that new requests can be handled. Thanks.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed. I will try to remember and get the energy to create a staff forum thread later then. I am very tired right now.